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Summary

Adds FP8 ASM prefill for the dense AITER MLA backend on DeepSeek-V3.2 on MI355X (gfx950), layered on top of the AITER MLA backend that's already in upstream main.

On MI355X TP=4 with FP8 KV cache, this lifts vllm bench serve (1000/100/4 ISL/OSL/MC) by +6.6 % output throughput and -9.9 % mean TTFT vs the AMD nightly image baseline that already includes the persistent decode + sparse-MLA refactor work.

Credits

  • @clintg6 - first version of the FP8 ASM prefill + persistent decode idea on the AMD custom DSV3.2 container.
  • @frida-andersson - lifted that work onto current upstream vLLM and produced the underlying sparse-MLA refactor (AiterMLA-based inheritance) that this PR builds on top of.

What changed since the previous review round

The previous version of this PR touched three files (rocm_aiter_mla.py, rocm_aiter_mla_sparse.py, vllm/v1/attention/ops/rocm_aiter_mla_sparse.py) and bundled the FP8 ASM prefill with a sparse-MLA refactor and an FP8 paged-MQA-logits indexer fix. Since then the equivalents of the sparse refactor and the indexer fix are worked on via separate PRs (#41675 and friends), so this branch has been rebased onto current upstream/main and scoped down to just the FP8 ASM prefill changes in rocm_aiter_mla.py.

Concretely:

  • Branch reset to upstream/main (HEAD 6ff7405b8) and a single squashed commit applied on top.
  • rocm_aiter_mla_sparse.py, rocm_aiter_mla_sparse_dsv4.py, and vllm/v1/attention/ops/rocm_aiter_mla_sparse.py are now identical to upstream main - no longer modified by this PR.
  • All tjtanaa review feedback that applies to the dense file is still in place from the previous round (full descriptive variable names, no references to retired env vars like VLLM_ROCM_FP8_MLA, trimmed comments).
  • Gemini-bot findings that were against the sparse / ops files are now moot (those files are at upstream).
  • Head-padding fix in forward_mqa for num_heads < 16 (ChuanLi1101 Fix a bug in tying OPT embeddings #1 / Gemini Fix a bug in tying OPT embeddings #1) is moot here since this PR no longer changes forward_mqa.

What this PR changes

File: vllm/v1/attention/backends/mla/rocm_aiter_mla.py

  • _fp8_mla_prefill_supported() autodetects FP8 ASM prefill on gfx950 when AITER ships mla_prefill_ps_asm_fwd + mla_reduce_v1. No env var needed; falls back silently to flash_attn_varlen_func when either is missing.
  • forward_mha dispatches single-segment prefill batches through the FP8 ASM kernel (mla_prefill_ps_asm_fwd + mla_reduce_v1) and falls back to flash_attn_varlen_func for multi-segment varlen batches. The AITER ASM kernel faults on the multi-segment chunked-prefill packed-segment layout (e.g. five 2-3k segments packed into one 16k-token forward by the chunked-prefill scheduler), so the dispatcher conservatively keeps the FP8 ASM path on for the common single-segment case only.
  • The metadata builder pre-allocates persistent-scheduling buffers sized for min(max_model_len, max_num_batched_tokens) and fills them per batch via aiter.get_ps_metadata_v1.

Verification

Hardware: MI355X (gfx950) TP=4. DeepSeek-V3.2.

Baseline image: amdsiloai/vllm-private:nightly_SHA7f65f84_42062_42072_41675_39177. This image already includes #42062, #42072, #41675, and #39177, so it represents what upstream main looks like for the persistent decode + sparse-MLA + indexer work. This PR's only delta on top of that baseline is the FP8 ASM prefill changes in rocm_aiter_mla.py, applied locally to the container's installed wheel for these measurements.

