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Adds an MXFP4 mode to MiniMax-M3's fused FlyDSL norm / RoPE / KV insert on ROCm (gfx950). The same launch that writes NVFP4 pages can write K, V and index-K as MXFP4 pages: E2M1 data with one E8M0 scale per 32 dims and no global scale. That takes 68 B per token and head, against NVFP4's 72.

Stacked on #63232 (this PR targets its branch) and #64358 (the mxfp4 KV dtype; its commit is the first one here). Review the last commit.

Changes

  • norm_rope_nvfp4_insert/kernel.py: compile_norm_rope_insert(..., mx=True) swaps the scale step and the scale addresses. Norm, RoPE, the E2M1 data layout, V's octet runs and the index-q output are unchanged.
    • The scale is 2^ceil(log2(amax / 6)) from the fp32 quotient's exponent bits, clamped at 2^-126, and 2^0 for an all-zero group. It reduces over 8 lanes (32 dims) instead of 4.
    • Elements are scaled by the exact power of two, then converted with the RNE cvt_scalef32_pk_fp4_f32 the NVFP4 path already uses.
    • Scale layout: K and index-K [token][4], V [group][token]; per head and page, 8192 B of data plus 512 B of scales.
  • host.py: mxfp4= keyword. The slot width comes from mxfp4_kv_cache_full_dim / nvfp4_kv_cache_full_dim, and k_scale / v_scale are ignored in MXFP4 mode.
  • The NVFP4 path compiles to the same code as before (mx=False).

The readers (sparse decode / prefill and the index kernels on scaled MFMA) and the backend's customize_spec follow in later PRs. Nothing calls mxfp4=True yet.

Validation

tests/kernels/attention/test_minimax_m3_norm_rope_nvfp4_insert.py runs on MI355X: 45 passed. That's the existing 31 NVFP4 cases, plus the MXFP4 cases for the two-kernel comparison, the all-padding batch and graph replay. Every output byte is compared, stale page bytes included. The cases cover a single decode token, octet- and page-crossing runs, DSpark decode rows, unaligned prefill chunks and 4K-token prefill, at TP4 and TP1 head counts.

The reference (minimax_m3_nvfp4_ref.py) gains an MXFP4 quantizer written with torch.frexp, independent of the kernel's bit arithmetic. On CPU it matches a brute-force OCP MXFP4 quantizer on random data at three magnitudes, exact ties, all-zero groups and the 2^-126 clamp.

Accuracy of MXFP4 KV for M3.1

The same values were emulated by rounding K, V and index-K to MXFP4 before the FP8 KV insert. Against the NVFP4-KV baseline (Quark MXFP4 experts, seed 42, paired exact McNemar): GSM8K 94.31% vs 94.31% (p = 1.0), GPQA-Diamond 83.33% vs 80.30% (p = 0.39), RULER NIAH multikey-2 32k 100% vs 100% (p = 1.0).


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zyongye and others added 5 commits October 27, 2026 06:40
… ROCm

Squash of the MiniMax-M3.1 serving branch, rebased on 5d35ce3.

NVIDIA:
- Route NVFP4 routed experts in MXFP8 checkpoints to the CT NVFP4 MoE
- NVFP4 KV cache on the MSA sparse attention path, served only by the
  CUTLASS Q8KV4 kernels (E4M3 query) on SM100/SM103/SM107
- NVFP4 index-K cache via the MSA Q8KV4/Q8KV8 indexers; opt-in decode
  context parallelism for the NVFP4 indexer at TP4
- Vendor fmha_sm100 from vllm-project/MSA dev 25c1447
- NVFP4 MSA decode past 512 sequences: Q8KV4 limits, bounded indexer and
  plan memory
- Decode metadata before the forward: 13 ops -> 2; in-place indexer I/O,
  no counter reset, PDL chain for the NVFP4 sparse decode
- DeepGEMM NVFP4 MegaMoE on the unified DeepGemmMegaMoEExperts layer;
  per-token FC1 input scales outside MegaMoE; split staging rows over
  programs
- Fuse small-batch MoE finalize into the all-reduce + Gemma norm + MXFP8
  quant
- QKV+indexer MXFP8 GEMM with fused epilogue; SM100 fused dense GEMM1
- Fused QK-norm/RoPE/KV insert: persistent row-group kernel
- Read aux hidden states after the deferred TP all-reduce
- FA4: pass no FP8 descale for a unit per-tensor scale
- Keep KV cache zeroing for mixed-precision UniformTypeKVCacheSpecs groups
- Clear per-token A4 metadata for NVFP4 W4A16 MoE kernels (Marlin only)
- Hand the Q8KV4 prefill a per-device split workspace
- Align image preprocessing: long-side resize with detail tiers, fp32
  patch embedding
- NIXL KV-head re-sharding for per-head-contiguous NVFP4 pages; BLHNC
  layout for NIXL transfer
- SimpleCPUOffload: 1 GiB HugeTLB host buffer + PreferCE batch copies

