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[MLA][nvfp4] Per-layer outer-scale calibration + fp8-RoPE KV-cell for the nvfp4 MLA KV cache - #95

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PR — Outer-scale calibration + fp8-RoPE KV-cell for the nvfp4 MLA KV cache

Targets: vllm side → local-inference-lab/vllm @ dev/fathomless-firmament (not yet merged
upstream); kernel side → lukealonso/b12x. Both stack on the nvfp4 MLA KV already present in
dev/fathomless-firmament.

Title

[MLA][nvfp4] Per-layer outer-scale calibration + fp8-RoPE KV-cell for the nvfp4 MLA KV cache

Summary

Two independent, opt-in improvements to the nvfp4 MLA KV cache:

A. Calibrated per-layer outer-scale — the writer previously discarded the scale tensor and
quantized the 512-D latent at outer-scale 1.0. Loading a calibrated per-layer s_l, writing
kv_c_normed / s_l, and restoring s_l in the reader recovers quantization loss at zero cost:
teacher-forced KLD 0.184 → 0.152.

B. fp8-RoPE KV-cell — store the 64-D decoupled RoPE key as fp8-e4m3 + per-token amax scale
instead of 128 B bf16, shrinking the record 432 → 368 B: KV pool +15.8% (>1.08M tokens),
enabling genuine 1,048,576 single-request context.
Runtime KV format only (no re-quantization);
the nvfp4 latent and the outer-scale (A) are untouched.

Validation

metric
A: outer-scale teacher-forced KLD 0.184 → 0.152 (wikitext-2048, 5 fresh boots)
B: fp8-rope, kernel QK NRMSE 0.02493 @ dist 8 vs 0.02526 @ dist 65,536 — no phase escalation
B: fp8-rope, 2048 KLD +0.0048 over off (within the 0.0075 boot-noise range)
B: fp8-rope, 64K retrieval OFF 15/15 = ON 15/15, zero fp8-only misses, needle to ~59K tokens
B: fp8-rope, 64K divergence KL(on‖off) 0.0493 nats — below the 0.056–0.061 self-noise floor

Shipped in verdictai/vllm-glm52-tr3-hybrid:v4-fp8rope.

The change

vllm (local-inference-lab/vllm @ dev/fathomless-firmament):

  • model_executor/layers/mla.py — (A) outer-scale loader + kv_c_normed / s_l (+103/−2); (B) the fp8-rope write hook (+42/−1).
  • v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py — (B) the 368 B record layout + scale_format (+149/−6).
  • v1/kv_cache_interface.py + model_executor/layers/attention/mla_attention.py — (B) the 368 B allocator ABI so page accounting / cache shape / writer / readers agree.

b12x (lukealonso/b12x):

  • attention/mla/{api,decode_math,kernel,prefill,prefill_mg}.py — (A) in-kernel s_l restore (scale_format==2); (B) the fp8-rope pack on write + dequant on read (~200 lines).
  • attention/mla/traits.py — (B) the gated 368 B GLM record variant.
  • a small torch custom op concat_and_cache_nvfp4_mla_fp8_rope (the fp8 rope writer).

Opt-in / no default change

  • (A) no scales file → s_l = 1.0 = prior behavior. The shipped per-layer scales are calibrated
    offline (per-layer max-abs of kv_c_normed ÷ 6·448) — nvfp4_ds_mla_outer_scale_v1 JSON,
    loaded via VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE.
  • (B) KV_FP8_ROPE unset/0 → byte-identical 432 B record; =1 selects 368 B. GLM path only
    (V3.2 + DSV4 records untouched).

Summary by CodeRabbit

  • New Features

    • Added support for NVFP4 MLA KV-cache formats, including optimized storage layouts.
    • Added optional FP8 RoPE KV-cache writing for supported model and backend configurations.
    • Added calibrated per-layer scaling for compatible NVFP4 MLA models.
    • Improved distributed decode support with capability checks and quantized query handling.
  • Bug Fixes

    • Prevented incorrect dtype conversions for NVFP4 KV caches.
    • Added validation and clearer errors for unsupported cache layouts, data types, and FP8 RoPE configurations.
    • Improved cache sizing and execution behavior across supported model variants.