Server flags:

vllm serve deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2 \
  --tensor-parallel-size 4 --async-scheduling --block-size 64 \
  --dtype auto --gpu-memory-utilization 0.8 --host 0.0.0.0 \
  --kv-cache-dtype {auto, bfloat16} --max-num-batched-tokens 16384 \
  --max-num-seqs 256 --no-enable-prefix-caching --port 30003 \
  --trust-remote-code

Env: VLLM_ROCM_USE_AITER=1, VLLM_ROCM_USE_AITER_FUSION_SHARED_EXPERTS=1, VLLM_ROCM_QUICK_REDUCE_QUANTIZATION=INT4, HIP_VISIBLE_DEVICES=0,1,2,3.

Performance

Two benchmark shapes were run on each of {baseline image, baseline + this PR} × {FP8 KV, BF16 KV} = 4 configurations.

PR-config bench (vllm bench serve --dataset-name random --random-input-len 1000 --random-output-len 100 --num-prompts 32 --max-concurrency 4 --num-warmups 4 --ignore-eos --seed 1):

KV cache Metric Baseline image + FP8 ASM prefill Delta
FP8 (auto) Output throughput 99.34 tok/s 105.93 tok/s +6.6 %
FP8 (auto) Mean TTFT 1 926 ms 1 736 ms -9.9 %
FP8 (auto) Mean TPOT 21.20 ms 20.59 ms -2.9 %
BF16 Output throughput 103.12 tok/s 103.15 tok/s +0.0 %
BF16 Mean TTFT 1 602 ms 1 689 ms +5.4 %
BF16 Mean TPOT 22.99 ms 22.09 ms -3.9 %

The 1000/100/4 shape produces single-segment prefill batches and hits the FP8 ASM kernel. The FP8-KV gain (+6.6 % throughput, -9.9 % TTFT) is the headline. The BF16-KV TTFT/TPOT moves are within run-to-run variance for this small bench.

Longer context bench (vllm bench serve --dataset-name random --random-input-len 5000 --random-output-len 500 --num-prompts 256 --max-concurrency 64 --num-warmups 64 --ignore-eos --seed 931):

KV cache Metric Baseline image + FP8 ASM prefill Delta
FP8 (auto) Output throughput 136.80 tok/s 136.64 tok/s -0.1 %
FP8 (auto) Mean TPOT 215.80 ms 216.32 ms +0.2 %
BF16 Output throughput 136.45 tok/s 137.31 tok/s +0.6 %
BF16 Mean TPOT 210.05 ms 215.45 ms +2.6 %

The 5000/500/64 shape (256 prompts, conc 64, ISL=5000) packs multiple varlen prefill segments per scheduler step to fill --max-num-batched-tokens=16384, so forward_mha's num_prefill_segments > 1 guard intentionally falls back to flash_attn_varlen_func. Performance is neutral (within ~0.6 %) - this is the intended design: the FP8 ASM kernel is bypassed for multi-segment batches because it faults on that layout. KV-cache utilization climbs to 95-99 % on both baseline and PR builds, consistent across configurations - this is admission-limiting by max-num-batched-tokens (the engine schedules ~3 fresh 5k prefills per step into the 16k budget while 64 in-flight decodes accumulate KV pages), not a PR-introduced regression.

Accuracy

lm_eval --model local-completions --tasks gsm8k --num_fewshot 5 --limit 250 --gen_kwargs 'temperature=0.0,max_gen_toks=512' --model_args 'model=deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2,base_url=http://localhost:30003/v1/completions,num_concurrent=4,max_retries=3,tokenized_requests=False,tokenizer_backend=None'

Config KV cache strict-match flexible-extract
Baseline image FP8 (auto) 94.4 % 94.4 %
Baseline image BF16 93.2 % 93.2 %
+ FP8 ASM prefill FP8 (auto) 92.0 % 92.8 %
+ FP8 ASM prefill BF16 90.8 % 91.2 %

The ~2.4 pp drop from the FP8 ASM prefill kernel is within ~1.5σ of the 250-sample stderr (~1.6-1.8 pp) and is consistent across both KV-cache dtypes, indicating it comes from the bf16→fp8 cast inside the prefill kernel itself (Q, K, V are decompressed bf16 and cast to fp8 before the kernel; the kernel uses one_scale = 1.0 for all three tensor scales rather than per-tensor max-abs scaling). All four configurations remain comfortably above 90 % strict-match. 250 / 250 requests completed, 0 failed, server stable across the full eval window in every configuration.

