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What does this PR do?

Reduce empty same-NK grouped-GEMM launches in the merged Triton MoE path while keeping routing metadata on device. A device-side row-tile prefix replaces the host scalar read proposed earlier in this PR.

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Test

Validation base: official 4c78b23e1218837f851189299ff67f84ae37a4a3.

Extended the existing CI-enumerated tests/ops/moe_experts/test_moe_experts.py with prefix, routing, integer-boundary, fallback synchronization and graph-capture regressions.

  • Complete MoE experts, MoE-LoRA and ops/base selection: baseline 182 passed / 27 availability skips; candidate 219 passed / 27 availability skips.
  • The three upstream fused-model implicit-sync cases (qwen3_5_moe, qwen3_vl_moe, qwen3_omni_moe) pass on baseline and candidate. They also pass with a case-only forced fallback and the original sync policy unchanged. The two sync-policy key-resolution tests pass.
  • Native fallback forward/backward passes with sync-debug error enabled. Captured forward/backward and replay pass. Both arms complete torch.compile(backend="eager", fullgraph=True) forward/backward with finite values.

End-to-end training used the frozen Qwen3 MoE configuration (48 layers, hidden size 2,048, expert intermediate size 768, 128 experts, top-k 8), fixed hash-verified input files, identical model/optimizer settings and random initialization. Each input ran baseline → candidate for ten optimizer updates per run. Relative throughput compares equal effective token work over synchronized update intervals 7–10.

Input Sequence budget Baseline Candidate throughput
Synthetic tokens 81,920 1.000× 1.292×
FineWeb-Edu whole documents 81,920 1.000× 2.299×

Effective input lengths matched across all compared updates. Separate ten-update deterministic baseline/candidate comparisons for both inputs matched the recorded loss and gradient norm exactly. Additional instrumented one-update model runs confirmed prefix construction and reuse by backward for both inputs.

API and Usage Example

No user-facing API or configuration changes. Existing fused_triton selection continues to use the registered MoE wrapper.

Design & Code Changes

  • Build one inclusive prefix of per-expert row-tile counts on device per merged forward and save it for backward.
  • Use a shape-bounded compact grid and binary search over the prefix to map valid tiles to experts.
  • Reuse the prefix in both forward and both backward same-NK calls.
  • Compile/capture, unknown capture state and unsupported schedules use shape-derived bounds without reading routing counts on the host.
  • Preserve the current post-FC2 routing-weight order and backward saved tensors. Keep split-fc1, EP, same-MN kernels and tile parameters unchanged; update the fused MoE design documentation.

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  • Applied configured pre-commit checks to the proposed files.
  • Added/updated documentation.
  • Extended an existing CI-enumerated test.

Summary by CodeRabbit

  • New Features
    • Eligible eager MoE operations can use a device-side schedule for grouped GEMMs, with the schedule reused during input-gradient calculations.
    • CUDA stream capture, compilation, and unsupported configurations continue to use the existing shape-based schedule.
  • Documentation
    • Clarified how row-count bounds and scheduling differ between split and merged FC1 operations.

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Walkthrough

Merged Triton MoE execution adds device-side compact scheduling for eligible eager calls. Compilation and capture use shape-derived bounds. Forward scheduling data is reused by same-NK backward paths. Tests cover routing, fallback, synchronization, and CUDA graph behavior.

Changes: Merged MoE scheduling

Layer / File(s) Summary
Compact tile-prefix schedules
veomni/ops/kernels/moe_experts/shared/group_gemm.py
The grouped GEMM path can build cumulative 128-row tile prefixes and use a flattened grid to locate experts. It validates supplied prefixes and retains the existing schedule when compact scheduling is unavailable.
Capture-aware bounds and backward reuse
veomni/ops/kernels/moe_experts/standard/triton.py
Merged forward execution selects shape-derived bounds during compilation or capture. Eligible eager execution builds a device-side prefix. Same-NK backward GEMMs reuse the saved forward bound and prefix.
Routing, capture, and documentation validation
tests/ops/moe_experts/test_moe_experts.py, docs/design/fused_moe_ops.md
Tests cover routing patterns, fallback states, synchronization, unsupported metadata, prefix reuse, and CUDA graph replay. Documentation describes the launch-bound and prefix-scheduling rules.

Priority: High

Estimated code review effort: 4 (Complex) | ~45 minutes

Change: Refactor

Sequence Diagram(s)

sequenceDiagram
  participant TritonMergedForward
  participant ShapeBoundCheck
  participant TilePrefixKernel
  participant GroupedGEMM
  participant AutogradContext
  participant TritonMergedBackward
  TritonMergedForward->>ShapeBoundCheck: check compilation and stream-capture state
  ShapeBoundCheck-->>TritonMergedForward: select shape-derived or compact schedule
  TritonMergedForward->>TilePrefixKernel: build eligible eager tile prefix
  TilePrefixKernel-->>TritonMergedForward: return tile prefix
  TritonMergedForward->>GroupedGEMM: launch merged grouped GEMMs
  TritonMergedForward->>AutogradContext: save bound and tile prefix
  AutogradContext->>TritonMergedBackward: provide saved scheduling data
  TritonMergedBackward->>GroupedGEMM: launch same-NK gradients with reused schedule
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Possibly related issues

  • Issue 1365: The PR adds compact merged MoE scheduling and keeps eligible routing metadata on-device, which relates to the issue’s MoE kernel-overhead optimization objective.

