[Perf] Launch the top-k/top-p Triton sampler kernel with 8 warps - #51507
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The Qrita-based _topk_topp_kernel assigns one program per logits row
(grid = min(num_SMs, batch)) and each program serially sweeps the whole
vocab row in BLOCK_SIZE=8192 tiles, so per-tile latency directly bounds
kernel latency. With Triton's default num_warps=4 an 8192-wide tile
leaves 16 elements per lane; 8 warps halves that.
Measured on RTX PRO 6000 (SM120), fp32 logits, median of 30 iters after
warmup, k=20/p=0.95 style sweeps over V in {32000, 50257, 151936}, B in
{8, 64, 256}, and k-only / p-only / k+p modes: 1.2-1.5x faster in every
combination, never slower. 16 warps is within noise of 8 on the large
vocabs but loses on V=32000, so use 8. BLOCK_SIZE sweeps (4k/8k/16k)
confirmed 8192 stays the right tile size.
End to end (Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-FP8, batch 16 decode with seeded sampling,
torch profiler over 64 steps): 305.8us -> 165.9us per step (1.84x),
3.1% -> 1.7% of decode CUDA time.
Correctness: top-k masks are bitwise identical across warp counts in
all 36 sweep combinations; pure top-p flipped a single pivot-boundary
token in 2 of 36 (sum-order fp difference ~1e-4 in the kept mass, the
same boundary tolerance the existing triton-vs-pytorch test already
codifies). tests/v1/sample/test_topk_topp_sampler.py: 122 passed, same
7 pre-existing FlashInfer distribution failures before and after.
ROCm keeps the Triton default: 64-wide wavefronts change the warp math
and I could not measure there.
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The kernel is warp-starved at Triton's default of 4 warps on AMD as well,
so drop the ROCm exclusion instead of leaving the win unclaimed.
Measured on MI355X (gfx950, ROCm 7.2.2) over vocab {32000, 129280, 151936,
262144} x batch {1..256} x {top-k, top-p, top-k+top-p}, median of 50 iters:
8 warps is faster in 84/84 configurations, mean 1.12x, range 1.05-1.17x,
with no regressions. 16 warps comes in at 0.99x and 2 warps at 0.71x, which
confirms the default really is starved rather than 8 being a lucky pick.
The same sweep on GB200 (SM100) gives 84/84 and mean 1.36x, so 8 is the
right uniform choice on both vendors and the platform check can go.
Masks are bitwise identical between 4 and 8 warps for top-k and top-k+top-p
on both arches; only pure top-p flips pivot-boundary tokens, and against a
float64 nucleus reference 8 warps is no less accurate than 4. Both arches
pass tests/v1/sample/test_topk_topp_sampler.py.
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Thanks @BabyDrangoner!
I also tested on MI355X and the perf is also similar/better with 8 warps (though not to the same degree as cuda). So I removed the platform check.
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Hi @BabyDrangoner, Thank you for the PR! I ran some sweep over H200 and MI350X (air-cooled MI355x) using MI350X Results:
H200 Results:
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Thanks for running those sweeps @cakeng! Ran the same One thing worth noting from your H200 table read the same way: best-nw per row gives nw8=68 / nw16=27 (52/20 restricting to batch ≥ 16, which is what actually reaches the Triton path — On B200: I don't have access to one, so I can't produce that column myself. Two mitigating points though: (a) the 8-vs-4 direction is unanimous across all five arches measured so far, so SM100 flipping that seems very unlikely; (b) the open question is only 8-vs-16, where the measured spread on every other arch is a few percent on a kernel that's ~1–2% of step time. The CI fleet has a SM120 (RTX PRO 6000) full sweep, nw=4/8/16
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Hi @BabyDrangoner, thanks for the RTX6000 sweep. I also expect that num_warp=8 would win out in the majority of the runs in the B200 tests as well. I was just wondering if we would have any way to further improve performance. As you mentioned, num_warp=16 wins seem to be concentrated on top_p only runs for smaller batches, and mixed_partial for larger batches. I wonder if there is a reason for this. Anyway, I agree that setting num_warp to 8 should be a good improvement compared to the default number of 4. Thank you for finding this! |
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My read on why the 16-warp wins cluster where they do: the top-p path is the only one whose inner loops are dense with If that theory is right, the cleaner future win isn't per-arch warp tuning but shrinking the exp work itself in the top-p search (e.g. #48927's log-space pivot search avoids re-exponentiating per iteration). Happy to leave that for a follow-up. Thanks for the review! |
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Agree we can change to 8 for now which seems to be a universal win, and then consider follow-on refinements separately. |
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Thanks @njhill and @cakeng for the reviews and the extra cross-architecture benchmarking! Really appreciate the help validating this across CUDA and ROCm. Glad to see this landed. The 8-vs-16 behavior on the top-p-only and mixed-partial cases is interesting as well — happy to follow up on that separately if we want to explore more workload-specific tuning. |
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Purpose
_topk_topp_kernel(the Qrita sampler kernel from #42191) runs one program per logits row, and each program serially sweeps the whole vocab row inBLOCK_SIZE=8192tiles. Triton's defaultnum_warps=4leaves an 8192-wide fp32 tile at 16 elements per lane, so per-tile latency — which directly bounds kernel latency — is warp-starved. This kernel is on the hot path for seeded / per-request-generator sampling on CUDA (FlashInfer rejects per-request generators): on Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-FP8 batch-16 decode it was the single largest non-GEMM kernel per step.This PR launches the kernel with
num_warps=8on CUDA (ROCm keeps the default: 64-wide wavefronts, no hardware to measure; CPU/XPU untouched).Results
Swept vocab {32000, 50257, 151936} × batch {8…256} × {k-only, p-only, k+p} on two architectures, fp32 logits, k=20/p=0.95, median of 30 iters:
_topk_topp_kernel305.8 → 165.9 µs/step (1.84x) on Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-FP8 batch-16 seeded decodeTopKTopPSamplerop 1.16–1.24x; sampled token ids identical in 128/128 seeded drawsSample rows (SM120 / SM90, k+p):
BLOCK_SIZEsweeps (4k/8k/16k) on both arches confirmed 8192 stays the right tile size; only the warp count was off. Why 8 and not 16: on SM120, 16 warps ties on 151k vocab and loses on 32k; on H20, 16 wins 9 of 12 points by up to 11%. 8 is the safe uniform pick on both — happy to make it arch-conditional if preferred.Correctness
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Test Result
Green on both boxes, identical baseline vs patched: 129 passed / 2 skipped (SM120), 135 passed / 2 skipped (H20).
(Correction: this description previously reported 7
TestFlashInferDistributionMatchfailures as pre-existing FlashInfer issues — they were just missingscipyon the test box. All 7 pass with scipy installed.)Essential Elements of an Effective PR Description Checklist
supported_models.mdandexamplesfor a new model.AI-assisted; all numbers above are from real runs on the stated hardware.