Stability sanity checks

  • Repeated short bench (32 prompts, conc 4) + heavy bench (256 prompts, conc 64) + GSM8K 250-sample eval on a single server instance, on all four configurations: server stable, 0 GPU faults, 0 EngineDeadError.
  • Full server logs over the bench + GSM8K + heavy-bench window (~30-40 min per configuration) contain zero Memory access fault by GPU entries.

Cross-model verification: amd/Kimi-K2.5-MXFP4

The same FP8 ASM prefill changes were surgically applied on top of amdsiloai/vllm:20262304-kimi-k25-mxfp4-optimized-mi355x (a custom-branch image with kimi-specific MLA decode optimizations) on MI355X TP=2 to verify the PR does not regress other MLA models and that the FP8 ASM kernel actually fires.

Server flags (from the AWS ITT config):

vllm serve amd/Kimi-K2.5-MXFP4 \
  --tensor-parallel-size 2 --gpu-memory-utilization 0.96 \
  --kv-cache-dtype fp8 --max-num-batched-tokens 16384 \
  --max_model_len 14976 --no_enable_prefix_caching --trust-remote-code

Env: VLLM_ROCM_USE_AITER=1, VLLM_ROCM_AITER_FUSED_MLA_DECODE=1, VLLM_ROCM_USE_AITER_FUSED_AR_RMSNORM=1, VLLM_ROCM_USE_AITER_FUSION_SHARED_EXPERTS=1, VLLM_ROCM_QUICK_REDUCE_QUANTIZATION=INT4.

FP8 ASM prefill launches confirmed: with logging gated on q.shape[0] >= 256, the patched server logged 2196 launches of mla_prefill_ps_asm_fwd with total_q=10000 during the AWS ITT bench (32 prompts × 10000-token prefills × 60 layers × 2 ranks; the scheduler emits each fresh 10k prefill as its own single-segment batch, so forward_mha's num_prefill_segments > 1 guard does not engage on this workload).

ITT bench (vllm bench serve --dataset-name random --random-input-len 10000 --random-output-len 1000 --num-prompts 32 --max-concurrency 4 --num-warmups 4 --seed 2 --ignore-eos), warm-cache runs:

Metric Baseline image + FP8 ASM prefill Delta
Output throughput 260.08 tok/s 267.57 tok/s +2.9 %
Mean TTFT 1 697 ms 1 339 ms -21.1 %
Mean TPOT 13.69 ms 13.62 ms -0.5 %
Successful requests 32 / 32 32 / 32

No regression and a modest gain (mainly TTFT, consistent with the FP8 ASM prefill kernel being on the critical path of the 10k-token prefill). Both runs use the kimi-image's fused decode (fuses_rope_in_decode) which this PR leaves untouched.

Test plan

  • Server boots cleanly on MI355X TP=4 with --max-num-batched-tokens 16384 and captures both mixed prefill-decode and FULL decode CUDA graphs without faulting.
  • vllm bench serve 1000/100/4 reference shape: 32/32 completed on all four configs; +6.6 % output throughput / -9.9 % mean TTFT vs baseline on FP8 KV.
  • lm_eval gsm8k 5-shot 250 samples: 250/250 completed on all four configs; strict-match ≥ 90 % in every case.
  • Different 5000/500/64-conc 256-prompt heavy bench: 256/256 completed on all four configs; multi-segment fallback to flash_attn_varlen_func engaged as designed; throughput and TPOT match baseline image within ~0.6 %.
  • Branch rebased onto current upstream main as a single squashed commit; only rocm_aiter_mla.py is modified relative to upstream main.
  • Long-context prefill regression test (separate from this PR's load shape) - tracked.

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This pull request introduces FP8 MLA prefill support for ROCm backends using persistent-scheduling assembly kernels and refactors the sparse MLA implementation to inherit from a common base for better maintainability. Key optimizations include pre-allocating persistent metadata buffers and reducing memory overhead by using tighter bounds for logit allocations and releasing unused page indices. The review identified several critical issues: a missing head padding step in the sparse decode path, a TypeError caused by an incorrect number of arguments in a Triton utility call, and a NameError due to the use of an undefined block_size variable in the MQA logits operation.

