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In Fully Async Policy, support for recomputing rollout log probabilities is enabled, and Rollout Importance Sampling is activated.

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This pull request introduces Rollout Importance Sampling for the Fully Async Policy. This involves adding logic to recompute old_log_prob using the trainer's model, which requires saving and restoring model states to/from CPU. The changes include new utility functions for FSDP2 model state manipulation, modifications to the trainer logic to handle model state caching and recomputation, and updates to documentation and experiment scripts. My review has identified two high-severity issues. One is a maintainability risk in fstp_utils.py due to reliance on private PyTorch FSDP APIs. The other is a correctness issue in a new experiment script, where a necessary flag to enable the new feature is missing.

@ArronHZG ArronHZG changed the title [trainer] feat: Fully Async Policy add Rollout Importance Sampling [trainer, recipe] feat: Fully Async Policy add Rollout Importance Sampling Oct 29, 2025
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related to Rollout Importance Sampling #3694
Rollout Correction #3984
and the original blog

@online{liu-li-2025-rl-collapse,
  title = {When Speed Kills Stability: Demystifying {RL} Collapse from the Training-Inference Mismatch},
  author = {Liu, Jiacai and Li, Yingru and Fu, Yuqian and Wang, Jiawei and Liu, Qian and Shen, Yu},
  year = {2025},
  month = sep,
  url = {https://richardli.xyz/rl-collapse}
}

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…pling with Megatron (#4023)

### What does this PR do?

Related to #3955 #2981 
This PR support computing prox log prob with megatron in Fully Async
Policy for Rollout Importance Sampling, and provided two example run
scripts, supporting asynchronous RL training with GRPO for
`Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`.

**Additional Notes:** We found that the example script
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experimental validation, we observed significant train-inference
mismatch issues when using `Qwen3-30B-A3B` for RL training (similar to
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…pling with Megatron (verl-project#4023)

### What does this PR do?

Related to verl-project#3955 verl-project#2981 
This PR support computing prox log prob with megatron in Fully Async
Policy for Rollout Importance Sampling, and provided two example run
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**Additional Notes:** We found that the example script
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used `Qwen3-30B-A3B` instead of `Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`. Through our
experimental validation, we observed significant train-inference
mismatch issues when using `Qwen3-30B-A3B` for RL training (similar to
the problem described in [this GitHub
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…pling with Megatron (verl-project#4023)

### What does this PR do?

Related to verl-project#3955 verl-project#2981 
This PR support computing prox log prob with megatron in Fully Async
Policy for Rollout Importance Sampling, and provided two example run
scripts, supporting asynchronous RL training with GRPO for
`Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`.

**Additional Notes:** We found that the example script
`examples/grpo_trainer/run_qwen3moe-30b_megatron_96gb.sh` originally
used `Qwen3-30B-A3B` instead of `Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`. Through our
experimental validation, we observed significant train-inference
mismatch issues when using `Qwen3-30B-A3B` for RL training (similar to
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…pling with Megatron (verl-project#4023)

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…pling with Megatron (verl-project#4023)

### What does this PR do?

Related to verl-project#3955 verl-project#2981 
This PR support computing prox log prob with megatron in Fully Async
Policy for Rollout Importance Sampling, and provided two example run
scripts, supporting asynchronous RL training with GRPO for
`Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`.

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used `Qwen3-30B-A3B` instead of `Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`. Through our
experimental validation, we observed significant train-inference
mismatch issues when using `Qwen3-30B-A3B` for RL training (similar to
the problem described in [this GitHub
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TimurTaepov pushed a commit to giorgossideris/verl that referenced this pull request Dec 20, 2025
…pling with Megatron (verl-project#4023)

### What does this PR do?

Related to verl-project#3955 verl-project#2981 
This PR support computing prox log prob with megatron in Fully Async
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scripts, supporting asynchronous RL training with GRPO for
`Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`.

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used `Qwen3-30B-A3B` instead of `Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`. Through our
experimental validation, we observed significant train-inference
mismatch issues when using `Qwen3-30B-A3B` for RL training (similar to
the problem described in [this GitHub
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vyomakesh0728 added a commit to vyomakesh0728/verl that referenced this pull request Jan 22, 2026
…pling with Megatron (verl-project#4023)

### What does this PR do?

Related to verl-project#3955 verl-project#2981 
This PR support computing prox log prob with megatron in Fully Async
Policy for Rollout Importance Sampling, and provided two example run
scripts, supporting asynchronous RL training with GRPO for
`Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`.

**Additional Notes:** We found that the example script
`examples/grpo_trainer/run_qwen3moe-30b_megatron_96gb.sh` originally
used `Qwen3-30B-A3B` instead of `Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base`. Through our
experimental validation, we observed significant train-inference
mismatch issues when using `Qwen3-30B-A3B` for RL training (similar to
the problem described in [this GitHub
issue](verl-project#3597 (comment)
issue is avoided with Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base, so we modified this example
script to prevent others from encountering the same pitfall.



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