[Perf][ROCm] MoE int4 weight repacking for GPTQ/AWQ Triton kernel - #43389
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This pull request introduces an N-packed "interleave" weight layout for MoE int4 quantization on ROCm, aimed at optimizing the Triton kernel by reducing memory bandwidth and ALU overhead. The implementation includes a repacking mechanism during weight loading, updates to the fused_moe kernel to utilize tl.interleave for efficient unpacking, and extensive benchmarking documentation. Feedback identifies a critical missing boundary check for packed indices that could cause out-of-bounds memory access and suggests validating that BLOCK_SIZE_N is a multiple of 8 to prevent shape mismatches during broadcasting.
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So the first thing that I see is that there is a definitive .5% acc decrement, that it is OK if there is such a perf bump, but it should probably be optional. I'll also let @dllehr-amd and @tjtanaa comment on this. Also there must definitely be an evaluation on other archs and models. But those are my initial thoughts on this PR.
Thank you so much for the feedback! I am new to vLLM and I am grateful to receive various feedbacks from reviewers. Most MOE models are having a hard time to fit on single gfx11/12 other than the Qwen family. I will try if Mixtral-8x7B-Instruct-v0.1 works. Meanwhile, the acc was only ran for 1 base model asym + sym. I will try on other models to validate. |
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okay a few things here first. This looks like it's interleaving for all int4 moe's not just the gfx11/gfx12. This can be dangerous without looking through the gfx9 series for instinct lines. Have you tested this on any other arch's to ensure this doesn't cause regression, or worse accuracy/compatibility failures? Also can you list the vllm launch commands you used and the ISL/OSL/Concurrency that was involved? These are critical to know the robustness of the tests and if we need to repro anything. |
Yes agree with that, this feature should be optional as the degradation in acc is significant. Another thing, @amd-xavierwang always run the full evaluation dataset, you are only using 200 samples, the variance can be high. Please share your lmeval accuracy score again once you rerun with full dataset. |
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@bnellnm could you take a look as well. It is also modifying a common path. |
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| # Check constraints. | |||
| if self.quant_config.use_int4_w4a16: | |||
| _interleave = self.quant_config.use_int4_w4a16 and w1.dtype == torch.int32 | |||
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Can you make the interleave check a method on FusedMoEQuantConfig? e.g. is_int4_w4a16_interleaved()?
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| b_shifter = (offs_k[:, None] % 2) * 4 | ||
| if use_int4_interleave: | ||
| # B: [E, K, N//8] int32 — N-packed, 8 int4 per int32 |
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Should we assert that N % 8 == 0 (and or BLOCK_SIZE_N) here?
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Should we assert that
N % 8 == 0(and orBLOCK_SIZE_N) here?
should we keep assertion inside Triton kernel/hoist to launching?
| Output: N-packed int32 (8 int4 per int32, GPTQ sequential shifts | ||
| [0,4,...,28]). | ||
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| E, N, K_half = w.shape |
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Should this function also assert that N % 8 == 0?