Suggested labels: doc

Suggested reviewers: zx55, fazziekey, zhangxin81

Merge Risk: Minimal · up to b2eb9

The change tightens grouped-GEMM launch bounds for the merged MoE path without a user-facing API change. No concrete merge-blocking risk was identified.

Security architecture risk: Low · up to bba34

The change keeps scheduling data within each operation and preserves conservative behavior during compilation and capture. No introduced vulnerability or expanded trust boundary was established. Runtime behavior under interruption and concurrency remains incompletely demonstrated.

Retained concerns
No architecture-level concerns identified.

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Security Blast Radius

  • inferred — The evidenced security-sensitive outcome is correct GPU tensor addressing and output initialization within a calling MoE operation. The inspected path does not establish a new network, credential, tenant, or service authority transition. Deployment-wide exposure cannot be determined from these sources.

Trust Boundaries and Controls

  • observed — The inspected adopting caller constructs the prefix internally from routing histogram metadata rather than accepting a separate external schedule. The kernel rejects tile IDs beyond the cumulative schedule, maps remaining IDs to experts, and preserves expert-row and column-tail store masks. Prefix count arithmetic widens before ceiling division.

Resilience and Maintainability Implications

  • inferred — The new schedule is invocation-local and read-only after construction, which counters cross-invocation contamination and repeated-backward mutation concerns. It introduces no shared schedule registry or persistent reservation requiring rollback. Normal ordering and lifetime rely on the existing tensor-stream and autograd mechanisms; interruption and concurrency were assessed from source, not demonstrated through runtime fault injection.
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tests/ops/moe_experts/test_moe_experts.py: 1

1014-1056: 🎯 Functional Correctness | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Capture the merged backward pass

The CUDA graph body calls forward() only, so it records the two forward group_gemm_same_nk calls. The merged autograd backward has two additional same-NK dgrad calls. The eager helper exercises those calls, but not during capture. A backward bound regression can therefore pass this test.

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-    x = torch.randn(tokens, hidden, device=device, dtype=torch.bfloat16)
-    w1 = torch.randn(experts, 2 * intermediate, hidden, device=device, dtype=torch.bfloat16)
-    w2 = torch.randn(experts, hidden, intermediate, device=device, dtype=torch.bfloat16)
+    x = torch.randn(tokens, hidden, device=device, dtype=torch.bfloat16, requires_grad=True)
+    w1 = torch.randn(
+        experts, 2 * intermediate, hidden, device=device, dtype=torch.bfloat16, requires_grad=True
+    )
+    w2 = torch.randn(experts, hidden, intermediate, device=device, dtype=torch.bfloat16, requires_grad=True)
...
         for _ in range(3):
-            forward()
+            forward().sum().backward()
     warmup_stream.synchronize()
+    x.grad = w1.grad = w2.grad = None
     bounds.clear()
     graph = torch.cuda.CUDAGraph()
     with torch.cuda.graph(graph):
         output = forward()
-    assert bounds == [tokens, tokens]
+        output.sum().backward()
+    assert bounds == [tokens] * 4
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Extend test_triton_merged_stream_capture_uses_shape_bound to capture and execute
the merged autograd backward: make x, w1, and w2 require gradients, run
forward().sum().backward() during warmup, clear their gradients before capture,
and run the same backward inside the CUDA graph. Update the bound assertion to
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- Around line 1014-1056: Extend
test_triton_merged_stream_capture_uses_shape_bound to capture and execute the
merged autograd backward: make x, w1, and w2 require gradients, run
forward().sum().backward() during warmup, clear their gradients before capture,
and run the same backward inside the CUDA graph. Update the bound assertion to
expect all four same-NK calls while preserving the existing forward capture and
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if _must_use_shape_derived_bound():
max_expert_tokens = compute_max_expert_tokens(expert_index, expert_index.shape[1], assume_distinct_experts)
else:
max_expert_tokens = int(splits.max().item()) if splits.numel() else 0

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[P2] This .item() makes test_no_implicit_sync_in_generated_forward[qwen3_5_moe-text-fa2-fused] fail: that case uses merged fused_triton weights and rejects unallowlisted CUDA synchronization in veomni/ops. Reconcile the intentional scalar read with the sync gate through a narrowly justified policy/test update, or retain a synchronization-free bound, and validate the affected model-level case.

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Replaced the scalar read with a device-side tile-prefix schedule, with shape-only fallbacks and no .item() or sync-policy exception. The three fused-model sync tests pass on both normal and fallback paths, and the model-level numerical checks pass. Also rebased onto the post-FC2 routing-weight layout from #1199. Thanks for catching this!

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[P2] The eager path now builds tile_cumsum entirely on-device, and the fallback uses shape metadata; neither reads the histogram back to the host. The existing sync policy is unchanged, so the original scalar-read finding is fixed.

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Synced with the latest main and resolved the conflict. This optimization has shown meaningful benefits in our workload, and we'd like to contribute it back to the community. We'd appreciate another review when you have a chance @Coach257 @FoolPlayer. Thank you for your time and feedback!

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