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[BUG] Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro 360 no sound through speaker #4055

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datmischa opened this issue Jul 6, 2022 · 115 comments
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[BUG] Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro 360 no sound through speaker #4055

datmischa opened this issue Jul 6, 2022 · 115 comments
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@datmischa
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Describe the bug
On my Galaxy Book2 Pro 360, there is no audio output through the internal speakers. Audio works fine with headphones (wired as well as bluetooth), could not test over usbc - displayport cable yet, but guessing this works too. If I play some test sound through speaker-test, I can see the indicator in the plasma-pa applet moving.
I tested the internal microphone with arecord, it works as well.

What have you tried to diagnose or workaround this issue?
Installed mainline kernel (5.19-rc5) and sof-firmware 2.2 with no effect.

To Reproduce
Installed / booted various Linux derivates (Gentoo, Arch, Void, Ubuntu, Fedora) with the same outcome.

Reproduction Rate
100% of the time.

Expected behavior
Sound is playing through internal speakers

Impact
deal breaker, no sound on the go

Environment

  1. Branch name and commit hash of the 2 repositories: sof (firmware/topology) and linux (kernel driver).

  2. Name of the topology file:
    Topology: ABI 3:22:1 Kernel ABI 3:21:0 (dmesg output)

  3. Name of the platform(s) on which the bug is observed.

    • Platform: ARCH (and derivates), Gentoo, Fedora, Ubuntu

dmesg
dmesg_grep_sof.txt
dmesg.txt

sof-logger
freezes my system

alsa-info.txt

@datmischa datmischa added the bug Something isn't working label Jul 6, 2022
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This is likely a codec and amplifier issue, see suggestions to double-check if this also happens with the legacy HDaudio driver.

https://thesofproject.github.io/latest/getting_started/intel_debug/suggestions.html#disable-sof-on-pci-hdaudio-devices-to-test-audio-playback

@datmischa
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I finally got my speakers working.

Steps to reproduce
/etc/pulse/default.pa
#load-module module-suspend-on-idle
and run the script (credits to drlucas from manjaro.org)
https://pastebin.com/raw/zsXp2vz6

I have to rerun the script every time I restart/wake the PC from sleep.
What would be the appropriate place to get this script implemented into the kernel/driver/firmware, so that this hack does not have to be used?

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lgirdwood commented Jul 11, 2022

@datmischa thanks for posting the script, GH has mangled the URL but it works if copy and pasted.

I've pasted the top of the script below and it looks like its the same verbs being modified over and over. Are you able to reduce this script to a minimum set of verb writes ? Once the minimum verbs are known it should be possible to patch the drivers.

#!/bin/bash

sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x1a SET_PIN_WIDGET_CONTROL 0x5
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x2b
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0xc00 0x0
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x2b
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x40c 0x10
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x3
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x42
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x5
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x42b 0xe0
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x8
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x42f 0xcf
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0xe
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x46f 0x80
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0xf
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x62
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x10
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x40e 0x21
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x11
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x19
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x17
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x2b
sudo hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x40c 0x10

Fwiw verb 0x500 looks like it could be a volume ramp (and maybe some others could be too).

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F0xedb commented Aug 21, 2022

Hi @lgirdwood,

I'm able to replicate the verbs working on the Galaxy Book 2 Pro 360.

Since the original Author is not replying I might be able to assist with getting the minimal verb list to get it working.
What is the best approach to get this minimum set of verbs?

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@F0xedb I think you have to use this tool to dump the needed verbs https://github.com/Conmanx360/QemuHDADump, once known they can then be upstreamed to the Linux codec driver.
@plbossart @ujfalusi @bardliao please correct me if I'm wrong.

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ghost commented Aug 28, 2022

This issue seems to affect other Galaxy Book Models too

@joshuagrisham
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Hi!

I have the Galaxy Book2 Pro (non-360) and have similar sound issues in Linux (multiple kernels and versions of SOF).

Maybe the 360 and non-360 have some kind of difference because the verb list from that Manjaro forum post never worked for me.

However I have succeeded in using QemuHDADump to get a (very long) list of verbs that actually do work -- now I can get sound on my Book2 Pro, but I would like that we can try to fix whatever is needed in the driver/upstream to remove these little workarounds :)

@lgirdwood I don't think its an issue to get the verbs again (they are already in the file and if they are working then that is all that this script/process would get out too from what I understand) but the issue is more about trying to narrow down exactly which verbs are actually "needed".

For example the smallest I have gotten my list down to is around 1,500 lines (yikes) but have a bit of a tough time trying to narrow it down at it seems there is some kind of cache which "holds on" to the settings for a while, even after restarts. Basically once I send in the verbs that work, the sound keeps "working" even after restarts and then after several hours or a day later I find that it seems to not be working anymore.

So my question is actually now, is there an easy way to "reset" the driver/hardware cache so that I can get a faster cycle to trial-and-error which verbs are really needed and then narrow the list down? Some kind of command or anything which I can run to clear this "cache" that appears to be there?

Thank you!

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@ujfalusi @bardliao any idea how to reset the HDA register cache here ?

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ujfalusi commented Sep 7, 2022

Once the right set of verbs identified for the device they can be integrated to sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c as quirk or fixup.
After that there will be no need for the script in user space.

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Once the right set of verbs identified for the device they can be integrated to sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c as quirk or fixup. After that there will be no need for the script in user space.