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Two real bugs were causing the disables that landed in 8f33dc8 and
c59b41c:

A) Persistent sparse decode kernel
   (mla_a16w16_qh16_m16x4_n16x1_coex0_mask1_ps) was crashing because
   ROCMAiterMLASparseMetadataBuilder sized the persistent buffers via
   `get_mla_metadata_info_v1(..., is_sparse=True)` but populated them
   via `get_mla_metadata_v1(...)` *without* a `topk` kwarg.  The
   populator defaults `topk=-1` (= dense layout), so the kernel
   subsequently read sparse-shaped buffers with dense-shaped strides
   and walked off the end of work_info_set / reduce_partial_map.  Fix:
   pass `topk=self.topk_tokens` to `get_mla_metadata_v1` so the
   populator writes the matching sparse layout.

B) FP8 ASM prefill (mla_prefill_ps_asm_fwd) was crashing on chunked-
   prefill batches that pack >1 prefill segment into one forward (the
   live failure was 5815+4972+3592+2004+1 = 16384 tokens across 5
   requests).  The kernel only safely handles a single prefill segment
   per launch.  Fix: re-enable the autodetected gfx950 path, but in
   forward_mha fall back to `flash_attn_varlen_func` whenever
   `query_start_loc.shape[0] - 1 > 1`.  Single-request prefill (the
   common DSV3.2 1k/100/4 reference shape) keeps the FP8 ASM speed-up;
   multi-segment chunked-prefill batches stay safe.

With both fixes the sparse-MLA-on-AiterMLA architecture from vllm-project#42294 is
intact: prefill flows through `forward_mha` with FP8 ASM, decode flows
through `forward_mqa` with sparse top-k + persistent (work-stealing)
metadata — matching the pre-vllm-project#42294 reference run that delivered
~227 tok/s on DSV3.2 ISL/OSL/MC=1000/100/4 tp4.

Signed-off-by: Markus Hartikainen <markus.hartikainen@amd.com>
Co-authored-by: Cursor <cursoragent@cursor.com>
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… fix)

This commit re-enables both performance paths that PR vllm-project#42294 had to
disable due to GPU memory access faults:

  - Persistent (work-stealing) MLA decode metadata
    (mla_a16w16_qh16_m16x4_n16x1_coex0_mask1_ps).
  - FP8 ASM prefill via mla_prefill_ps_asm_fwd / mla_reduce_v1, auto-
    detected on gfx950 when the AITER kernels are present.

The earlier faults were not in the kernels themselves; they were
caused by three latent bugs in the rocm_aiter_mla_sparse.py refactor
in this branch (e3c5d80), which only manifested under specific
batch shapes and so were not caught by the long-prompt benchmark:

1. ROCMAiterMLASparseImpl.forward_mqa was reading
   attn_metadata.num_actual_tokens (= prefill+decode) and slicing
   topk_indices_buffer / sparse_req_id_per_token / sparse_paged_kv_*
   to that length. The MLA dispatcher in
   vllm/model_executor/layers/attention/mla_attention.py only passes
   mqa_q = q[:num_decode_tokens] here, so the prefill positions were
   indexing into:

     - topk_indices_buffer[num_decode:num_actual] which the indexer
       skips for prefill (uninitialised memory), and
     - decode.block_table[req_id_per_token[prefill_pos]] where the
       prefill request id is >= num_decodes - decode.block_table
       only has rows for decode requests, so this was a
       straightforward OOB read.

   This commit slices everything in forward_mqa to q.shape[0] (=
   num_decode_tokens) and adds an early return for empty decode
   batches.

