Content modifications

[robertsky]

Connect:
Added more details to Facebook section.
Reworded the news organisation part to be more friendly and to alert us for new articles.

Membership:
Added minor detail on the locker nametags.

[kaihendry]

Don't like the fact that a news organisation has to email HSG to publish an article. Extra bit of bureaucracy that could put people off. We can find out what people say about HSG using https://www.google.com/alerts

Also I feel we should encourage people to join a mailing list instead of Facebook. Since it's expensive / difficult to reach all members via the centralised closed Facebook platform.

[hyperair]

I think it should be made optional. Something like: "An email to [email protected] alerting us would be nice, but is not mandatory."

[valentine]

What @hyperair said. Also, Fair Use is not a licence, and it's likely that some news organisations (however loosely defined) cannot use images with a Creative Commons licence. It's only images, right?

[rolandturner]

I don't want to get into whether or not to make this specific change, but:

• Fair use rights are intrinsic, they are not related to permission.
  We don't need to mention them.
• The Creative Commons language proposed does not identify a specific
  license, and therefore does not make clear what is being granted.
  There's a tool on the CC website for making this decision and
  generating appropriate language. I'd suggest using it; and choosing
  the most permissive option, of course.
• News organisations don't have a blanket problem with CC licenses.
  The non-commercial and non-derivative constraints are likely to be a
  problem, but basic attribution has been normal news media practice
  for decades.
• Roland

On 04/06/2015 03:47 PM, Valentine C wrote:

What @hyperair https://github.com/hyperair said. Also, Fair Use is
not a licence, and it's likely that some news organisations (however
loosely defined) cannot use images with a Creative Commons licence.
It's only images, right?

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[robertsky]

@kaihendry: Your dislike for Facebook does not hide the fact that it is
there. What's considered expensive/difficult to reach to you might be cheap
and easy for the others and vice versa. I had considered your position
while editing the Facebook portion, hence 'an alternative". I have also
adjusted the request to alert hackerspace of articles to be less formal,
that of @hyperair's.

@valentine, @rolandturner: I was puzzled by the previous commit actually,
hence the edit. It was done in a rush, hence making it more muddled. I have
made further edits to remove Fair Use and Creative Commons and made
reference to a set of principles to guide journalists in evaluating what's
consider Fair Use. I have adjusted.

On 6 April 2015 at 15:59, Roland Turner [email protected] wrote:

I don't want to get into whether or not to make this specific change, but:

• Fair use rights are intrinsic, they are not related to permission.
  We don't need to mention them.
• The Creative Commons language proposed does not identify a specific
  license, and therefore does not make clear what is being granted.
  There's a tool on the CC website for making this decision and
  generating appropriate language. I'd suggest using it; and choosing
  the most permissive option, of course.
• News organisations don't have a blanket problem with CC licenses.
  The non-commercial and non-derivative constraints are likely to be a
  problem, but basic attribution has been normal news media practice
  for decades.
• Roland

On 04/06/2015 03:47 PM, Valentine C wrote:

What @hyperair https://github.com/hyperair said. Also, Fair Use is
not a licence, and it's likely that some news organisations (however
loosely defined) cannot use images with a Creative Commons licence.
It's only images, right?

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[robertsky]

Hello?! 7 months and pending. Any feedback? If not, I would like to have this merged in.

[valentine]

Think you need to rebase and cherry pick.

[robertsky]

@valentine opps. just spotted this. should have done this on a branch instead. anyway, have resolved the issues.