Hi @ujfalusi this sounds great to me but still having a bit of trouble with being able to quickly test which verbs are really needed vs not. The issue is it takes some time for the cache to reset/clear so trying to narrow down 1500 verbs to just a few (5-10??) with only one attempt per day is a bit tricky 😆

I have tried a bit with using some of the sysfs files (https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/hd-audio/notes.html#hd-audio-reconfiguration) a bit like this:

$ systemctl --user stop pulseaudio.s*
$ sudo su
# cat /sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/init_pin_configs
0x12 0x411111f0
0x13 0x40000000
0x14 0x411111f0
0x17 0x90170110
0x18 0x04a11020
0x19 0x411111f0
0x1a 0x411111f0
0x1d 0x40630245
0x1e 0x411111f0
0x1f 0x411111f0
0x21 0x04211050
# echo 0x12 0x411111f0 > /sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/user_pin_configs
# cat /sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/user_pin_configs
0x12 0x411111f0
# echo 1 > /sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/reconfig

Every time I try to update /reconfig or /clear then everything just "freezes" and it never seems to finish.

After a while in the journal (dmesg or journalctl) I can see something like this:

[  734.517375] snd_hda_codec_realtek ehdaudio0D0: hda-codec: reconfiguring
[  968.061471] INFO: task bash:4817 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[  968.061485]       Not tainted 5.15.0-47-generic thesofproject/sof#51-Ubuntu
[  968.061488] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
[  968.061491] task:bash            state:D stack:    0 pid: 4817 ppid:  4816 flags:0x00004006
[  968.061500] Call Trace:
[  968.061503]  <TASK>
[  968.061509]  __schedule+0x23d/0x590
[  968.061519]  ? call_rcu+0xe/0x20
[  968.061529]  schedule+0x4e/0xc0
[  968.061533]  schedule_timeout+0x103/0x140
[  968.061538]  ? call_rcu+0xe/0x20
[  968.061543]  ? __cond_resched+0x1a/0x50
[  968.061547]  ? __dentry_kill+0x14a/0x190
[  968.061553]  __wait_for_common+0xab/0x150
[  968.061556]  ? usleep_range_state+0x90/0x90
[  968.061567]  wait_for_completion+0x24/0x30
[  968.061573]  snd_card_free+0xa0/0xb0 [snd]
[  968.061591]  soc_cleanup_card_resources+0x2c5/0x2e0 [snd_soc_core]
[  968.061624]  snd_soc_del_component_unlocked+0x135/0x170 [snd_soc_core]
[  968.061648]  snd_soc_unregister_component_by_driver+0x3b/0x60 [snd_soc_core]
[  968.061671]  devm_component_release+0x11/0x20 [snd_soc_core]
[  968.061706]  release_nodes+0x3d/0xb0
[  968.061712]  devres_release_all+0x9b/0xd0
[  968.061717]  __device_release_driver+0x1bb/0x2a0
[  968.061724]  device_release_driver+0x29/0x40
[  968.061729]  snd_hda_codec_reset+0x2a/0x70 [snd_hda_codec]
[  968.061752]  reconfig_store+0x47/0xa0 [snd_hda_codec]
[  968.061769]  dev_attr_store+0x14/0x30
[  968.061775]  sysfs_kf_write+0x3b/0x50
[  968.061782]  kernfs_fop_write_iter+0x138/0x1c0
[  968.061788]  new_sync_write+0x114/0x1b0
[  968.061795]  vfs_write+0x1d5/0x270
[  968.061798]  ksys_write+0x67/0xf0
[  968.061802]  __x64_sys_write+0x19/0x20
[  968.061805]  do_syscall_64+0x59/0xc0
[  968.061809]  ? fput+0x13/0x20
[  968.061813]  ? filp_close+0x60/0x70
[  968.061818]  ? exit_to_user_mode_prepare+0x37/0xb0
[  968.061824]  ? syscall_exit_to_user_mode+0x27/0x50
[  968.061828]  ? __x64_sys_close+0x11/0x50
[  968.061833]  ? do_syscall_64+0x69/0xc0
[  968.061836]  ? do_syscall_64+0x69/0xc0
[  968.061838]  entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x61/0xcb
[  968.061845] RIP: 0033:0x7f4b9db8da37
[  968.061850] RSP: 002b:00007fff3ab56e38 EFLAGS: 00000246 ORIG_RAX: 0000000000000001
[  968.061856] RAX: ffffffffffffffda RBX: 0000000000000002 RCX: 00007f4b9db8da37
[  968.061858] RDX: 0000000000000002 RSI: 00005589c83bfc40 RDI: 0000000000000001
[  968.061860] RBP: 00005589c83bfc40 R08: 00007f4b9dc4a460 R09: 000000007fffffff
[  968.061862] R10: 0000000000000000 R11: 0000000000000246 R12: 0000000000000002
[  968.061864] R13: 00007f4b9dc93780 R14: 00007f4b9dc8f600 R15: 00007f4b9dc8ea00
[  968.061868]  </TASK>

But then again maybe I am trying to go about this totally wrong. 😆 So I guess back to my earlier question, is there a (relatively) easy way to reset the HDA verbs so that I can try to test different sets of verbs and narrow down the list so we can figure out what needs to be included in the fixup?

Thanks again!

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Hi @ujfalusi this sounds great to me but still having a bit of trouble with being able to quickly test which verbs are really needed vs not. The issue is it takes some time for the cache to reset/clear so trying to narrow down 1500 verbs to just a few (5-10??) with only one attempt per day is a bit tricky

Yeah, this sounds painful. Fwiw a lot of these 1500 could be volume ramps i.e. to prevent loud pops. I would check the verb list for writes of increasing values to the same verb ID and just use the last write for that verb. This should speed things up (but will pop atm). There may be increasing value writes to multiple verb IDs (e.g. for L/R spk or HP).

