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Table 7-06 Level of Data #477
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I am not sure we ought to change anything here. The fact that CIMO does no longer exist doesn't change the fact that it was CIMO who generated these elements. After all, we also reference Newton in our unit table ... |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2023.04.21-TT-WIGOSMD notes: |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2023.05.04-TT-WIGOSMD notes: |
@joergklausen @meulenvd @gaochen-larc |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2023.06.01-TT-WIGOSMD notes:
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The real issue is that there are many sources. The reference to CEOS and CIMO is arbitrary, out-of-date or obsolete. Also the definitions are not valid anymore. The remaining issue is: do we like extensive definitions or short style, like in WMO-No. 47 or WSP? Both is possible and depends on what the users (readers) prefer. Conclusion:
Reference, WMO-No. 8 (GIMO), Vol. IV and V: Hyperlinks:
Extracts from WMO-No. 49 (Tech. Reg.): DEFINITIONS
*) SPICE stands for WMO Solid Precipitation Intercomparison Experiment (ask Rodica for more details on SPICE) |
If there are no updates since last meeting, then I suggest moving this to FT2024-1. |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2023.06.30-TT-WIGOSMD notes:
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@wmo-im/tt-wigosmd, @meulenvd - I updated the issue summary with the details of new definitions from the GIMO publications, but I cannot find a definition of raw. Text in bold indicates the same content in old and new definitions. I'd like to get your comments before I update the branch. |
Found a reference: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:19165:-2:ed-1:v1:en, 3.8 Product Level |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2024.01.18-TT-WIGOSMD notes: |
After modification of the Technical Regulations (and the Annexes, like the Manual on the WIGOS and the Manual on the GDPFS), the definition of Level of Data in now in the GIMO (WMO-No. 8), Guide to Instruments and Methods of Observations. However two definitions are given, one in the Chapter on Satellite observations (Vol IV) and the other in Vol V (data reduction, but largely on Surface based observations). This discrepancy between both definitions will be solved. For the (short) time being we can accept the two definitions for Level of Data, One for surface based observations (ref. GIMO Vol. V), the other for Satellite based observations (ref. GIMO Vol IV), as stated on top under new description. |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2024.02.15-TT-WIGOSMD notes: |
@meulenvd @joergklausen @amilan17 |
@joergklausen @amilan17 @JREyre For this issue is see that for "raw", "unknown" and "inapplicable" there is no alternative which is trivial for "unknown" and "inapplicable", but there is some conflict with "raw" w/r "Level 0". For satellite based data "raw" is associated with the data packets or streams as received (complete or in fractions with erroneous data segments and unprocessed, just the pure data stream as recorded). For direct measurements, "raw" is associated with the analogue electric 'signals' (resistance, current, frequency) as the direct input to the measuring device, so not directly a data stream. As soon as it is digitized, but unprocessed and expressed in a unit it is qualified as "Level 0". Anyway, CEOS, NASA and WMO documents don't speak in terms of raw data, only in Level 0. Moreover I cannot imagine that "raw" data is disseminated as such, but only "Level 0". But if we want to keep "raw"in the table I propose to modify the definitions of both "Level 0" en "raw", to become:
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Thank you for your input. |
A comment from the side. When creating the ACTRIS vocabulary, we had a very similar discussion. We faced the situation that definitions of data levels vary from community to community, even among our own topic specific data centre units. This is caused by data treatment steps being distributed differently on the data levels in different communities. We decided not to use data levels at all towards the users (to avoid definition confusion), but to define vocabulary describing explicitly what type of treatment the data have received. Examples: |
@markusfiebig @joergklausen @amilan17 @meulenvd |
This issue is still under discussion. |
@markusfiebig I commend ACTRIS and NILU for the vocabulary server, well made and something WMO should also look into. However, as TT-WIGOSMD we should still define the concept of Data Level and provide a few of the well accepted code lists. The concept exists, it obviously makes sense for some important communities if not for all of them. |
@meulenvd Can you please prepare this for our next meeting? On the new Level 0 definition, I want to raise a concern, namely that it only addresses satellite data : "Instrument and auxiliary data reconstructed from satellite raw data after removing communications artefacts. [source: GIMO (WMO-No. 8), volume IV]" I hope this is not the final word ... |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2024.04.09%E2%80%90TT%E2%80%90WIGOSMD notes: |
Status update:
The proposal (new table see DataLevelsTable-Proposal.docx) is for step 1, where also definitions for surface based data are used from WMO IOM report 131 (Report of the WMO Solid Precipitation Intercomparison Experiment, “SPICE”, 2012-2015), with definitions which are well documented and also based on Data Levels for satellite data but suitable for surface based data. |
@meulenvd latest proposal for level 0 |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2024.05.16%E2%80%90TT%E2%80%90WIGOSMD notes: |
TT-WIGOSMD noted that proposal by @meulenvd for the surface based observations is very much centered (and thus limited) to meteorological observation, while most of the descriptions would apply to other disciplines as well. It was also recognized that for most surface-based in-situ measurements, level1 is not relevant, with the exception of a few cases where a retrieval is involved. |
https://github.com/wmo-im/tt-wigosmd/wiki/2024.06.20%E2%80%90TT%E2%80%90WIGOSMD notes: |
Note, definitions are also included in the WMO-No. 49 (see https://library.wmo.int/idviewer/35722/16). |
Initial request
During the FT2023-1 NFP review, we received feedback that "CIMO" is still referenced in the descriptions of codes in table 7-06 for Level of Data.
Amendment details
updated 30 June 2023
Comments
No response
Requestor(s)
James Lunny, NFP for Codes and Data Representation Matters
Met Service, New Zealand
Stakeholder(s)
Enter list of stakeholder(s).
Publication(s)
Example: Manual on Codes (WMO-No. 306), Volume I.3, WMO Codes Registry, Code table 7-06, Level of Data,http://codes.wmo.int/wmdr/LevelOfData
Expected impact of change
LOW
Collaborators
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References
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Validation
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