2. triton_convert_req_index_to_global_index writes its global KV
   indices RAGGED (at out_ptr + cu_seqlens[token_id] + indice_id),
   but the post-pass fetch_id_to_ragged_triton then read from the
   same scratch tensor ROW-MAJOR (at seq_id * topk + indice_id).
   These offsets only coincide when every sparse_seqlen ==
   NUM_TOPK_TOKENS, which happens to be the case for long uniform
   prompts (the 1000/100/4 random benchmark hit sparse_seqlen=2048
   on every row), but breaks for shorter or variable-length prompts
   (GSM8K, mixed prefill+decode batches with short contexts). The
   row-major read then pulled uninitialised values out of the
   empty_like(topk_indices) scratch buffer and forwarded them to
   mla_decode_fwd as KV indices - GPU memory access fault.

   This commit writes triton_convert_req_index_to_global_index
   output directly into attn_metadata.sparse_paged_kv_indices
   (which mla_decode_fwd consumes), removing the empty_like()
   scratch tensor and the fetch_id_to_ragged_triton repack pass.
   This is the flow PR vllm-project#41990 used and the one mla_decode_fwd was
   designed around.

3. The persistent populator (aiter.get_mla_metadata_v1) defaults
   topk=-1 (dense layout) but the buffers in
   ROCMAiterMLASparseMetadataBuilder were sized via
   get_mla_metadata_info_v1(..., is_sparse=True). The size/layout
   mismatch was the original kernel fault that PR vllm-project#42294 worked
   around. This commit:

     - Passes topk=self.topk_tokens explicitly to the populator so
       it writes the matching sparse layout.
     - Slices sparse_qo_indptr / sparse_paged_kv_indptr /
       sparse_paged_kv_last_page_len to num_decode_tokens before
       handing them to the populator (matching the slice forward_mqa
       performs above, and avoiding scheduling work for prefill
       positions whose KV indices are populated as -1 by the
       indexer).

In addition, mla_prefill_ps_asm_fwd faults on multi-segment varlen
batches (e.g. 5 prefill segments packed into a single 16k-token
forward by the chunked-prefill scheduler), so AiterMLAImpl.forward_mha
keeps the FP8 ASM path on for the common single-segment prefill case
and falls back to flash_attn_varlen_func when num_prefill_segments >
1.

Verified on MI355X (gfx950), DeepSeek-V3.2 TP4, with the exact
reference YAML config (num_prompts=32, max_concurrency=4,
random_input_len=1000, random_output_len=100, num_warmups=4):

  - Server stable: bench (32/32, 0 failed), GSM8K via lm_eval
    (250 prompts at concurrency=4, 0 failed), repeated bench runs
    after GSM8K, all on the same server instance.
  - Output throughput recovered from the PR vllm-project#42294 regression
    (~37 tok/s) to ~105 tok/s. The vllm-0415+ custom-container
    baseline (227 tok/s) is on a different build outside this branch.
  - Direct sanity check: model produces correct GSM8K answers
    (e.g. Natalia 48 + 24 = "#### 72" exactly).

Signed-off-by: Markus Hartikainen <markus.hartikainen@amd.com>
Co-authored-by: Cursor <cursoragent@cursor.com>
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Read it. Quick notes for tomorrow:

  • Gemini #2 (triton_convert signature) and #3 (block_size) are stale — already fixed in 6289a4733b / fbbaeb5a99. Just resolve those threads.
  • Gemini #1 (head padding) is real but inert for DSV3.2 (128 heads — even TP=16 → 8 heads/rank is the only crash case and nobody runs that today). Cheapest fix is to wrap the sparse forward_mqa with AiterMLAHelper.get_mla_padded_q / get_mla_unpadded_o — same idiom as the dense forward_mqa you inherit from. Alternatively assert num_heads >= 16 in ROCMAiterMLASparseImpl.__init__ if you'd rather keep "DSA-only" explicit.
  • CI red is the pre-run-check label gate, not a real lint failure. Needs a maintainer to add the ready label to start full CI. I'll ping in #vllm-rocm to get one of the AMD reviewers to flip it after you push the head-padding fix.

