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After an MXFP8 weight sync, an inference kernel can keep reading stale derived weights or scales even when the incoming tensors have the expected shapes and dtypes. This PR probes one eligible dense layer and one expert after each sync, comparing the engine's actual kernel output with a reference computed from the newly loaded canonical weights. It also detects unwritten staged expert scales and rejects unsupported SGLang sync configurations.
This is the standalone self-check split of the closed#8327, prepared from fork PR #7. It targets current main directly and does not depend on the sentinel in #8495 or the separate layer audit. The original fork branch is preserved.
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Test
On this standalone branch, based on main 2bcc98a9b64bdb3af5b88ac870ba0709ed709aef:
98 CPU tests passed using PyTorch 2.9.1 and Python 3.12. Historical [rollout, vllm, sglang, trainer] feat: refit fixes and runtime checks for MXFP8 rollouts #8327 self-check/SGLang tests were copied outside the checkout, pointed at this branch, and separated from the audit-only cases. Only test paths and stubs for main's updated NVFP4/BF16 MoE interfaces were adapted; the self-check assertions were retained. Existing main tests cover BF16 MoE storage restoration, FP8 restaging and parameter/buffer updates.
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Commands run (the external test directory is a local validation artifact, not committed CI coverage):
Historical hardware evidence, not rerun on this rebased branch:fork PR #7 records 1×B200 runs with vLLM 0.29.0, SGLang 0.5.20, Transformer Engine 2.16.1 and Megatron-Core 0.19.2. Two GRPO steps on a tiny Qwen3-MoE passed after every sync with dense relative error 0.026 and expert error 0.047–0.048. BF16 training with MXFP8 rollout also passed. Deliberately corrupting expert scales failed the first sync; changing weights across training steps kept the errors within tolerance. The same source records earlier 4×B200 Qwen3-30B-A3B validation.
Current main pins vLLM 0.32.0. Its routed-expert entry points and MXFP8 method were inspected, but these CPU tests use engine stand-ins and do not establish GPU/kernel compatibility with that version. Fresh B200 validation remains outstanding.
API and Usage Example
# Default is warn: log a failed probe and continue.export VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK=raise
export VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK_TOL=0.25
# Optional: override the expert threshold; otherwise it inherits the dense threshold.export VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK_MOE_TOL=0.25
# VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK=0 disables the checks.
The check samples the smallest eligible dense layer and one expert of the smallest MXFP8 MoE layer. Unsupported routing/parallel configurations warn and skip the expert probe. It runs eagerly and does not verify CUDA graph replay or every model layer.
Design & Code Changes
Shared dequantized reference, finite-value checks and relative-error probes in verl/utils/mxfp8_refit_check.py; vLLM and SGLang adapters capture canonical tensors before kernel layout processing and run the probes afterward.
SGLang fills staged expert scales with 0xFF and reports any unwritten entries. It rejects re-laid-out BF16 experts and delta sync with a quantized rollout before writing incompatible payloads.
Documents the probe, controls and limitations in docs/low_precision/mxfp8.md.
AI assistance was used for the original implementation and for this standalone port, conflict resolution and CPU validation with Codex. The original human review and hardware validation are recorded in fork PR #7; the main-port adjustments and outstanding GPU validation are identified above for review.
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Split the refit self-check from verl-project#8327 onto main without the sentinel or layer audit. Retain main’s existing BF16 MoE and NVFP4 handling; add sampled canonical-reference probes and SGLang sync guards.
Co-authored-by: OpenAI Codex <noreply@openai.com>
Signed-off-by: zhangrongjie.123 <zhangrongjie.123@bytedance.com>
Added optional MXFP8 checks after weight synchronization for SGLang and vLLM, comparing selected dense and MoE outputs with reference results. Checks can warn and continue, raise an error, or be disabled; tolerance settings are configurable.
Added warnings for missing MXFP8 scale data and situations where MoE checks are skipped.
Bug Fixes
Unsupported quantized delta-sync configurations and certain relaid BF16 MoE layouts are now rejected before weight synchronization.
Documentation
Updated the MXFP8 guide with check settings, limitations, and unsupported configurations.
Adds configurable MXFP8 post-sync checks for SGLang and vLLM. The checks compare selected dense and MoE kernel outputs with references from dequantized canonical weights. SGLang also reports unwritten expert scales and refuses specified quantized delta-sync and BF16 MoE layout configurations.
