[Bugfix] Route FP8 MoE + LoRA to Marlin (W8A16) so MoE-LoRA kernels get unquantized activations - #45265
[Bugfix] Route FP8 MoE + LoRA to Marlin (W8A16) so MoE-LoRA kernels get unquantized activations#45265waynehacking8 wants to merge 1 commit into
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…nquantized activations With an FP8 base MoE and LoRA enabled, the auto-selected w8a8 backends (e.g. Triton) quantize activations to fp8 before the experts run, so the Triton MoE-LoRA shrink kernel receives fp8 x and crashes on the mixed fp8 x bf16 tl.dot with 'AssertionError: Unsupported lhs dtype fp8e4nv' during the profiling forward. This is arch-independent. Route FP8 MoE + LoRA to the Marlin (W8A16) backend in select_fp8_moe_backend: activations stay in the original dtype and MarlinExperts already mixes in LoRAExpertsMixin, so the combination actually works instead of failing. Mirrors the existing LoRA special case in the unquantized oracle. Explicit --moe-backend / env overrides are still honored (and fail with a clear reason via is_supported_config). Validated end-to-end on RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell (SM 12.0) with Qwen/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-FP8 + enable_lora: before = engine-init crash, after = MARLIN selected and coherent generation. Fixes the remaining actionable part of vllm-project#45101 (complementary to the fail-fast in vllm-project#45130). Co-authored-by: Claude Signed-off-by: WEI CHENG CHIU <waynehacking8@gmail.com>
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Design note on scope (prompted by an offline review question — being explicit about what this PR is and isn't): This PR is an availability fix at the selection layer, not the root fix. The root problem is that the Triton MoE-LoRA shrink consumes whatever activations the base path produces, and with w8a8 backends that's fp8 — and the bf16 LoRA-adapter dot can't take it. The root fix is actually within reach in-tree: vLLM already has an fp8 MoE-LoRA kernel family ( Why I'd still merge this PR first:
I'm happy to do that follow-up (I have SM120 + H100-class hardware for validation) — but flagging it here first in case the LoRA owners prefer a different design or want to take it. |
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Closing in favor of #42120, which fixes this at the root: it threads the original unquantized hidden states into the MoE-LoRA shrink kernel (via I validated #42120 on RTX PRO 6000 (SM120) and confirmed it resolves the same |
Purpose
Fixes the remaining actionable part of #45101: make FP8 MoE +
--enable-loraactually work, instead of crashing (today) or failing fast (#45130).Root cause (matches the analysis in #45130 and my writeup on the issue): with an FP8 base MoE, the auto-selected w8a8 backends (e.g.
TritonExperts) quantize activations to fp8 before the experts run, so the Triton MoE-LoRA shrink kernel receives fp8xand crashes on the mixedfp8 × bf16tl.dot—AssertionError: Unsupported lhs dtype fp8e4nv(Triton permits fp8 dot operands only when both sides are fp8). Arch-independent.Fix: in
select_fp8_moe_backend, when LoRA is enabled, route to the Marlin (W8A16) backend — activations stay in the original dtype andMarlinExpertsalready mixes inLoRAExpertsMixin, so the combination works. This mirrors the existing LoRA special case in the unquantized oracle (oracle/unquantized.py). Explicit--moe-backend/ env overrides are still honored and fail with a clear reason viais_supported_configif incompatible.Why this is not duplicating an existing PR
45101,fp8 moe lora marlin— no other PR addresses backend selection for FP8+LoRA.Test Plan
tests/kernels/moe/test_fp8_backend_selection.py(block-fp8 and per-tensor fp8 schemes → MARLIN whenis_lora_enabled).Qwen/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-FP8(block-fp8 [128,128], E=256),enable_lora=True, max_lora_rank=64.Test Result
pytest tests/kernels/moe/test_fp8_backend_selection.py→ 2 passedpre-commit(incl.mypy-3.12 --hook-stage manual) → passed on changed filesUsing TRITON Fp8 MoE backend→ profiling forward crashes:AssertionError: Unsupported lhs dtype fp8e4nv→Engine core initialization failed(exact crash from [Bug]: FP8 MoE on SM120 (RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell) crashes in Triton fused_moe: AssertionError "Unsupported lhs dtype fp8e4nv"; VLLM_MOE_FORCE_MARLIN=1 not honored #45101)LoRA is enabled with an FP8 MoE: selecting the MARLIN (W8A16) backend …→ engine initializes, coherent generation:The capital of France is → ' Paris, a city renowned for its iconic landmarks such as the Eiffel Tower,'AI assistance disclosure
AI assistance (Claude Code) was used for analysis and drafting; I reviewed every changed line, ran the tests above, and validated end-to-end on real SM120 hardware.
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