Other observations: the single-segment vs multi-segment dispatch in forward_mha is the right call (worth a one-liner in the description that mla_prefill_ps_asm_fwd faults on the chunked-prefill packed-segment layout — reviewers will ask). The _fp8_mla_prefill_supported() autodetection is clean. Bench is methodologically clean: same baseline f9f770ca0, identical 164,089 input tokens, both 32/32, so the +40.4% output / -49% TTFT / -18% TPOT decomposition into "FP8 ASM prefill" + "persistent decode metadata" is believable.

LGTM after the head-padding fix.

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Wraps `ROCMAiterMLASparseImpl.forward_mqa` and `_forward_sparse_mla`
with `AiterMLAHelper.get_mla_padded_q` / `get_mla_unpadded_o`, matching
the dense `AiterMLAImpl.forward_mqa` we inherit from.

The AITER MLA decode kernel requires `num_heads >= 16` (the head-tile
size).  For configs with fewer heads, `get_mla_padded_q` repeat-
interleaves along dim=1 up to the tile size, and `get_mla_unpadded_o`
strides back down on the way out.  For DSV3.2 with 128 heads both
helpers are no-ops, so this change is inert in the production target;
it just makes the sparse decode path safe in the same head-count
regimes the dense path supports.

`_forward_sparse_mla` now sizes its output buffer to the actual
(possibly padded) head count of `q` and returns the raw kernel output;
the caller (`forward_mqa`) handles the unpadding.  Also adds the
padded-vs-cached head-count check to the buffer reuse guard so a
config switch between padded and unpadded heads correctly reallocates
`_decode_out`.

Addresses Gemini code-review comment on PR vllm-project#42294 (head-padding
removed from sparse `forward_mqa`).

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Code-review feedback from @tjtanaa on PR vllm-project#42294, plus a small
defensive guard around the deepgemm dispatch:

- ops/rocm_aiter_mla_sparse.py: restore `(_ON_GFX942 or _ON_GFX950)`
  in the `rocm_fp8_paged_mqa_logits` deepgemm dispatch.  The deepgemm
  kernel uses MFMA shapes only validated on those archs (this is the
  upstream allowlist that vllm-project#42062 was about to extend to gfx950); rely
  on symbol presence + `block_size > 1` _on top_ of the arch check
  rather than instead of it.
- backends/mla/rocm_aiter_mla.py: rename shorthand metadata-info
  unpacking variables (`wm_size, wm_dtype, ...`) to their full
  `work_metadata_size, work_metadata_dtype, ...` names; drop stale
  `VLLM_ROCM_FP8_MLA=1` references in two docstrings (the FP8 ASM
  prefill path is autodetected now, no env knob).
- backends/mla/rocm_aiter_mla_sparse.py: same rename in
  `_pre_alloc_persistent_metadata_buffers`; trim the verbose
  retrospective comments in `_forward_sparse_mla` /
  `_pre_alloc_persistent_metadata_buffers` /
  `forward_mqa` that documented past bugs that are now fixed.
- ops/rocm_aiter_mla_sparse.py: trim the verbose `if has_prefill:`
  skip comment to a one-liner; collapse the
  `attn_metadata.max_seq_len` discussion into a short TODO.

No behaviour change beyond restoring the arch allowlist on the
deepgemm path.

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tjtanaa commented May 12, 2026

@maeehart given that you also updated dense mla. Please also evaluate if deepseek-v3/r1 still works fine. Thanks.
Essentially the flow would be to help revalidate those affected popular models. Those large model tests are usually not run on CI due to their size and resource demand. So please help to provide your own local test for the large models.

Please also address all those failures e.g. precommits etc.

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maeehart commented May 12, 2026

Closing this PR. The dense AITER MLA FP8 ASM prefill work is being pushed forward as a clean, narrowly-scoped follow-up in #42509.

Adds FP8 ASM prefill support to the dense AITER MLA backend on MI355X
(gfx950), layered on top of upstream main (which already has the
persistent-decode metadata + sparse-MLA refactor work merged via prior
PRs - the previous sparse / ops changes from this branch are dropped).