Further accuracy investigation on gfx1100, gfx1201 and gfx1151:Used lm_eval, FULL dataset: Command used: lm_eval --model vllm \
--model_args "pretrained=<model>,trust_remote_code=true,max_model_len=4096" \
--tasks gsm8k --num_fewshot 5 --batch_size auto --seed 0,1234,1234,1234single seed gfx12 runs
single seed gfx1151 runs
Single-seed cross-arch summary table (% delta: PR - main)
Most deltas are well within 1-sigma SE (~0.9pp for Qwen, ~1.35pp for gemma). Gemma however has lower accuracy only on gfx1100. Multi-seed validation (gfx1100, all models, 3 seeds)
Mean delta per model x dtype (PR - main, pp):
ConclusionThe 0.5% accuracy drop was likely real, but it's due to high variance not using the full dataset, and the drop doesn't generalize across all RDNA GPUs. Using different seeds can slightly affect accuracy as well. |
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Other changes post accuracy analysis:
vLLM command used for performance benchmarking: Server:
vllm serve <model> --max_model_len 4096 --gpu_memory_utilization 0.90
Benchmark:
vllm bench serve \
--model <model> \
--dataset-name sharegpt \
--dataset-path <path>/ShareGPT_V3_unfiltered_cleaned_split.json \
--num-prompts 500
The ShareGPT dataset has variable ISL/OSL, and no --max-concurrency was set. I can try fixed ISL/OSL if there is the need. @dllehr-amd @AndreasKaratzas Appreciate further insights!! |
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I don't feel comfortable reviewing this PR. The conclusions and comments look like AI generated, and I don't currently have the time to sit down and test it myself. |
The conclusion was validated by 2 members on my team and obvious through the table. For single seed, accuracy drop does occur for certain models, but only on single type of GPU and does not generalize across all of {gfx1100, gfx1151, gfx1201}. For multi-seed, accuracy drop is observed for particular seed and does not appear for all 3 seeds. The conclusion is that acc drop doesn't generalize for all RDNAs, nor for all seeds. I did use the agent to help me generating the 3 random seeds for benchmarking and the full command arguments to use lm_eval, as this is my first time using it. If vLLM has standard way of use lm_eval, please let me know. |
rerun lm_eval with online server, FULL datasetReferencing #43385's command, I used: # Server
vllm serve /mnt/nas_share/models/Qwen/Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-GPTQ-Int4 \
--gpu-memory-utilization 0.90 --max-model-len 16384 \
--tensor-parallel-size 1 --port 8000# lm_eval:
lm_eval --model local-completions \
--model_args "model=<model_path>,base_url=http://localhost:8000/v1/completions,num_concurrent=32,max_retries=3,timeout=600" \
--batch_size auto \
--tasks gsm8k \
--num_fewshot 5 \
--output_path <log_path> \
--log_samplesResults: 1 symmetric model + asymmetric model on gfx1100 Qwen3-30B-A3B-AWQ PR:
|Tasks|Version| Filter |n-shot| Metric | |Value | |Stderr|
|-----|------:|----------------|-----:|-----------|---|-----:|---|-----:|
|gsm8k| 3|flexible-extract| 5|exact_match|↑ |0.8597|± |0.0096|
| | |strict-match | 5|exact_match|↑ |0.8878|± |0.0087|
Qwen3-30B-A3B-AWQ Main:
|Tasks|Version| Filter |n-shot| Metric | |Value | |Stderr|
|-----|------:|----------------|-----:|-----------|---|-----:|---|-----:|
|gsm8k| 3|flexible-extract| 5|exact_match|↑ |0.8635|± |0.0095|
| | |strict-match | 5|exact_match|↑ |0.8832|± |0.0088|
Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-GPTQ-Int4 PR (trial 1):
|Tasks|Version| Filter |n-shot| Metric | |Value | |Stderr|
|-----|------:|----------------|-----:|-----------|---|-----:|---|-----:|
|gsm8k| 3|flexible-extract| 5|exact_match|↑ |0.6513|± |0.0131|
| | |strict-match | 5|exact_match|↑ |0.6179|± |0.0134|
Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-GPTQ-Int4 Main (trial 1):
|Tasks|Version| Filter |n-shot| Metric | |Value | |Stderr|
|-----|------:|----------------|-----:|-----------|---|-----:|---|-----:|
|gsm8k| 3|flexible-extract| 5|exact_match|↑ |0.6626|± |0.0130|
| | |strict-match | 5|exact_match|↑ |0.6308|± |0.0133|
Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-GPTQ-Int4 PR (trial 2):
|Tasks|Version| Filter |n-shot| Metric | |Value | |Stderr|
|-----|------:|----------------|-----:|-----------|---|-----:|---|-----:|
|gsm8k| 3|flexible-extract| 5|exact_match|↑ |0.6725|± |0.0129|
| | |strict-match | 5|exact_match|↑ |0.6384|± |0.0132|
Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-GPTQ-Int4 Main (trial 2):