Two opt-in improvements to the nvfp4 MLA KV cache:
- Calibrated per-layer outer-scale on the compressed latent (KLD 0.184 -> 0.152).
- fp8-RoPE KV-cell: store the decoupled RoPE key as fp8-e4m3 + amax scale, record
  432 -> 368 B (KV pool +15.8%, genuine 1M single-request). Validated at 64K:
  needle retrieval 15/15 = 15/15, KL(fp8||bf16) below the boot-noise floor.

Both gated (VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE / KV_FP8_ROPE); off = byte-identical.
Kernel side (b12x) is a companion PR to lukealonso/b12x.

Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Adds nvfp4_ds_mla cache support, optional FP8 RoPE cache writing, calibrated per-layer scaling, DCP capability checks, model-specific cache specifications, and scale-format propagation through B12X MLA kernels.

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NVFP4 MLA cache contracts

Layer / File(s) Summary
Cache dtype and specification contracts
vllm/model_executor/layers/attention/mla_attention.py, vllm/v1/kv_cache_interface.py
Preserves the NVFP4 cache dtype for B12X and derives model-specific page sizing, DCP replication, and cache metadata.
Per-layer scaling and FP8 RoPE gating
vllm/model_executor/layers/mla.py
Loads calibrated outer scales, gates the FP8 RoPE variant, validates inputs, and passes scaled latent KV to the cache writer.
B12X cache layout and writer integration
vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py
Adds NVFP4 record sizing, scale-format metadata, dynamic FP8 RoPE writer loading, and conditional cache-update routing.
Warmup, DCP execution, and projection helpers
vllm/model_executor/layers/attention/mla_attention.py, vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py
Threads latent scales and scale formats through warmup and decode/extend kernels, adds DCP capability checks, and implements validated chunked projection helpers.

Estimated code review effort: 4 (Complex) | ~60 minutes

Sequence Diagram(s)

sequenceDiagram
  participant MultiHeadLatentAttentionWrapper
  participant MLAAttention
  participant B12xMLASparseImpl
  participant FP8RopeWriter
  participant B12xKernels
  MultiHeadLatentAttentionWrapper->>MLAAttention: pass scaled cache latent KV
  MLAAttention->>B12xMLASparseImpl: invoke cache update or attention execution
  B12xMLASparseImpl->>FP8RopeWriter: write FP8 RoPE cache when enabled
  B12xMLASparseImpl->>B12xKernels: pass latent_scale and scale_format
  B12xKernels->>MLAAttention: return outputs and optional decode LSE
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vllm/model_executor/layers/mla.py (1)

211-230: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Silent no-op when VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE is set but backend/dtype don't match.

If an operator sets the scale file but the runtime backend isn't B12X_MLA_SPARSE or kv_cache_dtype isn't nvfp4_ds_mla, the calibration is silently skipped (_nvfp4_mla_outer_scale stays 1.0) with no log message, making misconfiguration hard to notice.

♻️ Proposed fix
         scale_file = os.getenv(_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_ENV, "").strip()
-        if scale_file and (
-            self.mla_attn.kv_cache_dtype == "nvfp4_ds_mla"
-            and self.mla_attn.attn_backend.get_name() == "B12X_MLA_SPARSE"
-        ):
+        scales_applicable = (
+            self.mla_attn.kv_cache_dtype == "nvfp4_ds_mla"
+            and self.mla_attn.attn_backend.get_name() == "B12X_MLA_SPARSE"
+        )
+        if scale_file and not scales_applicable:
+            logger.warning_once(
+                "%s is set but backend/dtype do not support NVFP4 MLA "
+                "outer-scale calibration; ignoring.",
+                _NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_ENV,
+            )
+        if scale_file and scales_applicable:
             match = _NVFP4_MLA_LAYER_RE.search(prefix)
🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
Verify each finding against current code. Fix only still-valid issues, skip the
rest with a brief reason, keep changes minimal, and validate.

In `@vllm/model_executor/layers/mla.py` around lines 211 - 230, Update the
initialization logic around _NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_ENV so that when a non-empty scale
file is configured but kv_cache_dtype is not "nvfp4_ds_mla" or
attn_backend.get_name() is not "B12X_MLA_SPARSE", emit a clear warning or
informational log describing the ignored calibration file. Preserve the existing
scale-loading behavior for matching configurations and the identity default
otherwise.
vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py (3)

287-296: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Duplicated record-size constants (368/432/656) across three sites.