Spec decode:
- DSpark for MiniMax-M3.1: draft model, fixes and perf; default the draft
  to the checkpoint's dspark/ subfolder
- Fuse the draft's q/k norm + RoPE and its context-K/V write
- FLASHINFER_TS: prims_ts paged decode for non-causal draft blocks
- Store the draft tokens' K/V under torch.compile
- Markov sampling: one step helper, bias in the Gumbel kernel
- DFlash: pad the prepared inputs in wide blocks on every platform

ROCm:
- Re-quantize the NVFP4 routed experts to MXFP8 (or MXFP4) at load;
  NVFP4 -> MXFP4 re-quantization and fused shared experts through the
  online quantization API
- Mono decode (one FlyDSL launch per layer): native MXFP8 shared expert,
  top-16 sort/merge, aux hidden states, indexer CP
- NVFP4 KV + NVFP4 indexer on gfx950, decode indexer CP
- Tune small-M MXFP8 linears
- Sequence-parallel prefill under pure TP (opt-in), with MXFP4 MoE
  support; TBO/DBO under pure TP; warm the microbatch threads' hipBLASLt
  handles at init
- gfx942: avoid the load-time FP8 MoE quant crash; fall back from the
  fused QK-norm
- Keep the NVFP4 KV-insert helpers CUDA-only so the fused kernel builds
  on HIP

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Per-head MXFP4 KV: E2M1 data plus one E8M0 scale per 32 elements, stored
as uint8 (head_size/2 + head_size/32 bytes per head row, 68 for 128),
with its own KVQuantMode.MXFP4. Backends opt in through
supported_kv_cache_dtypes.

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Writes K, V and index-K as MXFP4 pages (E2M1 data, E8M0 scale per 32 dims,
no global scale; 68 B per token and head) from the same FlyDSL launch as
the NVFP4 insert. The data layout is NVFP4's; K and index-K scales are
[token][4], V scales [group][token]. The scale is 2^ceil(log2(amax / 6)),
2^0 for an all-zero group.

The bit-exact test runs both formats against a torch reference.

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@mergify mergify Bot added minimax rocm Related to AMD ROCm labels Oct 28, 2026
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15 is MXFP4_DS_MLA in vllm-project#64120 and 16 is MXFP4 in vllm-project#64198.

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… scale

FA4 reads a missing descale as 1.0, and it copies every expanded descale
view into a contiguous tensor: three copy kernels per layer and step. The
scales are fixed once the weights are loaded, so a per-tensor scale of 1.0
(an FP8 KV cache without calibrated scales) passes no descale. Calibrated
and per-head scales keep theirs; a (1, 1) expanded view gets canonical
strides, because FA4 treats it as contiguous and its layout check then
rejects the zero stride.

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The base branch was reset onto main (2abde62 plus one FA4 commit), so the
old vllm-project#63232 squash (a0ea941) is gone and the merge base fell back to
5d35ce3, turning every MiniMax-M3 file into an add/add conflict. Take the
base branch's tree and re-apply this PR's eight-file diff on top. Only
test_minimax_m3_norm_rope_nvfp4_insert.py conflicted, on an argument
reformat; keep main's explicit self.w[i] form and add mxfp4=.

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