|Tasks|Version| Filter |n-shot| Metric | |Value | |Stderr|
|-----|------:|----------------|-----:|-----------|---|-----:|---|-----:|
|gsm8k| 3|flexible-extract| 5|exact_match|↑ |0.6391|± |0.0132|
| | |strict-match | 5|exact_match|↑ |0.6103|± |0.0134|
It seems like fluctuations exist even for the full dataset. But non demonstrates the consistent 0.5% acc drop like the 200 samples. The verbose, offline evaluation is done above as reference. |
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Thank you for enabling CI!! I will wait to address all remaining problems:
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…#43389 widened) amd-xavierwang's int4 MoE repacking, gated upstream to RDNA, widened to GFX9 after measuring it here. fused_moe_kernel_gptq_awq on 2x MI210, rocprofv3, median of 160 launches: M=1 1.81x M=8 4.80x M=32 1.45x M=128 3.60x Bit-identical output at every size, against an old-vs-old determinism control. Covers the compressed-tensors path; awq/gptq via moe_wna16.py is left for later. Signed-off-by: David <davetha@users.noreply.github.com>
… (RDNA) Repack int4 W4A16 MoE weights from K-packed uint8 [E,N,K//2] to N-packed int32 [E,K,N//8] so the GPTQ/AWQ Triton kernel unpacks them with tl.interleave instead of per-element shifts, cutting VGPR pressure on RDNA. The repack is centralized in the WNA16 oracle's TRITON branch (convert_to_wna16_moe_kernel_format), covering both the MoeWNA16 (AWQ/GPTQ) and compressed-tensors sources. It is guarded to AMD RDNA (gfx11/gfx12) and int4. w13 and w2 feed separate kernel launches and dispatch per-tensor on dtype, so each is repacked independently and only when its N % 8 == 0; otherwise that weight keeps the uint8 layout and the kernel falls back to scalar shifts. Zero points are unpacked to fp16 for the AWQ case (compressed-tensors MoE is symmetric). Adds is_int4_w4a16_interleaved() on FusedMoEQuantConfig for dtype-based dispatch. benchmark_moe.py mirrors the same per-weight repack for int4 on RDNA so tuning targets the interleaved kernel that actually runs. Signed-off-by: Xavier Wang <xawang@amd.com>
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Reflow the RDNA repack comments in the WNA16 oracle and benchmark_moe; drop the zero-point note (the None guard is self-explanatory) and fix a typo. Signed-off-by: Xavier Wang <xawang@amd.com>
… pp2048) Adapted vllm-project/vllm#43389 (open, unmerged, AMD-authored) as a local patch for the flashnext image: repacks W4A16 MoE weights at load time from K-packed [E, N, K//2] uint8 to N-packed [E, K, N//8] int32, unpacked in-kernel via tl.interleave (fewer VGPRs than per-element variable shifts). Gated behind on_rdna() + num_bits==4; author validated no gsm8k accuracy regression on gfx1100/gfx1151/gfx1201 (our arch). Measured on qwen3.8-flash-next-aixiaoma (TP4, bf16 KV, MTP4, util 0.95): - pp2048: ~700-780 -> 2344-2346 t/s (~3x) - tg32/tg128: unchanged within run-to-run noise - coherence + multi-turn growing-prefix probe: PASS Tradeoff: model weight footprint unchanged (19.95 GiB/GPU), but the patched kernel's profiling forward pass uses ~3.5-4 GiB more peak activation memory, cutting the usable ctx ceiling @ util 0.95 from 262144 to ~158304. Cut VLLM_MAX_MODEL_LEN on qwen3.8-flash-next-aixiaoma.env from 262144 to 155000 to leave headroom. Documented in README (new 'Flash-Next source-build patches' section) and BENCHMARKS.md/benchmarks/2026-08-28_qwen3.8-flash-next_43389_moe_patch_bench.md. Co-authored-by: Copilot <223556219+Copilot@users.noreply.github.com>
[Perf][ROCm] MoE int4 interleave unpacking for GPTQ/AWQ Triton kernel
Optimizes the MoE int4 Triton kernel (
fused_moe_kernel_gptq_awq) on ROCm by changing the memory packing scheme, mainly benefiting FP16 models.The current kernel loads each packed int4 byte twice (once per nibble) and uses per-element variable shifts. This PR repacks weights at load time from K-packed
[E, N, K//2]uint8 to N-packed[E, K, N//8]int32, then unpacks in-kernel via 3×tl.interleavewith constant GPTQ sequential shifts. Zero points are also unpacked to fp16 during load time to avoid on-the-flay unpacking.The goal of this GPTQ-style packed memory is to achieve overall better performance with an unified Triton kernel for Prefill + Decode. More compute-intensive Prefill benefit better from Exllama way of packing(refer to hybrid W4A16, and optimal skinny decode needs native HIP kernel. Leaving these to future work.
