[Kernel] Tune default fp8 block-scaled Triton config for M<=8 decode#40925
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This pull request optimizes the w8a8_triton_block_scaled_mm Triton kernel for low-M decode scenarios by adjusting BLOCK_SIZE_M and num_stages when M <= 8. A review comment points out that setting num_stages to 3 can lead to resource exhaustion on ROCm platforms and suggests using a platform-specific configuration to maintain stability.
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| block_m, num_stages = 16, 3 | ||
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| block_m, num_stages = 64, 2 |
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Setting num_stages=3 can lead to OutOfResources errors or performance regressions on ROCm, as seen in other Triton kernels in the codebase (e.g., in vllm/model_executor/layers/fused_moe/fused_moe.py). It is safer to use num_stages=2 for ROCm while keeping the optimized value for NVIDIA architectures.
| if M <= 8: | |
| block_m, num_stages = 16, 3 | |
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| block_m, num_stages = 64, 2 | |
| if M <= 8: | |
| block_m, num_stages = 16, (2 if current_platform.is_rocm() else 3) | |
| else: | |
| block_m, num_stages = 64, 2 |
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Hi @mgoin @tlrmchlsmth — this is my first vLLM contribution, so the Would one of you (or any quantization CODEOWNER) be willing to take a quick look and add the Happy to address any review feedback. Thanks for your time! |
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Thanks for catching this @gemini-code-assist — you're right.
Just amended the commit (force-pushed da10c6e) to gate if M <= 8:
block_m = 16
num_stages = 2 if current_platform.is_rocm() else 3
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block_m, num_stages = 64, 2Rationale: the |
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Thanks for the update, @tonyliu312. The change to gate |
`w8a8_triton_block_scaled_mm` falls back to a hardcoded default config when no pre-tuned `configs/N=*,K=*,device_name=*.json` file matches the GPU. The default uses `BLOCK_SIZE_M=64`, which wastes 98% of the M dimension in single-request decode (M=1). GPUs without a pre-tuned JSON file for their (N, K, device) tuple pay this cost. Narrow the change: only specialize the M<=8 case (single-request decode and short MTP-style draft batches). Larger M keeps the previous default unchanged so non-decode paths and tuned configs are not perturbed. M <= 8 (CUDA) -> BLOCK_SIZE_M=16, num_stages=3 (new) M <= 8 (ROCm) -> BLOCK_SIZE_M=16, num_stages=2 (new) else -> BLOCK_SIZE_M=64, num_stages=2 (previous default) num_stages=3 is gated to non-ROCm because MI300/MI250X LDS (64 KB) is borderline for 3-stage Triton pipelining at typical [128, 128] block sizes; on ROCm we keep num_stages=2 so the M<=8 branch still gets the BLOCK_SIZE_M=16 wave-quantisation win without LDS pressure. Pre-tuned JSON configs are unaffected (they short-circuit before this branch). Workloads that already have a JSON for their (N, K, device) get the same kernel as before. Verified on dual DGX Spark (GB10, sm_121, TP=2) running V4-Flash: median single-request decode goes from 5.45 t/s to 6.73 t/s (+23%) with no other changes. Output remains coherent. The win is expected to generalize to other architectures lacking a pre-tuned JSON for the target (N, K) pair, but only the GB10 case is verified here; reviewers on Hopper/Ampere are welcome to confirm or push back. Refs vllm-project#40860 (V4 rebase), vllm-project#40899 (jasl SM12x scope is orthogonal) Signed-off-by: Tony Liu <tonyliu0512@gmail.com>
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…V4-Flash expert shapes
Adds Triton autotuned configs for NVIDIA H20-3e (SM90) for the two
primary expert GEMM shapes in DeepSeek-V4-Flash:
N=2048, K=7168 (gate / up projection, per expert)
N=7168, K=2048 (down projection, per expert)
Without these configs the fallback uses BLOCK_SIZE_M=64 regardless of
actual batch size. For decode batches where M=1–32 this wastes ~60 % of
Tensor Core capacity through excessive CTA padding.
Autotune results on NVIDIA H20-3e (SM90, CUDA 9.0):
Shape N=2048,K=7168 — speedup vs fallback (BM=64,BN=128,BK=128):
M=1 : 1.79× M=4 : 1.64× M=8 : 1.62×
M=16 : 1.63× M=32 : 1.57× M=48+: ~1.0× (fallback already optimal)
Shape N=7168,K=2048:
M=1 : 1.60× M=4 : 1.23× M=8 : 1.17× M=16 : 1.16×
Key finding: BLOCK_SIZE_M=16 (instead of 64) is optimal for M≤32 on H20
because it avoids ~75% CTA padding that otherwise kills Tensor Core utilisation.
Also adds N=2048,K=7168 and N=7168,K=2048 to the benchmark script's
get_weight_shapes() so these shapes are included in future re-tuning runs.
Related: PR vllm-project#40925 (same fix for GB10/SM120 — "Hopper reviewers welcome").