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Itaig10 commented Sep 28, 2022

@joshuagrisham I am struggling with extracting the needed verbs with the non 360 model, can you please upload somewhere the list of the verbs? thanks!

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I have the same 360 laptop and I tried months ago get a patch to solve speaker problems in kernel bugzilla https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216023

Unfortunately, there is multiple issues like the big quantity of verbs needed to make it work, being unable to use snd-hda-intel early patching and even then, only the left speaker works. Only both work if you try initialize from windows and reset to linux.

The audio configuration carries until the computer is fully shutdown, reset isn't enough to clean state of audio card

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Hi @Itaig10 I just threw my list into pastebin so you can see if you like here: https://pastebin.com/45ksYAXX

Just to state again, this list I got by using the QEMU method to actually run a new Windows instance using QEMU from within Linux, then inside of Windows, installing the soundcard drivers, playing audio from the virtual Windows environment (which worked!), and capturing the verbs using some combination of tools and processes that were linked in some of the other threads.

I have done some debugging the last few days with adding a sleep delay to each line with this file and found that the exact line which "turns on" left speaker is line 2249 and then the right speaker "turns on" at line 3857

Both happen exactly when this value is sent:

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x11

But it is a bit strange, it seems almost like a sequence which needs to be preceded by something else. I have looked a bit to see what patterns seem to exist and have used meld to try and find what is really "different" between when the left speaker turns on and the right speaker turns on, and the best I could find is this:

At the beginning of the file seem to be some kind of ramps and other things happening which I have not quite fully figured out, but once you get somewhere past line 500-600 or so then there seems to be basically a "left speaker" sequence which turns the left on, followed by a "right speaker" sequence which turns the right on. These two "sides" (approx. 1600 lines each) seem to be almost exactly identical except I found a small sequence that seems to be unique for each one.

For the "left side" it happens between line 2173 and line 2182 in my file

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x423 0xa6
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x64
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x11
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x423 0xa6
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x64
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x11

Followed eventually as said that on line 2249 the speaker turns on.

And then for the "right side" it is between line 3672 and 3680 of my file:

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x423 0x91
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x3
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x11
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x423 0x91
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x3
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x11

And then the speaker turns on at line 3857.

I have tried to do a bit what @lgirdwood suggested and try to take the max value from what seem like various ramps, then take these two different sequences plus some group of the sequence before the speakers "turns on" -- few attempts so far but still no dice as of yet. If I push the whole file in, then I have sound and that is great! But does not feel super close yet to identifying actually which verb values are needed, and to pinpoint what would need to be fixed in the kernel...

Also as a small aside, my perception is that even after all of this, the right side speaker is slightly quieter than the left side.. if I drag the balance slider a bit towards the right then I feel like I get a bit more "balanced" sound.

Since this is a very part-time "hobby" for me (meaning that my time is usually a bit limited!), my hope is that someone can maybe pick up from what I have here and we can find a way forward together somehow! 😎

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So - the verbs that @joshuagrisham posted here saved me. I have the Galaxy Book2 Pro Arc graphics version (NP950XEE), and none of the other fixes or verbs from the various forums worked at all. So here's my question:

I noticed when it first worked, as others here do, that the right-side volume was about 10% less. No biggie at all. But during testing, I shutdown to reset, confirmed I had no sound, then re-ran the verbs, getting sound again. But this time the right-side was like 50% quieter. Is it possible these verbs are altering the volume, and leaving the right slightly lower each time it runs - Has anyone else noticed this? And if so, does it reset ever, when, how?

In the meantime, I am going to apply these verbs only when necessary (as opposed to installing as a service as planned), and cross my fingers that there are some updates on this issue/thread... Cause I tried to go down the QEMU route myself, and got endlessly stuck, so you all are better men than me ;)

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mkdolan commented Nov 27, 2022

I am also having the same exact issue with the non-360 Galaxy Book2 Pro with Ubuntu 22.04 with all the latest package and kernel updates. Bluetooth or headphone audio works fine, but nothing from the speakers. If there's anything I can do to help run a test, or provide any outputs, just let me know.

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I am also having the same issue with my Samsung Galaxy Book 2 Pro 360 running Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon (Kernel: 5.15.0-53-generic).
System information data:
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio vendor: Samsung Co
driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-53-generic running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes

I hope that a fix will be available soon

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@bardliao anyone from Realtek that should be added here? I think Realtek are the only folks who can solve the codec/amp config.

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@bardliao anyone from Realtek that should be added here? I think Realtek are the only folks who can solve the codec/amp config.

[email protected], but I can't remember his github account.

@plbossart plbossart transferred this issue from thesofproject/sof Nov 30, 2022
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same problem for me (non 360)

[soso@pc1234 ~]$ inxi -A
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
  Sound API: ALSA v: k6.0.10-300.fc37.x86_64 running: yes
  Sound Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.61 running: yes
[soso@pc1234 ~]$ uname -a
Linux pc-131.home 6.0.10-300.fc37.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:55:13 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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TompeHarshavardhan commented Dec 2, 2022

I am also having the same exact issue with the non-360 Galaxy Book2 Pro

Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-56-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
uname -a
Linux Harshs-Galaxybook 5.15.0-56-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 22 19:54:14 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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t-trmg commented Dec 28, 2022

Just another +1 to having this issue with a Samsung Galaxy Book2 Pro 360 (NP950QED-KA1US). Just installed Ubuntu 20.04 and fully updated said install via apt update && apt dist-upgrade.

