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26 changes: 24 additions & 2 deletions flashinfer/fused_moe/backends/cudnn_frost/README.md
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Expand Up @@ -918,7 +918,14 @@ MXFP4), each with its `_swap_ab` counterpart. Up to eight compute warps issue
warp-level `mma.sync` from TMA-filled shared memory: block-scaled
`kind::mxf8f6f4` for MXFP8 and MXFP8 × MXFP4 (E2M1 weights unpacked in
registers) and `kind::mxf4nvf4` for NVFP4, with the scale factors as register
operands. A scheduler warp runs the same grouped persistent scheduler as SM100.
operands. The MXFP8 × MXFP4 sources create their A and B TMA descriptors with
CUTLASS's default 128-byte L2 promotion: the packed E2M1 weight has 64-byte K
rows (128 values per fp8 K-tile), and without the hint every row is its own
DRAM request, which held the W4A8 kernels at ~0.85 TB/s on an RTX PRO 6000
(FC1 of 12 experts, 7168/3072, 16 tokens: 343 µs) against 1.19 TB/s and 253 µs
with it, level with the CuTe-DSL and CUTLASS mixed-input kernels. The BF16,
MXFP8 and NVFP4 SM120 sources still carry the DSL default (no promotion);
128-byte rows measure the same either way, 64-byte BF16 K tiles do not. A scheduler warp runs the same grouped persistent scheduler as SM100.
The templates address tokens and token scales by coordinate on one global TMA
descriptor each and store through STG, so they patch no tensormap: the
workspace is one 128-byte scheduler-counter slot. There is no CTA pair,
Expand All @@ -933,7 +940,11 @@ activation of the topology expands through its exact source fragments. Kernel
IDs start with `sm120_cudnn_frost_`, and catalog and shortlist records carry
`arch: sm_120a`.

All SM120 sources are exported from cuDNN Frontend `89f40871`. Each host
The BF16, MXFP8 and NVFP4 SM120 sources are exported from cuDNN Frontend
`89f40871`; the MXFP8 × MXFP4 sources from `9769e15b` (branch
`sm120-moe-tma-l2-promotion`, which adds the TMA L2 promotion above to every
SM120 template and sizes the packed E2M1 side of a mixed pair at its 64-byte
row in the SMEM footprint check, as `device.py` does here). Each host
zeroes its scheduler counter with a one-thread kernel before the PDL main
launch, as the SM100 MoE hosts do, so the exported TVM-FFI function needs no
caller-side reset. Like the SM107 sources, the schedulers take `G+1` explicit
Expand All @@ -955,6 +966,17 @@ through STG) in the normal orientation, for the tiles whose warp tile drains
whole 32-column quantization blocks. cuDNN Frost cannot store packed FP4 on
SM120, so NVFP4 plans always use the separate intermediate quantizer.

The SM120 MXFP8 × MXFP4 shortlists were re-measured after the promotion fix
(the ranking changed: the shipped tables, measured on the unpromoted kernels,
kept narrow tiles that had been fastest), cold in L2, through the complete
MoE pipeline with the other stage fixed to its autotuned winner: every legal
FC1 kernel (SwiGLU for the gated class, ReLU2 for the non-gated one, the other
activations taking their class's tiles) ranked by its stage time plus the
requantization launch it does or does not need, every FC2 kernel by its stage
time, uniform routing at every bucket and skewed routing at 128, 512 and 2048
tokens, geometric mean of the per-routing normalized latencies, two per stage
and profile, with a 1024-token bucket added to the eight shipped ones.

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Scope the generic shortlist rules.

This section specifies cold-L2 measurements, skew routing only at 128, 512, and 2048 tokens, and an added 1024-token bucket. Later, the unqualified selection section says every dtype uses the original eight-token list, uniform/skew routing, and warm-L2 timings. Scope the later rules to the other dtypes or update them for MXFP8 × MXFP4 so the documented procedure is reproducible.

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Review comment at @flashinfer/fused_moe/backends/cudnn_frost/README.md around
lines 969 - 979:
Update the later, unqualified shortlist-selection rules to distinguish MXFP8 ×
MXFP4 from the other dtypes: specify its cold-L2 measurements, added 1024-token
bucket, and skew routing only at 128, 512, and 2048 tokens, while preserving the
existing procedure for other dtypes. Ensure the rules consistently describe the
same reproducible selection process as the MXFP8 × MXFP4 section.

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Admission, token-count shortlists, the heuristic pool for unlisted shapes,
the native routing/finalize adapters and the MoELayer
integration are shared with SM107a; the adapters are compiled with the
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"producer_template": "sm120_moe_grouped_block_scale_matmul_fwd.py",
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"mma_size_m": "4",
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"sfb_tma_box_mn": "2"
},
"CONFIG_sm120_32x64x128_16x16x32_cluster1x1_warps2x4": {
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"num_b_operands": "2",
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"producer_template": "sm120_moe_grouped_block_scale_matmul_fwd.py",
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"mma_size_n": "2",
"sA_packed_elems": "16384",
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"sB_tma_bytes": "8192"
},
"CONFIG_sm120_128x128x128_16x16x32_cluster1x1_warps4x2": {
"cgrp_tile_mnk": "(128, 128, 128)",
"cta_tile_mnk": "(128, 128, 128)",
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"mma_size_n": "4",
"sA_packed_elems": "16384",
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"sfb_tma_box_mn": "2"
},
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"sA_tma_bytes": "4096",
"sB_packed_elems": "4096",
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"producer_template": "sm120_moe_grouped_block_scale_matmul_fwd.py",
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"producer_template": "sm120_moe_grouped_block_scale_matmul_fwd_swap_ab.py",
"source": {
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"sA_packed_elems": "16384",
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"sfb_tma_box_mn": "2"
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