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Cudagraph-captured TP8 A100 NVLink measurements show one-shot remains faster above the existing 256 KiB limit, with the crossover occurring above 448 KiB and below 464 KiB. Use the measured inclusive 448 KiB bound only on exact SM80 at world size 8, while preserving every other architecture and world-size policy. Keep the policy in constexpr helpers with compile-time architecture and boundary assertions, and expose the automatic path in the communicator benchmark so its runtime selection can be compared with forced one-shot and two-shot launches. Signed-off-by: haosdent <haosdent@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Claude Fable 5 <noreply@anthropic.com> Co-authored-by: OpenAI Codex <noreply@openai.com>
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Closing this draft on duplicate/value grounds rather than republishing its malformed trailer commit. Upstream vllm-project#44891 gives non-SM100 architectures (including SM80) a higher-priority TP8 push-allreduce path through 512 KiB, which intercepts this draft’s entire measured 256–448 KiB region on the target fully connected A100 topology. Revisit only with evidence for the fallback case where push AR is disabled or unavailable. |
Purpose
Tune the existing custom-allreduce one-shot/two-shot selection for the exact
TP=8 SM80 fully connected case. Cudagraph measurements on 8xA100 NVLink place
the crossover above the current 256 KiB generic threshold, so the current
policy switches to two-shot too early on this topology.
This PR changes only the algorithm-selection heuristic inside the existing
barrier-based custom all-reduce. It does not add a communicator or increase the
custom-allreduce payload cap.
Exact scope and nonduplication
Publication commit:
09d8eb1d74a5e2096675d5439142e3b171e5ccbe.Relative to
origin/main@dd11df04f3b7046c40f13e586ac38a3725bc3c03,the PR changes three files (
+71/-21):object;
ca_autoarm in the existing communicator benchmark.Relationship to existing open work:
This PR instead tunes the existing
CustomAllreducefallback. The payloadregions overlap, so the gains are not cumulative when push all-reduce accepts
a tensor. Before promotion or upstream submission, verify perf: add push-based allreduce for small tensor reductions vllm-project/vllm#44891's A100
support/dispatch; if it handles this exact configuration, this heuristic may
only benefit fallback cases and its standalone value should be reconsidered.
PR affects only automatic selection when no explicit one/two-stage override
is active; it does not solve or modify batch invariance.
these three distributed-runtime files.
Changed behavior
For the automatic custom-allreduce path, with the surrounding existing
fully-connected check still required:
The SM80 TP=8 bound is intentionally inclusive because one-shot measured 6.7%
faster at exactly 448 KiB.
448 KiB + 1and larger payloads select two-shot;the next measured tile, 464 KiB, was already 1.2% faster with two-shot. Forced
VLLM_CUSTOM_ALLREDUCE_ALGObehavior is unchanged.Measured evidence
Dense crossover sweep: 8xA100 NVLink, TP=8, BF16, hidden size 8192,
cudagraph-captured, 50 warmups and 1000 trials:
The raw sweep is stored locally as
benchmark/custom-ar-sm80-crossover-dense.json. A separate automatic-policysweep (
benchmark/custom-ar-sm80-crossover-auto.json, 20 warmups, 300 trials)covered both sides of the boundary. A broader sweep is in
benchmark/custom-ar-sm80-crossover.json.These are collective microbenchmarks. No TTFT, TPOT, ITL, model throughput, or
combined result with vllm-project#44891 is claimed.
Build and benchmark commands run
Targeted CUDA build:
Result: exit 0; both custom-allreduce CUDA objects compiled and
_C_stable_libtorch.abi3.solinked.Dense crossover:
Automatic-policy verification used the same environment and executable with:
Compile-time assertions cover SM80/non-SM80 and both sides of the special
inclusive boundary.
Changed-range pre-commit hooks pass.
Model evaluation status
Not run. Moving 256-448 KiB reductions from two-shot to one-shot changes
the BF16 reduction order, so a model-level output/evaluation comparison is
required before merge. No DeepSeek-V4 128k/256k server result is attributed to
this microbenchmark PR.
Risks and limitations
systems, other TP sizes, and other dtypes are unmeasured.
the surrounding fully-connected check.
remain exclusive; compile-time assertions guard
448 KiBand448 KiB + 1explicitly.automatic policy under batch invariance.
standalone numerical pytest or model eval yet.
Stack and review order
pr/custom-ar-sm80-crossover09d8eb1d74a5e2096675d5439142e3b171e5ccbeorigin/main@dd11df04f3b7046c40f13e586ac38a3725bc3c03PR
changes the same custom-AR policy surface
AI assistance and human ownership
AI assistance was used for research, implementation, benchmark analysis,
review, and drafting (Anthropic Claude and OpenAI Codex).
This body and the current code were prepared by code agents. @haosdent has not
yet attested to a line-by-line human review. This PR must remain a draft until
a human reviews every changed line, reviews or reruns the reported build and
measurements, understands the topology/reduction-order risks and overlap with
vllm-project#44891/vllm-project#50505, and explicitly takes responsibility for the contribution.