Output from 'lspci -kvv'

00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
	DeviceName: Onboard - Sound
	Subsystem: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Device c1ac
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 32, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 187
	IOMMU group: 13
	Region 0: Memory at 601d190000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Region 4: Memory at 601d000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D3 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable+ DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
	Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?>
	Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
		Address: 00000000fee00a38  Data: 0000
	Kernel driver in use: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
	Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl

Output of inxi -A

Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-56-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes

Output of uname -a

Linux GalaxyBook2 5.15.0-56-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 22 19:54:14 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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t-trmg commented Dec 28, 2022

@joshuagrisham your perception is not wrong. Looks like running through the verb list you shared on Oct 16 also works for me, and as you observed the left channel is noticeably quieter. It seems if I adjust balance to the left about 1/3rd-ish of the way between center and full left it sounds even.

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t-trmg commented Dec 28, 2022

@bardliao anyone from Realtek that should be added here? I think Realtek are the only folks who can solve the codec/amp config.

[email protected], but I can't remember his github account.

If my sleuthing is correct, it is @kailangyang. Hopefully I am correct. 😁.

@influenist
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Hi guys, same issue here with the xiaomi notebook pro x 15 (ALC 298). Sound only coming from 2 speakers out of 4, with 20%. Rear ones don't get any sound at all.

http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=e4477f3727b1df458e1647d10a48cba2f94b2112

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hamfirst commented Feb 21, 2023

Can confirm that the verbs by joshuagrisham get audio working on Linux on the Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360

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wcota commented Apr 8, 2023

I have the Samsung NP950XEE-XA1BR model with ALC298 and the verbs by @joshuagrisham worked fine for the left speaker. However, the right one is very low. It was an improvement since nothing else worked. It would be great to fix this and have both speakers working similarly!

I noticed when it first worked, as others here do, that the right-side volume was about 10% less. No biggie at all. But during testing, I shutdown to reset, confirmed I had no sound, then re-ran the verbs, getting sound again. But this time the right-side was like 50% quieter. Is it possible these verbs are altering the volume, and leaving the right slightly lower each time it runs - Has anyone else noticed this? And if so, does it reset ever, when, how?

I noticed the same thing in mine, @drewdrew0!

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I just tried @joshuagrisham verbs on my NP958XED-KA1IT and sound is working now, even after a reboot!

I am not noticing any problem with the volumes, but I will periodically check.

Thanks!

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Hi @drewdrew0 , thanks for speaking up -- not sure if your device is covered or not! There is already a patch submitted and applied to the sound tree but it is not a big deal to make another one and send it in. Not sure when the cut-off for 6.11 will be but hopefully there is still some time! (and if not then 6.12 will be right around the corner anyway)

What is the value you see if you run cat /sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/subsystem_id ?

Thanks @joshuagrisham !

So the value returned by the above command is: 0x144dc872

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@crinavar and @scolton99 - Thanks for confirming those verbs work for you.

I'm making a kernel patch for the Razer Blade HDA fixups, can you confirm your subsystem ID? You can cat /sys/class/sound/hwC1D0/subsystem_id (or whichever card number corresponds for you).

On a RZ09-0483 I've got 0x1a583006

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@crinavar and @scolton99 - Thanks for confirming those verbs work for you.

I'm making a kernel patch for the Razer Blade HDA fixups, can you confirm your subsystem ID? You can cat /sys/class/sound/hwC1D0/subsystem_id (or whichever card number corresponds for you).

On a RZ09-0483 I've got 0x1a583006

RZ09-0484, I've got 0x1a583007

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hi @j-m-harris
I've got

➜  ~ cat /sys/class/sound/hwC1D0/subsystem_id
0x1a583006

Currently, the old verbs list fix requires me to also close and open lid and then audio wakes up. I have Arch Linux up to date.

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Thanks @joshuagrisham !

So the value returned by the above command is: 0x144dc872

Thanks @drewdrew0 patch submitted, you can see it here: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-sound/[email protected]/T/#u 😎

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Hi @j-m-harris I took a quick look at the verbs list that was linked and can see that there is a lot of extra stuff in that list as well that I am almost 100% certain is not necessary. I think it would be good to do a similar analysis as I did for the Samsung devices like here: #4055 (comment)

I can try to start taking a look at the verbs file but I suspect it will be a bit hard to tell exactly since it is already a "cleaned" file, it would be better to have an even more raw file and even better one that comes out from my own QEMU patch and cleanup script (info about that in the comment I linked above).

From a quick check of your verbs list I can see that it is REALLY similar as far as HOW it works but that the actual coef values are a bit different. So it would not work to just "add" your devices but it might make sense to re-factor a bit so that even your Razor devices work with the same fixups that I created (just need a bit more ability to control the speaker amp IDs and payloads per device instead of hard-coding them like I have done)

tiwai pushed a commit to tiwai/sound that referenced this issue Sep 13, 2024
Adds support for GB2Pro Arc variant (NP950XEE) based on successful
test and information provided by Github user drewdrew0 [1].

[1]: thesofproject#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
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Hi @joshuagrisham, I own a Razer Blade 14 (2023 model), and I'm following this discussion with great interest. Given the ongoing refinement of the verbs list and the proposed approach to make the solution more adaptable to different devices, I'm curious to know if these updates will benefit my Razer Blade 14 as well.

Understanding that there's a suggestion to refactor the approach to better control speaker amp IDs and payloads per device, I'm hopeful that this will make the new solution more universally applicable, including for newer models like mine.

