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[hardware, megatron, vllm] fix: restore Ascend MXFP8 training and rollout weight refit - #8511
Restore Ascend MXFP8 support in the unified low-precision architecture. Add a trainer-side ModelSlim weight exporter, pass native quantization through to vLLM, and restore and reapply Ascend weight layouts during refit. Add CPU regression tests for quantization dispatch, packed experts, native engine arguments, and layout handling.
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Added support for serving Ascend ModelSlim MXFP8-quantized models, including automatic detection when applicable.
Ascend quantization settings can be configured for rollout, and MXFP8 models are recognized and prepared during loading.
Supported weights, including packed expert weights, are converted with their associated scales.
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Unquantized weights remain unchanged, and unsupported quantization types are rejected.
MXFP8 weights are restored and reprocessed around model loading to maintain the expected format.
The changes add an Ascend MXFP8 rollout quantizer, pass string-valued quantization to vLLM, and add MXFP8 detection and weight reload hooks. CPU tests cover quantizer dispatch, output tensors, engine arguments, model detection, and reload order.
Changes: Ascend MXFP8 rollout
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Quantizer implementation and dispatch verl/utils/qat/ascend.py, verl/utils/qat/compressed_tensors.py, tests/utils/test_ascend_mxfp8_on_cpu.py
The dispatcher selects AscendMxfp8WeightQuantizer for Ascend configurations. The quantizer validates weight metadata, expands packed experts, quantizes eligible 2D high-precision weights, and yields other tensors unchanged. Tests cover dispatch, quantization outputs, packed experts, and rejection of W8A8_DYNAMIC.
String-valued quantization is passed to vLLM as a native engine argument and does not produce a Hugging Face override. Structured configurations continue through the existing override path. The server logs the effective quantization configuration type.
MXFP8 detection and weight reload verl/utils/vllm/vllm_quant_utils.py, tests/utils/test_ascend_mxfp8_on_cpu.py
Quantized-model detection recognizes Ascend ModelSlim configurations with W8A8_MXFP8. Model preparation restores eligible MXFP8 weights before loading, then reapplies weight processing afterward. Tests check detection and restore-then-process ordering.
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sequenceDiagram
participant Dispatcher as dispatch_rollout_weight_quantizer
participant Quantizer as AscendMxfp8WeightQuantizer
participant TorchNpu as torch_npu.npu_dynamic_mx_quant
Dispatcher->>Quantizer: select quantizer from model path
Quantizer->>TorchNpu: quantize eligible weights
TorchNpu-->>Quantizer: return quantized weights and scales
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Some ModelSlim rollouts can fail during initialization or refit because descriptor precedence and remote-path handling are inconsistent. These correctness risks should be fixed before merging.
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set -eu
printf'%s\n''--- Megatron rollout export ---'
nl -ba verl/workers/engine/megatron/transformer_impl.py | sed -n '1028,1064p'printf'%s\n''--- vLLM quantized refit loader ---'
nl -ba verl/utils/vllm/vllm_quant_utils.py | sed -n '230,345p'
nl -ba verl/workers/rollout/vllm_rollout/utils.py | sed -n '380,412p'
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nl -ba verl/utils/vllm/vllm_quant_utils.py | sed -n '315,380p'
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Select the Ascend exporter for auto-detected ModelSlim models.
If a model has quant_model_description.json but no HF quantization_config, vLLM-Ascend can select Ascend quantization without rollout.quantization="ascend". This dispatcher instead returns no exporter, so refit sends unconverted weights while the rollout expects the MXFP8 weights and scales emitted by AscendMxfp8WeightQuantizer. Detect the descriptor on this path, or require the explicit setting before starting the rollout. Confirm that the deployed vLLM-Ascend version retains descriptor-based auto-detection.
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Review comment at @verl/utils/qat/compressed_tensors.py around lines 793 - 795:
Update the exporter selection in the `rollout_quantization` dispatch so
auto-detected ModelSlim models with `quant_model_description.json` and no HF
`quantization_config` use the Ascend exporter and its
`AscendMxfp8WeightQuantizer` conversion. Before relying on descriptor-based
detection, confirm the deployed vLLM-Ascend version still supports it; otherwise
require explicit Ascend quantization before rollout starts.
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Refit leaves vLLM-Ascend 0.18 MXFP8 weights in the transformed layout.
225-243: Major · Data Integrity & Integration · Heavy lift
Refit leaves vLLM-Ascend 0.18 MXFP8 weights in the transformed layout.
