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[ops] fix: causal_conv1d over-counts dh0 when the backward tile is narrower than the conv window - #1265
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…rrower than the conv window
dh0 is split into cdiv(W, BT) slots and summed. With BT >= W that is one slot
and the result is exact; with BT < W the multi-slot path over-counts and the
gradient w.r.t. initial_state comes back 1.5x to 3.7x too large. The forward
stays bit-exact and nothing raises, so the error is silent.
BT is derived from the chunk length and the device's vector-core count, so the
threshold is hardware-dependent: on a 910B2C with 48 vector cores and W=4,
every state-carrying chunk of 96 tokens or fewer is affected.
Verified on Ascend 910B2C (CANN 9.1.1, torch 2.10.0, torch_npu 2.10.0.post2,
triton-ascend 3.2.2) for W in {2, 4, 8} across chunk lengths 16 to 384: every
previously-wrong case becomes exact and no previously-correct case changes.
fla-org/flash-linear-attention removed this split-and-sum in ByteDance-Seed#717 by moving dh0
into a dedicated kernel; that restructuring is in a different file under a
different licence, so the clamp here is the smallest change that makes the
shipped gradient correct and it disappears with the old dh0 path on a future
re-vendor. Every copy in this lineage -- MindSpeed-MM (both copies) and
flash-linear-attention-npu -- still has the bug; reported separately.
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- Line 640: Update the backward tile sizing around `BT` in the `initial_state`
path so the live set stays within the 65536-byte UB budget; enforce the
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The clamp keeps dh0 on its correct single-slot path by never tiling narrower
than the convolution window, but that only stays inside the BT=8/BD=32 UB budget
derived above while W <= 8 — the same range the budget itself was derived for.
Past that the branch would quietly exceed it, so raise instead.
Measured for W in {2, 4, 8}; nothing in tree uses a wider convolution.
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[P2] For W=4 and packed lengths [1,7] on 48 vector cores, widening BT from 1 to 4 lets mask_head_rows admit rows from the next sequence into dw, corrupting previously correct weight gradients. Include o_t < T_len in the head dy/y load masks and add a short-segment regression test.
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Fixed in b5490b82. Included o_t < T_len in mask_head_rows and guarded dy0_row loads by T_len as well to prevent admitting rows from subsequent sequences in packed short-segment mode. Added a short-segment regression test (lengths [1, 7], W=4) in tests/ops/test_npu_kernels.py. Thanks for the careful catch!
…ed execution When BT is clamped to at least next_power_of_2(W) to keep dh0 on a single-slot path, packed sequences shorter than BT (e.g. lengths [1, 7] with W=4, BT=4) could let mask_head_rows (o_t < i_w) admit rows from the next sequence into b_dw and dh0 dy0 loads. Include o_t < T_len in mask_head_rows and guard dy0_row loads by T_len, and add a short-segment regression test.
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initial_stategradient.The test currently checks only
weight.grad, so a regression in the separatedh0path can pass. The proposed concatenation matches the(2, D, W)shape ofinitial_state.grad.Suggested addition
expected_dw = w_0.grad + w_1.grad torch.testing.assert_close(weight.grad, expected_dw, rtol=1e-2, atol=1e-2) + expected_dh0 = torch.cat((init_0.grad, init_1.grad), dim=0) + torch.testing.assert_close(initial_state.grad, expected_dh0, rtol=1e-2, atol=1e-2)🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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What does this PR do?
causal_conv1d_bwd_implsplitsdh0into one slot percdiv(W, BT)and sums them. WithBT >= Wthat is a single slot and the result is exact; with
BT < Wthe multi-slot path over-counts, so thegradient with respect to
initial_statecomes back 1.4x to 3.8x too large.The forward stays bit-exact and nothing raises, so this is a silent wrong gradient.
BTis derivedfrom the chunk length and the device's vector-core count, so the threshold is hardware-dependent: on a
910B2C with 48 vector cores and
W = 4, every state-carrying chunk of 96 tokens or fewer is affected,and the same code is correct on a device with a different core count.
Today no in-tree caller reaches it — the adapter does not forward
initial_state— so this is a latentfix rather than a live one. It is worth making now precisely because the failure is silent: whoever
first carries convolution state across calls (prefix reuse, chunked or streaming paths) would get no
signal at all.
Checklist Before Starting
[ops, docs, ci] fix: support Ascend 910B4-1 GDR training #966, [ops, ci] fix: mask padded GDR dot lanes on Ascend #970, [dist] feat: add lossless headwise GDN context parallelism #1087 (same vendored
_ascend/tritonkernels).[{modules}] {type}: {description}:[ops] fix: causal_conv1d over-counts dh0 when the backward tile is narrower than the conv windowTest
Ascend 910B2C (48 vector cores), CANN 9.1.1, torch 2.10.0, torch_npu 2.10.0.post2, triton-ascend
3.2.2,
D = 2048, bf16, activationsilu.A sequence is run two ways: whole, and split into head + tail with the head's
final_statehanded tothe tail as
initial_state. The loss touches tail outputs only, so the head can receive gradientalong exactly one route,
final_state -> dh0. The two runs must agree; the table reportschunked/whole at the
W-1positions that carry it, where1.0is correct.Sweeping
Win {2, 4, 8} against tail lengths 16–384, 24 cases:The
BT < Wpredicate is not merely correlated with the failures, it is exactly them, and theboundary moves with
W(tail 64 / 128 / 256 forW= 2 / 4 / 8) — which is what identifies themulti-slot path as the cause rather than any fixed chunk length. Ratios run 1.42 to 3.82.
With the fix, all 24 cases are exact (
BT < W: 0 of 14 wrong) and no previously-correct case changes.The forward output is bit-identical to the one-shot result in every case, before and after.
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No API change.
Design & Code Changes
veomni/ops/kernels/gated_delta_rule/_ascend/triton/convolution.py, in the branch that runs wheninitial_stateis given:BT = min(8, triton.next_power_of_2(triton.cdiv(max(16, B * T), NUM_CORES))) + BT = max(BT, triton.next_power_of_2(W))Never tiling narrower than the convolution window keeps
cdiv(W, BT) == 1and the single-slot paththat is already correct.
BTstays at or below 8, which is the budget the surrounding comment alreadyvalidates for
W <= 8and all dtypes. The cost is some parallelism on short chunks, which are shortby definition.
The alternative is to fix the multi-slot accumulation itself, which would keep the parallelism but
needs someone who knows the kernel's intent for those slots; the clamp is the conservative repair.
Upstream context: fla-org/flash-linear-attention removed this split-and-sum in fla-org/flash-linear-attention#717
(2026-01-19),
restructuring
dh0into a dedicated kernel and adding gradient tests. That is a different file undera different licence, so it is not something this vendored copy can take directly, and every repository
in this file's own lineage still carries the pattern — re-vendoring would not fix it.
Checklist Before Submitting
ruff check,ruff format)tasks/training scripts moved or renamedinitial_statefor a test to exercise. Glad toadd one against the kernel directly if you would rather the repository carry it.
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