Could you provide some insights into whether the changes discussed here will extend support to the Razer Blade 14 (2023 model) and what steps might be involved to ensure compatibility?

Thank you for all the hard work!

Best,

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joshuagrisham commented Sep 13, 2024

Hi @KeyStrokeVII, I noticed that @j-m-harris had uploaded a CORB event log that might be able to help here: #4055 (comment) but without timestamps on when the actual values were read/written it is a bit hard to understand the "context" for each event (e.g. startup and driver init stuff usually happens within the first few seconds, then there is a gap, a few seconds later maybe some kind of Windows startup/login sound happens, eventually shutdown also happens all together within the last few seconds)

Also I feel like maybe there was some kind of a "lag" or other issue when tracing the events, and that the log is actually missing some lines of what really happened ... e.g. just as example I am almost 100% certain that before line 3175 in the file (id 0x0030d0) there should have been a AC_VERB_SET_COEF_INDEX event that is missing in the log (write 0x23 to node 0x20 verb 0x500) but there is no line in the log that does this. That is just one example but there are several others that I found where I am left scratching my head and having trouble making 100% sense of this log, unfortunately! I also would kind of like to know what the coef reads returned (e.g. line 106 and 108 in the file I would really like to know what the value returned was .. I suspect even here or somewhere near here were also some "lost" events?)

What I think I have been able to tell so far is that the device seems to have 2 speaker amps with id 0x10 and 0x12 respectively (instead of 4 like some of the ones discussed in this thread) but even that seems weird since the specs for this device I found online say that there are 4 total speakers on this device.

If I were to look at it further then what I would really personally want is if someone could run something more like my modified version of QEMU (see patch here: https://github.com/joshuagrisham/galaxy-book2-pro-linux/blob/main/sound/qemu/vfio-common.patch though might need to insert the changes manually into common.c to work for other versions of QEMU source if you don't use exactly the same commit I generated my patch file from... plus, the parsing script here: https://github.com/joshuagrisham/galaxy-book2-pro-linux/blob/main/sound/qemu/hda-verb-log-to-csv.py ) and then ideally that whomever tested and captured the trace could do it a bit like this:

  • Record the exact time (to the second) that you start the VM
  • Record the exact time (to the second) that Windows starts up/and or is waiting at the login screen
  • Record the exact time (to the second) that Windows is logged in (and if any kind of Windows startup sound played??)
  • Wait a while (at least 30-60 seconds) without opening any app
  • Play some kind of audio (anything, doesn't matter) and record the time (to the second)
  • Some time during or immediately after playing the sound, close whatever app was used to play the audio, record the exact time you closed the app (to the second), and wait again for at least 30-60 seconds
  • Click to shut down Windows and record the exact time (to the second) that you clicked to shut down (was there a shutdown sound, by the way?
  • Record the exact time (to the second) that the VM finally shut down

(Ideally you would actually disable all notification sounds and startup/login/shutdown sounds in the Windows VM as a pre-prep step, then shut it off, before doing this test so that NOTHING is played until you manually play some audio yourself at a controlled time -- this is how I did it on my device! This is especially helpful for these devices which seem to be sending tons of app-specific EQ settings baked into the driver so there are hundreds of extra events if there is a lot of audio playing at random times, and it makes it harder to figure out the basic minimum that is actually needed)

Plus it would be good to have an RtHDDump.exe output from the same device in a "real" Windows environment with at least two scenarios: without playing any audio (and no audio has been playing for at least 30 seconds), and while audio is playing back.

The above "time log", plus RtHDDump files, and the trace/csv files from a QEMU with my patch would be a really good start IMHO to take some really good steps towards being able to identify exactly which events are doing exactly what. 😺

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hamfirst commented Sep 13, 2024

@joshuagrisham Well done! Congrats on getting the patch in! 6.11 is going to get a lot of people's audio working without any workaround scripts.

I just want to add - the windows driver has files pertaining to the following hw ids
hwids.txt

Not sure if it's worth pre-emptively adding these into the kernel since they would not have been tested though. Just figured I'd mention it in case any more info comes out that might allow them to be added

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This is a good idea @hamfirst but the weird thing is that this list seems to be missing some subsystem IDs (for example mine is not even in the list!). Then I thought that maybe it only has the ones which have 4 speaker amps, but even that was not the same.. on first glance, it feels a bit random?

I was thinking it would actually be nice to really figure out how it might be possible to interrogate the device / read some values from it and just use something like a SND_PCI_QUIRK_VENDOR for all Samsung (0x144d) instead (and maybe some of the others that are popping up here, like LG, Razer, etc?) where the quirk function could then read from the device what the different speaker amps are and then send appropriate init payloads for them.

TBH the existing quirk ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP is actually super similar to this new V2 one, just that the speaker amp IDs are slightly different, the payloads are much smaller and have smaller integer values in them... but it feels like it might not be totally "crazy" that they could potentially all be using the same functions with some kind of self-discovery if it is actually possible.

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Thanks @joshuagrisham !
So the value returned by the above command is: 0x144dc872

Thanks @drewdrew0 patch submitted, you can see it here: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-sound/[email protected]/T/#u 😎

Thanks again @joshuagrisham :) I will be really happy when 6.12 rolls around and no more workaround scripts. In the meantime, one last question ;) ? Do you know what is the new, current list of verbs for my machine (NP950XEE)? I am still using one of the original ones from this thread so long ago, that 75% of the time leaves one speaker softer, and has some distortion at higher volumes, etc. I've seen a lot of activity lately on this thread, and know you've done a lot of hard work on the verb list, so wanna just make sure I'm using the latest and best in the meantime. Thanks again!