Adds environment-controlled failure reporting, dequantization, and linear and MoE expert probes. The documentation describes modes, tolerances, skip conditions, and limitations.
SGLang probes and sync guards verl/utils/sglang/sglang_mxfp8_refit_check.py, verl/utils/sglang/sglang_fp8_utils.py, verl/utils/sglang/sglang_quant_utils.py, verl/workers/rollout/sglang_rollout/sglang_rollout.py, docs/low_precision/mxfp8.md
Adds SGLang probes and sync-time checks for unwritten scales and BF16 MoE layouts. Delta sync now rejects configurations with a resolved quantization config.
vLLM probes and sync integration verl/utils/vllm/vllm_mxfp8_refit_check.py, verl/utils/vllm/vllm_quant_utils.py
Adds vLLM linear and MoE probes. Weight processing captures canonical references before layout restoration and checks the resulting layers.
Sequence Diagram(s)
sequenceDiagram
participant EngineSync as SGLang or vLLM sync
participant RefitCheck as MXFP8 refit check
participant MXFP8Kernel as MXFP8 layer kernel
EngineSync->>RefitCheck: Capture canonical weights and scales
EngineSync->>RefitCheck: Run check after weight processing
RefitCheck->>MXFP8Kernel: Apply deterministic BF16 inputs
MXFP8Kernel-->>RefitCheck: Return kernel output
RefitCheck->>RefitCheck: Compare with dequantized reference
Quantized hybrid replicas can fail to start despite using the bucketed update path, and a malformed check tolerance can stop weight sync. Resolve these failures before merging.
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The changed files stay within the stated standalone self-check scope. They add shared MXFP8 probes, vLLM and SGLang adapters, SGLang safety checks, integration points, and MXFP8 documentation. The PR …
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The title clearly and concisely describes the main change: adding post-sync MXFP8 self-checks for vLLM and SGLang. The scope and feature description match the changeset.
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The changed files stay within the stated standalone self-check scope. They add shared MXFP8 probes, vLLM and SGLang adapters, SGLang safety checks, integration points, and MXFP8 documentation. The PR excludes the closed issue's sentinel and layer-audit work, and the summary identifies no unrelated implementation.
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set -eu
printf'%s\n''--- vLLM post-sync caller ---'
nl -ba verl/workers/rollout/vllm_rollout/utils.py | sed -n '320,372p'printf'%s\n''--- vLLM quant utility context ---'
nl -ba verl/utils/vllm/vllm_quant_utils.py | sed -n '215,265p'printf'%s\n''--- SGLang loader registration and finalize context ---'
nl -ba verl/utils/sglang/sglang_quant_utils.py | sed -n '1,45p'
nl -ba verl/utils/sglang/sglang_quant_utils.py | sed -n '220,292p'printf'%s\n''--- MXFP8 documentation contract ---'
nl -ba docs/low_precision/mxfp8.md | sed -n '45,75p'
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set -eu
printf'%s\n''--- enclosing vLLM sync method ---'
nl -ba verl/workers/rollout/vllm_rollout/utils.py | sed -n '255,365p'printf'%s\n''--- vLLM method definitions and direct references ---'
rg -n -F --glob '*.py' -e 'def update_weights' -e 'def _update_weights' -e 'update_weights(' -e '_update_weights(' verl/workers/rollout/vllm_rollout verl | head -120
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Prevent malformed tolerance values from aborting weight sync.
float() runs before the probe exception handlers. A malformed tolerance can therefore escape the self-check and abort a healthy vLLM or SGLang refit, despite the documented warn behavior. Parse both settings through one fallback helper. Make the fallback lazy so a valid VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK_MOE_TOL does not evaluate an invalid linear tolerance.
