Web conference notes, 2020.01.30 (Provider Services wg)

Web conference notes 2020.01.30 (Provider Services wg)

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Attendees

• Kegan Maher, City of Santa Monica
• JR Heard, Ride Report
• Neil Goldader, Ellis & Associates
• Michael Schnuerle, City of Louisville
• Jay Williams and Tom Santinelli, Bird
• Sean Roberts OMF
• Henri Bourdeau Blue Systems
• Pinky Parsons, Kate Wagoner Passport
• Mark Maxham Ellis & Associates
• Jonathan Internicola https://github.com/NYC-AIRlab NYC Taxi & Limousine Commission
• Michael Durling Ellis & Associates
• Jascha Franklin-Hodge Open Mobility Foundation
• Mike McDonald Portland Bureau of Transportation
• Matt Davis, Populus
• Andrew Scherkus, Roundtrip

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Agenda

Quick updates

• MDS maturity survey https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeYbsbR9NqAL2ctxid1xHgPasi9CdjMGkbghXe6PNSjz7UfwQ/viewform

• Add "moped" vehicle type https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/416

• Clarify no pagination on static provider endpoints /trips and /status_changes https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/424

• reserved now explicitly means taking possession https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/421

Discussion Items

• Docked Micromobility / Stops

  • https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/374
  • https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/427
  • https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/428

• Align provider and agency

  • https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/271
  • https://groups.google.com/a/groups.openmobilityfoundation.org/forum/#!topic/mds-city-services/PqqwcxNiPGk

Minutes

• 31 attendees on the call
• Thanks to Hunter
• Each meeting will need a notes taker
• call out to MDS survey
• Moped new vehicle type not considered a breaking change. Likely new propulsion and vehicle types will not be considered a breaking change.
• No pagination going forward on trips and status changes endpoints
• Provider reserved def means take into possession. Perhaps new event types are needed.
  • Consider https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/426
  • Agency has trip start and reserved states. Reserved means holding while waiting for possession. (Jump) Adam Kidder follow reserved def. of holding for possession. Jump right now creates a TripID in the reservation as a hopeful trip event. TripID doesnt get removed if the trip does not happen. Pinky (Passport) the reserved def between providers and cities is a issue due to conflicting uses.
  • More conversation around reserved https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/417
  • Dirk is planning a new PR to establish the reserved event type ambiguity
  • Kegan should create new event type called future-hold to get away from confusion
  • Let's clearly def the event type def between different APIs for now. Perhaps
  • For the likely required new event type(s), let's wait until 0.5.0 spec release
• https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/427
  • Dirk will update
  • including stops as optional end point is this breaking?
  • Charles (Jump) David (lyft) states including this in 0.4.1 would be difficult
  • Jascha asks can this be experimental in 0.4.1?
  • Need the end points def to be inline with GBFS
  • related to https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/428
• Kegan puts https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/428 out there asking for feedback or PR
  • Kegan will need to enum other parts of the API impacted by stops. Additional issues will come out of this.
• Kegan thx for the work on https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/430
• Mark and Antonio have been working on long running https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/271
  • https://groups.google.com/a/groups.openmobilityfoundation.org/forum/#!topic/mds-city-services/PqqwcxNiPGk
  • work on concensus recommendations found here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mjN-cgpya6Sci09t7wSpP41Hm-ok-fTa84qWWICA1Cc/edit?usp=sharing
  • likely meeting will be published the ML for next week
  • generally making provider canonical verses newer APIs