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@joshuagrisham That is some pretty impressive analysis, I agree it would be preferable to get the verb list down to what is absolutely required.

@KeyStrokeVII Is your Razer Blade 14 the 2023 model, RZ09-0482? If so I expect the subsystem ID is 0x1a582020?

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@joshuagrisham That is some pretty impressive analysis, I agree it would be preferable to get the verb list down to what is absolutely required.

@KeyStrokeVII Is your Razer Blade 14 the 2023 model, RZ09-0482? If so I expect the subsystem ID is 0x1a582020?

Yes its RZ09-0482x

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Hi, thank you both for this amazing work.

(1) can you confirm the new patches in 6.11 will be testable on any other model with something like:

sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio-fix.conf <<< 'options snd-hda-intel model=alc298-samsung-amp-v2-4-amps'

(option found in patch_realtek.c) ?

(2) I am the owner of a LG gram 16 2-in-1 16T90R-K.ADB9U1, subsystem_id 0x18540496.

I'm still using jeff's verbs as I detailed in c14 on Kernel bug 212041 -- unfortunately joshua's initial verbs were not enough in this case so I'm guessing alc298-samsung-amp-v2-4-amps would not work either, but are the verbs close enough to make a patch for this model without having to record everything again as joshua explained above ?

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I have been following this thread for a long time and Have used @joshuagrisham 's verbs to get working audio. That process is simple but not a permanent fix like the one I am seeing from 6.11. Can someone please point me in the direction of where I can start learning to either build the kernel with this patch in it? Im on Arch currently with my Samsung Pro3 360. I am a Debian user typically but this all seems to be bleeding edge fixing and the rolling releases with Arch will probably have the fix before the rest of the releases.

Thanks in advance and I really appreciate everything you all have done to get this moving. (After this is all fixed we can start working on the webcam fix :)

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joshuagrisham commented Sep 22, 2024

Hi, thank you both for this amazing work.

(1) can you confirm the new patches in 6.11 will be testable on any other model with something like:

sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/audio-fix.conf <<< 'options snd-hda-intel model=alc298-samsung-amp-v2-4-amps'

(option found in patch_realtek.c) ?

(2) I am the owner of a LG gram 16 2-in-1 16T90R-K.ADB9U1, subsystem_id 0x18540496.

I'm still using jeff's verbs as I detailed in c14 on Kernel bug 212041 -- unfortunately joshua's initial verbs were not enough in this case so I'm guessing alc298-samsung-amp-v2-4-amps would not work either, but are the verbs close enough to make a patch for this model without having to record everything again as joshua explained above ?

Hi @eddy-geek yes I think the patch will be testable as you mentioned in (1)

(2) I don't think the patch will work with your device as the payloads I see in your script are slightly different. IMHO it would be very interesting to see some traces for your device like I described in that comment you mentioned: #4055 (comment)

It might be possible to try and avoid that but a little bit trial-and-error...

How many speakers does your device actually have? I am guessing 4 but your capture is a bit odd in that it seems to be acting on 2 different sets of IDs (some things against 0x10-0x13 and some things against 0x38-0x3b). Anyway "just a guess" but here is my guess on what a more minimal set of verbs for your device would look like as gleaned from your capture:

#!/bin/sh

# "does something" (disables??) on 0x10
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x10

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x7c
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1a

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x70
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1a


# "does something" (disables??) on 0x11
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x11

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x7c
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1a

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x70
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1a


# "does something" (disables??) on 0x12
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x12

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x7c
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1a

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x70
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1a


# "does something" (disables??) on 0x13
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x13

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x7c
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1a

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x70
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1a




# "does something" (inits??) on 0x38
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x38

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x7c
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1b


# "does something" (inits??) on 0x39
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x39

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x7c
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1b


# "does something" (inits??) on 0x3a
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x3a

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x7c
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1b


# "does something" (inits??) on 0x3b
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x3b

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x7c
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x1b



# "does something" (enables??) on 0x10
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x10

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4f0 0x10
# TODO: is setting 0x89 to 0 actually necessary??
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x89
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x3b

# What is this for on 0x10?? (none of the others have this with 0x23 = 0xf012)
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4f0 0x12
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x89
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x3b


# "does something" (enables??) on 0x11
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x11

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4f0 0x10
# TODO: is setting 0x89 to 0 actually necessary??
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x89
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x3b


# "does something" (enables??) on 0x12
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x12

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4f0 0x10
# TODO: is setting 0x89 to 0 actually necessary??
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x89
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x3b


# "does something" (enables??) on 0x13
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x22
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x13

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4f0 0x10
# TODO: is setting 0x89 to 0 actually necessary??
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x89
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x500 0x26
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x3b

It would be interesting to see if you disable your service/scripts and power off, then power back on and run this.. does it work? And also if you repeat that but only run parts of it (e.g. just run the 0x38-0x3b parts vs just run the 0x10-0x13 parts) .. does it work then and/or any difference?