Suggested fix
--- "a/verl/utils/mxfp8_refit_check.py"+++ "b/verl/utils/mxfp8_refit_check.py"@@ -113,12 +113,24 @@
logger.warning("%s The sync goes on; VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK=raise stops it here, =0 skips the check.", msg)
+def _read_tolerance(name: str, default: float | Callable[[], float]) -> float:+ value = os.environ.get(name)+ if value is None:+ return default() if callable(default) else default+ try:+ return float(value)+ except ValueError:+ fallback = default() if callable(default) else default+ logger.warning("Invalid %s=%r; using tolerance %.2f.", name, value, fallback)+ return fallback++
def refit_check_tolerance() -> float:
- return float(os.environ.get("VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK_TOL", str(_DEFAULT_TOL)))+ return _read_tolerance("VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK_TOL", _DEFAULT_TOL)
def refit_check_moe_tolerance() -> float:
- return float(os.environ.get("VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK_MOE_TOL", str(refit_check_tolerance())))+ return _read_tolerance("VERL_MXFP8_REFIT_CHECK_MOE_TOL", refit_check_tolerance)
def mxfp8_dequantize(qweight: torch.Tensor, scale_u8: torch.Tensor) -> torch.Tensor:
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Review comment at @verl/utils/mxfp8_refit_check.py around lines 116 - 121:
Update refit_check_tolerance and refit_check_moe_tolerance to use a shared
tolerance parser that falls back instead of raising on malformed environment
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#!/bin/bash# Check where delta_sharded is selected and whether hybrid replicas can use it.
rg -nP -C4 'delta_sharded' --type=py
rg -nP -C4 'wire_format\s*=\s*"delta_flush"|delta_flush' --type=py
Do not reject hybrid replicas that use the bucketed path.
The hybrid checkpoint manager forces its own backend to "naive", and the resulting update calls self.rollout.update_weights(...) without wire_format="delta_flush". The SGLang adapter still reads the original rollout configuration during construction, so a quantized hybrid replica with backend="delta_sharded" fails at initialization even though it would use the bucketed path.
Keep the rejection on the wire_format == "delta_flush" branch, or limit the constructor guard to standalone delta-sync workers.
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Adjust the constructor guard that calls refuse_delta_sync_if_quantized so it
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What does this PR do?
After an MXFP8 weight sync, an inference kernel can keep reading stale derived weights or scales even when the incoming tensors have the expected shapes and dtypes. This PR probes one eligible dense layer and one expert after each sync, comparing the engine's actual kernel output with a reference computed from the newly loaded canonical weights. It also detects unwritten staged expert scales and rejects unsupported SGLang sync configurations.
This is the standalone self-check split of the closed #8327, prepared from fork PR #7. It targets current
maindirectly and does not depend on the sentinel in #8495 or the separate layer audit. The original fork branch is preserved.Checklist Before Starting
[{modules}] {type}: {description}.Test
On this standalone branch, based on main
2bcc98a9b64bdb3af5b88ac870ba0709ed709aef:git diff --checkpassed.Commands run (the external test directory is a local validation artifact, not committed CI coverage):
Historical hardware evidence, not rerun on this rebased branch: fork PR #7 records 1×B200 runs with vLLM 0.29.0, SGLang 0.5.20, Transformer Engine 2.16.1 and Megatron-Core 0.19.2. Two GRPO steps on a tiny Qwen3-MoE passed after every sync with dense relative error 0.026 and expert error 0.047–0.048. BF16 training with MXFP8 rollout also passed. Deliberately corrupting expert scales failed the first sync; changing weights across training steps kept the errors within tolerance. The same source records earlier 4×B200 Qwen3-30B-A3B validation.
Current main pins vLLM 0.32.0. Its routed-expert entry points and MXFP8 method were inspected, but these CPU tests use engine stand-ins and do not establish GPU/kernel compatibility with that version. Fresh B200 validation remains outstanding.
API and Usage Example
The check samples the smallest eligible dense layer and one expert of the smallest MXFP8 MoE layer. Unsupported routing/parallel configurations warn and skip the expert probe. It runs eagerly and does not verify CUDA graph replay or every model layer.
Design & Code Changes
verl/utils/mxfp8_refit_check.py; vLLM and SGLang adapters capture canonical tensors before kernel layout processing and run the probes afterward.0xFFand reports any unwritten entries. It rejects re-laid-out BF16 experts and delta sync with a quantized rollout before writing incompatible payloads.docs/low_precision/mxfp8.md.AI assistance was used for the original implementation and for this standalone port, conflict resolution and CPU validation with Codex. The original human review and hardware validation are recorded in fork PR #7; the main-port adjustments and outstanding GPU validation are identified above for review.
Checklist Before Submitting
--all-fileswas not run.