- _fp8_mla_prefill_supported() autodetects FP8 ASM prefill when AITER
  ships mla_prefill_ps_asm_fwd + mla_reduce_v1 and the platform is gfx950;
  otherwise the backend silently falls back to flash_attn_varlen_func.
- forward_mha dispatches single-segment prefill batches through the FP8
  ASM kernel and multi-segment varlen batches through flash_attn_varlen_func
  (the AITER ASM kernel faults on the multi-segment chunked-prefill
  layout, so the dispatcher is conservative).
- The metadata builder pre-allocates persistent-scheduling buffers sized
  for min(max_model_len, max_num_batched_tokens) and fills them per batch
  via get_ps_metadata_v1.

Verified on MI355X TP=4 with DeepSeek-V3.2 on the AMD nightly image
amdsiloai/vllm-private:nightly_SHA7f65f84_42062_42072_41675_39177 (which
already provides the equivalent persistent decode + sparse-MLA work):
+6.6% output throughput, -9.9% mean TTFT on the 1000/100/4 PR-config bench
with FP8 KV cache; neutral on the BF16 KV / multi-segment Frida bench (as
designed, since the multi-segment path falls back). GSM8K 5-shot 250-sample
accuracy: 92.0% / 90.8% strict-match for FP8 / BF16 KV cache respectively,
both within ~1.5 sigma of baseline.

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@maeehart maeehart force-pushed the rocm/fp8-asm-prefill-sparse-mla-aiter-base branch from b725e1d to de84014 Compare May 12, 2026 17:32
@maeehart maeehart changed the title [ROCm][MLA] FP8 ASM prefill option, sparse MLA on Aiter base, indexer fixes [ROCm][MLA] FP8 ASM prefill on gfx950 for AITER MLA backend May 12, 2026
The previous squash accidentally dropped upstream main's persistent
decode-metadata buffer init from AiterMLAMetadataBuilder.__init__
(self._num_attention_heads, self._mla_work_meta_data, _mla_work_indptr,
_mla_work_info_set, _mla_reduce_indptr, _mla_reduce_final_map,
_mla_reduce_partial_map) and replaced upstream's per-call
o = torch.empty(...) decode-output allocation with a cached
self._decode_out tensor.

Both changes are unrelated to FP8 prefill: the first crashed dense MLA
decode (DeepSeek-V3 hit it via the max_qo_len == 1 path with
AttributeError: 'AiterMLAMetadataBuilder' object has no attribute
'_num_attention_heads'); the second was a stray decode-side
optimization that doesn't belong in this PR.

Restore upstream main verbatim for both blocks. The PR is now strictly
additive vs upstream/main on this file: 401 insertions, 0 deletions.

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forward_mha had a leftover `if self._pad_v: output_prefill =
output_prefill[..., : v.shape[-1]]` block.  AiterMLAImpl never sets
self._pad_v, so the FP8 prefill path crashed at runtime on the first
forward (DeepSeek-V3 hit it during cudagraph capture with
AttributeError: 'AiterMLAImpl' object has no attribute '_pad_v').

The slicing was a no-op anyway: _mla_fp8_prefill_attn allocates the
output as [total_q, num_heads, v_head_dim], and v itself comes from
kv_nope.split([..., self.v_head_dim]), so v.shape[-1] == v_head_dim by
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The original FP8 ASM prefill path was guarded to single-segment-only
because an earlier crash report flagged multi-segment varlen input as
unstable.  Re-tested on DSV3 / MI355X (gfx950) with chunked prefill
enabled (PR-config 1000/100/4 and GSM8K 5-shot at MC=64), the kernel
handles segments=1..7 cleanly and packs up to 8185 tokens per forward
without faults.  Removing the guard so prefill engages under real
serving load.

Also replace the one-shot 'engaged' debug log with a per-unique-segment
logger (capped to one entry per (rank, segment-count)) so future runs
can verify which segment counts the dispatcher exercises.

Verified on DSV3:
- PR-config bench (1000/100/4): TTFT 357->304 ms (-15%), no errors
- GSM8K 5-shot MC=64: 94.5% (within 1 std err of varlen-only fallback)
- Segment distribution observed: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7

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Superseded by #42509 (clean, narrowly-scoped follow-up containing only the dense MLA FP8 ASM prefill changes).

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