The NVFP4/FP8-RoPE byte-layout constants are hardcoded independently in get_kv_cache_shape (368/432), __init__ (_kv_record_bytes: 368/432/656), and do_kv_cache_update's validation (368). If the layout ever changes, all three must be updated in lockstep or the allocator and the writer silently disagree on record size.

♻️ Suggested consolidation
+_FP8_DS_MLA_RECORD_BYTES = 656
+_NVFP4_STOCK_RECORD_BYTES = 432
+_NVFP4_FP8_ROPE_RECORD_BYTES = 368
+
 ...
         if cache_dtype_str == "nvfp4_ds_mla":
             return (
                 num_blocks,
                 block_size,
-                368 if _kv_fp8_rope_enabled() else 432,
+                _NVFP4_FP8_ROPE_RECORD_BYTES
+                if _kv_fp8_rope_enabled()
+                else _NVFP4_STOCK_RECORD_BYTES,
             )

Reuse the same constants in __init__'s _kv_record_bytes computation and in do_kv_cache_update's kv_u8.shape[-1] != 368 check.

Also applies to: 681-685, 858-862

🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
Verify each finding against current code. Fix only still-valid issues, skip the
rest with a brief reason, keep changes minimal, and validate.

In `@vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py` around lines 287 - 296,
Consolidate the NVFP4/FP8-RoPE record-size values into shared constants near the
existing layout logic, then reuse them in get_kv_cache_shape, __init__ when
computing _kv_record_bytes, and do_kv_cache_update when validating
kv_u8.shape[-1]. Preserve the existing 368, 432, and 656-byte selections and the
current validation behavior.

602-617: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Per-layer logger.warning/logger.info calls will spam logs across every attention layer.

B12xMLASparseImpl.__init__ runs once per MLA layer. The two logger.warning calls (lines 606-609, 611-615) and the logger.info call (lines 686-692) will each print once per layer — for models with dozens of layers this produces repetitive, hard-to-scan startup logs. mla_attention.py already uses logger.warning_once/logger.info_once for comparable per-layer messages.

♻️ Suggested fix
-            logger.warning(
+            logger.warning_once(
                 "KV_FP8_ROPE=1 ignored: compact MLA records are restricted to "
                 "model_type=glm_moe_dsa and its associated MTP draft"
             )
...
-            logger.warning(
+            logger.warning_once(
                 "KV_FP8_ROPE=1 has no effect for kv_cache_dtype=%s; the compact "
...
-        logger.info(
+        logger.info_once(
             "B12X GLM MLA KV format: KV_FP8_ROPE=%d kv_gmem_stride=%d "

Also applies to: 686-692

🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
Verify each finding against current code. Fix only still-valid issues, skip the
rest with a brief reason, keep changes minimal, and validate.

In `@vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py` around lines 602 - 617,
Replace the per-layer logger.warning and logger.info calls in
B12xMLASparseImpl.__init__ with the corresponding once-only logging APIs,
including the message around the _kv_fp8_rope setup at lines 606-615 and the
logger.info call around lines 686-692. Preserve each existing message and
arguments while ensuring each startup notice is emitted only once across all MLA
layers.

675-680: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Hardcoded scale_format literal 2 instead of a named constant/enum.

self._b12x_scale_format = 2 encodes ScaleFormat.NVFP4_E4M3 as a bare int per the comment; this value drives kernel record parsing at multiple call sites (scratch-plan caps, warmup, and all four decode/extend calls). If b12x renumbers or renames this enum, this silently breaks with no type/compile check.

Please confirm whether b12x.integration.sparse_mla_scratch (or a related module) exports a ScaleFormat enum that can be imported and referenced by name instead of the literal 2.

🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
Verify each finding against current code. Fix only still-valid issues, skip the
rest with a brief reason, keep changes minimal, and validate.

In `@vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py` around lines 675 - 680,
Replace the hardcoded value assigned in the b12x scale-format initialization
with the exported ScaleFormat.NVFP4_E4M3 enum or named constant from
b12x.integration.sparse_mla_scratch (or its related defining module), adding the
necessary import and preserving the existing None behavior for non-nvfp4_dsmla
caches.
🤖 Prompt for all review comments with AI agents
Verify each finding against current code. Fix only still-valid issues, skip the
rest with a brief reason, keep changes minimal, and validate.