The trainer exporter emits each MXFP8 weight and its scale in the pre-transform layout. The vLLM-Ascend 0.18 linear and MoE schemes transform loaded weights after loading. The refit hooks run only on modules that carry _mxfp8_transformed or _mxfp8_original_shapes. vLLM-Ascend 0.18 sets neither marker and has no restore_weights_for_rl_loading. Both hooks therefore skip these modules.
Each refit bucket then loads trainer-layout tensors into parameters that already hold the transformed layout. The loader can raise a shape error. When the dimensions match, it can place transposed data without an error.
The linear and MoE paths share this root cause. The correction must cover both paths in one boundary. Before the first bucket, undo the v0.18 transform for linear and MoE modules. After the last bucket, call the native v0.18 processing method. Each inverse must match the exact reshape and transpose of its scheme. The marker-based path does not apply to v0.18 and must remain for newer versions.
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Review comment at @verl/utils/vllm/vllm_quant_utils.py around lines 225 - 243:
Update restore_mxfp8_weights_for_loading and
apply_mxfp8_transformation_after_loading so the refit boundary also handles
vLLM-Ascend 0.18 linear and MoE schemes: before the first refit bucket, restore
trainer-layout weights using the exact inverse of each scheme’s reshape and
transpose; after the last bucket, invoke that version’s native processing
method. Establish the supported v0.18 scheme methods before implementing this
path, and preserve the existing marker-based behavior for newer versions.
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Major · Resolve remote model descriptions before opening them. · ascend.py:50
verl/utils/qat/ascend.py:50 Major · Stability & Availability · Quick win
Resolve remote model descriptions before opening them.
copy_to_local leaves a Hugging Face model ID unchanged when use_shm is false. The detector can find its remote descriptor, but this open then raises FileNotFoundError. Resolve the descriptor through the same model-file lookup used by detection. (raw.githubusercontent.com)
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Update the descriptor-opening flow after copy_to_local so it resolves
quant_model_description.json through the same model-file lookup used by
detection before opening it; preserve local-path handling and support remote
model IDs when use_shm is false.
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- Line 804: Update the exporter selection around detect_ascend_modelslim to
honor an explicit engine_kwargs.vllm.quantization setting: use the exporter
matching the selected vLLM quantization, or reject a conflict with the Ascend
descriptor before refit. Ensure the exporter and vLLM loader use compatible
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Honor explicit vLLM engine quantization.
If engine_kwargs.vllm.quantization selects another method, such as fp8, vLLM retains that method even when the descriptor indicates Ascend. This branch nevertheless selects the Ascend exporter, so refit sends MXFP8 weights and scales to a different loader. Respect the engine argument or reject conflicting settings. (raw.githubusercontent.com)
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Update the exporter selection around detect_ascend_modelslim to honor an
explicit engine_kwargs.vllm.quantization setting: use the exporter matching the
selected vLLM quantization, or reject a conflict with the Ascend descriptor
before refit. Ensure the exporter and vLLM loader use compatible weight formats.
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Major · Use the ModelSlim descriptor for trainer-side exporter selection. · compressed_tensors.py:793-806
verl/utils/qat/compressed_tensors.py:793-806 Major · Data Integrity & Integration · Quick win
Use the ModelSlim descriptor for trainer-side exporter selection.
When quant_model_description.json exists without an explicit engine quantization method, vLLM-Ascend selects Ascend ModelSlim. This condition suppresses the same detection whenever a native HF configuration exists. The trainer then sends native-format weights, while the quantized refit path calls the Ascend engine's model.load_weights() directly. Remove this guard so the exporter and engine use the same layout.
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Review comment at @verl/utils/qat/compressed_tensors.py around lines 793 - 806:
Update the Ascend ModelSlim detection condition in the rollout quantization
selection flow so a native HF configuration does not suppress detection when the
ModelSlim descriptor is present. Remove the native-configuration guard while
preserving the other detection conditions, ensuring trainer-side exporter
selection matches the Ascend engine’s expected weight layout.
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@kyle-zhangchi Do you have any experiment result on MXFP8? How is the train-rollout mismatch bf16 vs mxfp8 in ascend?
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What does this PR do?
Restore Ascend MXFP8 support in the unified low-precision architecture. Add a trainer-side ModelSlim weight exporter, pass native quantization through to vLLM, and restore and reapply Ascend weight layouts during refit. Add CPU regression tests for quantization dispatch, packed experts, native engine arguments, and layout handling.
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