Inspiration:
triton_w4a16.pykernel (upstream)ROCm only. CUDA path is unchanged — interleave activates when
use_int4_w4a16 and B.dtype == torch.int32, which only occurs after ROCm-gated weight repacking. The core idea technically extends to CUDA as well — but the CUDA kernel expects uint8 packed weights as input, so guarding this to prevent impacting CUDA paths.What changes
MoeWNA16Method.process_weights_after_loading()(vllm/model_executor/layers/quantization/moe_wna16.py): On ROCm + int4, repacks weights from K-packed uint8 to N-packed int32, transposes scales, and repacks zero points (if asymmetric).CompressedTensorsWNA16MoEMethod.process_weights_after_loading(): Same repacking for compressed-tensors models.fused_moe_kernel_gptq_awq(vllm/model_executor/layers/fused_moe/fused_moe.py): Newuse_int4_interleaveconstexpr path. WhenB.dtype == torch.int32(repacked weights detected), uses `tl.interleave to unpack at register level. Supports both symmetric and asymmetric quantization.moe_problem_sizeoverride: Corrects the N dimension for the repacked layout.Why fp16 is hit hardest on gfx1100
The dequantization path does
int4 → f32 (dequant) → fp16/bf16 (truncate) → WMMA. Inspecting LLIR and AMDGCN reveals a type conversion cost asymmetry:fptrunc float→bfloatto integerv_lshrrev/v_lshlrevops. The WMMA intrinsic accepts<16 x i16>for bf16, so no float conversion pipeline is needed. 0 fptrunc/fpext instructions in the LLIR.v_cvt_f16_f32/v_cvt_f32_f16, each keeping both f32 source and fp16 result live simultaneously. 265 fptrunc/fpext instructions (136 trunc + 129 ext) inflate register pressure past the 256 VGPR budget.The interleave path avoids this entirely by reducing the number of intermediate values in the inner loop regardless of dtype.
VGPR example analysis (
fused_moe_kernel_gptq_awq, gfx1100)Interleave eliminates all register spilling and doubles occupancy on gfx1100.
Benchmark results
AWQ: Qwen3-30B-A3B-AWQ (batched serve, ShareGPT 500 prompts)
fp16 → fp16 (AWQ default):
bf16 → bf16 (
--dtype bfloat16):The fp16 improvement (+144% on gfx1100, +35% on gfx1201) comes from eliminating VGPR spilling. The bf16 improvement (+2–4%) is the pure algorithmic gain. The gfx1100 bf16 TTFT regression is not observed on gfx1201. This compute-bound regression will be solved by the optimized Exllama packing Triton kernel in the future.
AWQ: Qwen3-30B-A3B-AWQ (single-batch decode,
max_num_seqs=1, 100 prompts)fp16 → fp16:
bf16 → bf16:
Compressed-Tensors: RedHatAI/Qwen3-30B-A3B-quantized.w4a16 (bf16 → bf16, batched serve, 500 prompts, warm avg)
GPTQ: Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-GPTQ-Int4 (fp16 → fp16, 256 experts, batched serve, 500 prompts, warm avg)
Accuracy (lm_eval gsm8k, 5-shot, 200 samples, gfx1100)
No accuracy regression — all deltas are within stderr.
Test plan
lm_evalgsm8k 5-shot accuracy (AWQ + CompressedTensors).amdgcndump inspection)