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Hi @nottoosmart if you are just looking to try and fetch + make + install the very latest sound tree (the for-next branch at any given time) I usually do something like this:

git clone --branch for-next --depth 1 git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git linux-sound-for-next
cd linux-sound-for-next
cp /boot/config-`uname -r`* .config
make olddefconfig
make -j `nproc --all` all # make all using all CPUs
sudo make modules_install
sudo make install

Then of course you would need to reboot and choose this new kernel using your boot selector :)

Note if your existing boot config (the one being copied from in the above) contains certificate-based module signing then you might need to disable this in the config or find and copy over the certificates etc as per the paths given in your config; one example I have given before for Debian-based distros can be seen here: https://github.com/joshuagrisham/samsung-galaxybook-extras/tree/main/driver#how-to-avoid-signature-andor-required-key-missing

Also sometimes the latest branch can have bugs that won't compile or work right--just need to be aware of that and possible try a more "stable" version (either use Torvald's mainline branch or point to a different tag or branch with the --branch parameter). Also note that in the officially released kernels, @hamfirst 's patch which includes all of the EQ settings in the driver (see all of the analysis above) was shipped with 6.11 so you could try to just get and run 6.11 if it is already available in your distro's package manager somehow.

My own tweaks to that (removing the EQ payloads so you get a little less "muddy" sound, plus potentially better battery life due to disabling the speaker amps when not in use) will come first with 6.12 when it releases in the coming weeks, so if you want to try it now then you will have to build and install it yourself, or wait until 6.12 and try it then. :)

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@joshuagrisham you seem to know a lot about the innards of this, so I was hoping you could help with the following. I've been reducing the verbs down for the Razer hardware, and in addition refactoring the kernel patch to use the WRITE_COEF structure (as directed to by Takashi Iwai, kernel bugzilla #207423).

As I understand it, WRITE_COEF always sets a single pair of coefficient index and value. However on the razer dump there are some sets of verbs with multiple coefficient values like:

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x500 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0xc000
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0x0
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0x1
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0xb031

.. and as far as my testing has shown, it really does require all those values to be written in that order.

Can you give me some guidance on how those can be represented while using WRITE_COEF, or some insight into why this might be the case?

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joshuagrisham commented Oct 1, 2024

Hi @j-m-harris
My first advice would be to read this as it helped me understand quite a bit more what is "happening" here: https://github.com/acidanthera/AppleALC/wiki/Dumping-processing-coefficients

Based on that information, I think the snippet you showed would do the following:

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x500 0x23      # set next coef index to 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0xc000    # write value 0xc000 to 0x23 (note: coef index is automatically incremented after each write, so it will be 0x24 after this..)
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0x0       # write value 0x0 to 0x24
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0x1       # write value 0x1 to 0x25
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0xb031    # write value 0xb031 to 0x26

But I also would guess that the second and last lines are wrong, and instead should look like this:

hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x500 0x23      # set next coef index to 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x4c0 0x0       # write value 0xc000 to 0x23
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0x0       # write value 0x0 to 0x24
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x400 0x1       # write value 0x1 to 0x25
hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC1D0 0x20 0x4b0 0x31      # write value 0xb031 to 0x26

(though after a quick glance at hda-verb.c my guess it is will probably work like you wrote as well)

Also what I have seen in most of these traces (including my original) is that they are getting destroyed a bit unfortunately through various "clean up" scripts that can be found online in various tutorials (where originally those devices seemed to be much more simple and less "chatty" than the new ones we are looking at here), so it becomes kind of hard to tell what is actually happening and there could be cases where important values are being removed. This is actually why I removed my original necessary-verbs.sh script in my repository (found references to it in lots of places including askubuntu, Manjaro forums, Arch forums, etc etc 😆 ) and replaced it with essentially my findings posted in comments above, and why I made the recommendations above to actually get a new set of traces which do not remove the data but instead reformat them and make all of the data available in CSV to make it a bit easier to filter and analyze (and hopefully not miss anything 😇 )

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Thank you for the pointers @joshuagrisham !

I didn't know that writing the coefficient value incremented the index, that's cleared it right up for me. Cheers.

johnny-mnemonic pushed a commit to linux-ia64/linux-stable-rc that referenced this issue Oct 7, 2024
[ Upstream commit 7e4d4b3 ]

I have done a lot of analysis for these type of devices and collaborated
quite a bit with Nick Weihs (author of the first patch submitted for this
including adding samsung_helper.c). More information can be found in the
issue on Github [1] including additional rationale and testing.

The existing implementation includes a large number of equalizer coef
values that are not necessary to actually init and enable the speaker
amps, as well as create a somewhat worse sound profile. Users have
reported "muffled" or "muddy" sound; more information about this including
my analysis of the differences can be found in the linked Github issue.

This patch refactors the "v2" version of ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP to a much
simpler implementation which removes the new samsung_helper.c, reuses more
of the existing patch_realtek.c, and sends significantly fewer unnecessary
coef values (including removing all of these EQ-specific coef values).

A pcm_playback_hook is used to dynamically enable and disable the speaker
amps only when there will be audio playback; this is to match the behavior
of how the driver for these devices is working in Windows, and is
suspected but not yet tested or confirmed to help with power consumption.

Support for models with 2 speaker amps vs 4 speaker amps is controlled by
a specific quirk name for both types. A new int num_speaker_amps has been
added to alc_spec so that the hooks can know how many speaker amps to
enable or disable. This design was chosen to limit the number of places
that subsystem ids will need to be maintained: like this, they can be
maintained only once in the quirk table and there will not be another
separate list of subsystem ids to maintain elsewhere in the code.

Also updated the quirk name from ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP2 to
ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP_V2_.. as this is not a quirk for "Amp #2" on
ALC298 but is instead a different version of how to handle it.

More devices have been added (see Github issue for testing confirmation),
as well as a small cleanup to existing names.