Made-with: Cursor
…V4-Flash expert shapes
Adds Triton autotuned configs for NVIDIA H20-3e (SM90) for the two
primary expert GEMM shapes in DeepSeek-V4-Flash:
N=2048, K=7168 (gate / up projection, per expert)
N=7168, K=2048 (down projection, per expert)
Without these configs the fallback uses BLOCK_SIZE_M=64 regardless of
actual batch size. For decode batches where M=1–32 this wastes ~60 % of
Tensor Core capacity through excessive CTA padding.
Autotune results on NVIDIA H20-3e (SM90, CUDA 9.0):
Shape N=2048,K=7168 — speedup vs fallback (BM=64,BN=128,BK=128):
M=1 : 1.79× M=4 : 1.64× M=8 : 1.62×
M=16 : 1.63× M=32 : 1.57× M=48+: ~1.0× (fallback already optimal)
Shape N=7168,K=2048:
M=1 : 1.60× M=4 : 1.23× M=8 : 1.17× M=16 : 1.16×
Key finding: BLOCK_SIZE_M=16 (instead of 64) is optimal for M≤32 on H20
because it avoids ~75% CTA padding that otherwise kills Tensor Core utilisation.
Also adds N=2048,K=7168 and N=7168,K=2048 to the benchmark script's
get_weight_shapes() so these shapes are included in future re-tuning runs.
Related: PR vllm-project#40925 (same fix for GB10/SM120 — "Hopper reviewers welcome").
Made-with: Cursor
…V4-Flash expert shapes
Adds Triton autotuned configs for NVIDIA H20-3e (SM90) for the two
primary expert GEMM shapes in DeepSeek-V4-Flash:
N=2048, K=7168 (gate / up projection, per expert)
N=7168, K=2048 (down projection, per expert)
Without these configs the fallback uses BLOCK_SIZE_M=64 regardless of
actual batch size. For decode batches where M=1–32 this wastes ~60 % of
Tensor Core capacity through excessive CTA padding.
Autotune results on NVIDIA H20-3e (SM90, CUDA 9.0):
Shape N=2048,K=7168 — speedup vs fallback (BM=64,BN=128,BK=128):
M=1 : 1.79× M=4 : 1.64× M=8 : 1.62×
M=16 : 1.63× M=32 : 1.57× M=48+: ~1.0× (fallback already optimal)
Shape N=7168,K=2048:
M=1 : 1.60× M=4 : 1.23× M=8 : 1.17× M=16 : 1.16×
Key finding: BLOCK_SIZE_M=16 (instead of 64) is optimal for M≤32 on H20
because it avoids ~75% CTA padding that otherwise kills Tensor Core utilisation.
Also adds N=2048,K=7168 and N=7168,K=2048 to the benchmark script's
get_weight_shapes() so these shapes are included in future re-tuning runs.
Related: PR vllm-project#40925 (same fix for GB10/SM120 — "Hopper reviewers welcome").
Made-with: Cursor
Signed-off-by: wyjBot <fkeryj@outlook.com>
Purpose
w8a8_triton_block_scaled_mmfalls back to a hardcoded default config when no pre-tunedconfigs/N=*,K=*,device_name=*.jsonfile matches the GPU. The default usesBLOCK_SIZE_M=64, which wastes 98% of the M dimension for single-request decode (M=1). GPUs without a pre-tuned JSON for their (N, K) tuple pay this cost.This PR specializes only the M ≤ 8 branch (single-request decode and short MTP-style draft batches) to use
BLOCK_SIZE_M=16, num_stages=3. Larger M is unchanged to keep blast radius small.M <= 8Pre-tuned JSON configs are unaffected — they short-circuit before this branch. Workloads that already have a tuned JSON for their
(N, K, device)keep the exact same kernel as before.Test Plan
Test Result
Hardware: dual DGX Spark (GB10, sm_121), TP=2. Model: DeepSeek-V4-Flash. Mode: single request, decode-dominated.
Run config:
--moe-backend marlin --kv-cache-dtype fp8_ds_mla --gpu-memory-utilization 0.88 --load-format instanttensor, max_tokens=80, temperature=0, 5 warm runs, statistical median.No-regression check: for M ≥ 9 the patch falls into the existing
elsebranch withBLOCK_SIZE_M=64, num_stages=2, matching the prior default exactly. For hosts with a tuned JSON, theif configs:branch fires and this code path is never reached.Notes
M <= 8is changed. M > 8 keeps the previous default. This is intentionally smaller than my first internal draft (which also added an M ≤ 32 branch) to minimise risk on archs where I don't have a way to verify (Hopper / Ampere / Datacenter Blackwell).if capability_family == 12is straightforward.BLOCK_SIZE_N,BLOCK_SIZE_K,GROUP_SIZE_M, ornum_warps, because changing them has second-order effects that vary by arch.Related
configs/N=*,K=*,device_name=*.jsonfiles, not in this default branch.Checklist
M > 8(existing default preserved)pre-commit run --files vllm/model_executor/layers/quantization/utils/fp8_utils.py)readylabel from maintainer per first-time-contributor gate)