Inline comments:
In `@vllm/model_executor/layers/attention/mla_attention.py`:
- Around line 1491-1566: Remove the duplicate definitions of _v_up_proj_bmm and
_v_up_proj_bmm_chunked from the later block, preserving the earlier
implementations in the class and leaving their call sites unchanged.
- Around line 1342-1388: Add the missing os import at module scope in
mla_attention.py so both os.environ.get calls in get_kv_cache_spec resolve
correctly; do not alter the existing environment-variable logic.

In `@vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py`:
- Around line 819-834: Update the do_kv_cache_update docstring with Google-style
Args entries for kv_c_normed, k_pe, kv_cache, slot_mapping, kv_cache_dtype, and
k_scale, and add a Raises section documenting the RuntimeError cases raised by
the method. Keep the existing behavior and summary unchanged; no Returns section
is needed because the method returns None.

---

Nitpick comments:
In `@vllm/model_executor/layers/mla.py`:
- Around line 211-230: Update the initialization logic around
_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_ENV so that when a non-empty scale file is configured but
kv_cache_dtype is not "nvfp4_ds_mla" or attn_backend.get_name() is not
"B12X_MLA_SPARSE", emit a clear warning or informational log describing the
ignored calibration file. Preserve the existing scale-loading behavior for
matching configurations and the identity default otherwise.

In `@vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py`:
- Around line 287-296: Consolidate the NVFP4/FP8-RoPE record-size values into
shared constants near the existing layout logic, then reuse them in
get_kv_cache_shape, __init__ when computing _kv_record_bytes, and
do_kv_cache_update when validating kv_u8.shape[-1]. Preserve the existing 368,
432, and 656-byte selections and the current validation behavior.
- Around line 602-617: Replace the per-layer logger.warning and logger.info
calls in B12xMLASparseImpl.__init__ with the corresponding once-only logging
APIs, including the message around the _kv_fp8_rope setup at lines 606-615 and
the logger.info call around lines 686-692. Preserve each existing message and
arguments while ensuring each startup notice is emitted only once across all MLA
layers.
- Around line 675-680: Replace the hardcoded value assigned in the b12x
scale-format initialization with the exported ScaleFormat.NVFP4_E4M3 enum or
named constant from b12x.integration.sparse_mla_scratch (or its related defining
module), adding the necessary import and preserving the existing None behavior
for non-nvfp4_dsmla caches.
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Comment thread vllm/model_executor/layers/attention/mla_attention.py Outdated
Comment on lines +819 to +834
def do_kv_cache_update(
self,
kv_c_normed: torch.Tensor,
k_pe: torch.Tensor,
kv_cache: torch.Tensor,
slot_mapping: torch.Tensor,
kv_cache_dtype: str,
k_scale: torch.Tensor,
) -> None:
"""Write the post-RoPE key using the selected runtime cache format.

The disabled branch delegates to the shipped implementation unchanged,
including its stock 432-byte NVFP4 writer. The enabled branch calls a
separate operator so loading this overlay cannot replace or perturb the
stock operator used by KV_FP8_ROPE=0.
"""

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📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win

Docstring missing Args/Raises sections.

do_kv_cache_update takes 6 parameters and raises RuntimeError from 3 distinct sites, but the docstring documents neither. As per coding guidelines, "Use Google-style docstrings in Python code, with Args:/Returns:/Raises: sections instead of reStructuredText/Sphinx fields".

🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
Verify each finding against current code. Fix only still-valid issues, skip the
rest with a brief reason, keep changes minimal, and validate.

In `@vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/b12x_mla_sparse.py` around lines 819 - 834,
Update the do_kv_cache_update docstring with Google-style Args entries for
kv_c_normed, k_pe, kv_cache, slot_mapping, kv_cache_dtype, and k_scale, and add
a Raises section documenting the RuntimeError cases raised by the method. Keep
the existing behavior and summary unchanged; no Returns section is needed
because the method returns None.

Source: Coding guidelines

brandonmmusic-max and others added 2 commits July 14, 2026 23:26
…ile boot fix)

get_current_vllm_config() raises during KV-cache shape resolution / cudagraph
compilation in a worker before the config context is set. Wrap in try/except,
cache the resolved value, fall back to the explicit KV_FP8_ROPE request.

Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
…proj_bmm block

Both were merge artifacts: os.environ is used in get_kv_cache_spec (NameError
without the import), and _v_up_proj_bmm/_v_up_proj_bmm_chunked were duplicated.

Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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