[1]: thesofproject/linux#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <[email protected]>
johnny-mnemonic pushed a commit to linux-ia64/linux-stable-rc that referenced this issue Oct 8, 2024
[ Upstream commit 7e4d4b3 ]

I have done a lot of analysis for these type of devices and collaborated
quite a bit with Nick Weihs (author of the first patch submitted for this
including adding samsung_helper.c). More information can be found in the
issue on Github [1] including additional rationale and testing.

The existing implementation includes a large number of equalizer coef
values that are not necessary to actually init and enable the speaker
amps, as well as create a somewhat worse sound profile. Users have
reported "muffled" or "muddy" sound; more information about this including
my analysis of the differences can be found in the linked Github issue.

This patch refactors the "v2" version of ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP to a much
simpler implementation which removes the new samsung_helper.c, reuses more
of the existing patch_realtek.c, and sends significantly fewer unnecessary
coef values (including removing all of these EQ-specific coef values).

A pcm_playback_hook is used to dynamically enable and disable the speaker
amps only when there will be audio playback; this is to match the behavior
of how the driver for these devices is working in Windows, and is
suspected but not yet tested or confirmed to help with power consumption.

Support for models with 2 speaker amps vs 4 speaker amps is controlled by
a specific quirk name for both types. A new int num_speaker_amps has been
added to alc_spec so that the hooks can know how many speaker amps to
enable or disable. This design was chosen to limit the number of places
that subsystem ids will need to be maintained: like this, they can be
maintained only once in the quirk table and there will not be another
separate list of subsystem ids to maintain elsewhere in the code.

Also updated the quirk name from ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP2 to
ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP_V2_.. as this is not a quirk for "Amp #2" on
ALC298 but is instead a different version of how to handle it.

More devices have been added (see Github issue for testing confirmation),
as well as a small cleanup to existing names.

[1]: thesofproject/linux#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <[email protected]>
johnny-mnemonic pushed a commit to linux-ia64/linux-stable-rc that referenced this issue Oct 8, 2024
[ Upstream commit 7e4d4b3 ]

I have done a lot of analysis for these type of devices and collaborated
quite a bit with Nick Weihs (author of the first patch submitted for this
including adding samsung_helper.c). More information can be found in the
issue on Github [1] including additional rationale and testing.

The existing implementation includes a large number of equalizer coef
values that are not necessary to actually init and enable the speaker
amps, as well as create a somewhat worse sound profile. Users have
reported "muffled" or "muddy" sound; more information about this including
my analysis of the differences can be found in the linked Github issue.

This patch refactors the "v2" version of ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP to a much
simpler implementation which removes the new samsung_helper.c, reuses more
of the existing patch_realtek.c, and sends significantly fewer unnecessary
coef values (including removing all of these EQ-specific coef values).

A pcm_playback_hook is used to dynamically enable and disable the speaker
amps only when there will be audio playback; this is to match the behavior
of how the driver for these devices is working in Windows, and is
suspected but not yet tested or confirmed to help with power consumption.

Support for models with 2 speaker amps vs 4 speaker amps is controlled by
a specific quirk name for both types. A new int num_speaker_amps has been
added to alc_spec so that the hooks can know how many speaker amps to
enable or disable. This design was chosen to limit the number of places
that subsystem ids will need to be maintained: like this, they can be
maintained only once in the quirk table and there will not be another
separate list of subsystem ids to maintain elsewhere in the code.

Also updated the quirk name from ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP2 to
ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP_V2_.. as this is not a quirk for "Amp #2" on
ALC298 but is instead a different version of how to handle it.

More devices have been added (see Github issue for testing confirmation),
as well as a small cleanup to existing names.

[1]: thesofproject/linux#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <[email protected]>
mj22226 pushed a commit to mj22226/linux that referenced this issue Oct 8, 2024
[ Upstream commit 7e4d4b3 ]

I have done a lot of analysis for these type of devices and collaborated
quite a bit with Nick Weihs (author of the first patch submitted for this
including adding samsung_helper.c). More information can be found in the
issue on Github [1] including additional rationale and testing.

The existing implementation includes a large number of equalizer coef
values that are not necessary to actually init and enable the speaker
amps, as well as create a somewhat worse sound profile. Users have
reported "muffled" or "muddy" sound; more information about this including
my analysis of the differences can be found in the linked Github issue.

This patch refactors the "v2" version of ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP to a much
simpler implementation which removes the new samsung_helper.c, reuses more
of the existing patch_realtek.c, and sends significantly fewer unnecessary
coef values (including removing all of these EQ-specific coef values).

A pcm_playback_hook is used to dynamically enable and disable the speaker
amps only when there will be audio playback; this is to match the behavior
of how the driver for these devices is working in Windows, and is
suspected but not yet tested or confirmed to help with power consumption.

Support for models with 2 speaker amps vs 4 speaker amps is controlled by
a specific quirk name for both types. A new int num_speaker_amps has been
added to alc_spec so that the hooks can know how many speaker amps to
enable or disable. This design was chosen to limit the number of places
that subsystem ids will need to be maintained: like this, they can be
maintained only once in the quirk table and there will not be another
separate list of subsystem ids to maintain elsewhere in the code.

Also updated the quirk name from ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP2 to
ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP_V2_.. as this is not a quirk for "Amp #2" on
ALC298 but is instead a different version of how to handle it.

More devices have been added (see Github issue for testing confirmation),
as well as a small cleanup to existing names.

[1]: thesofproject#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <[email protected]>
johnny-mnemonic pushed a commit to linux-ia64/linux-stable-rc that referenced this issue Oct 9, 2024
[ Upstream commit 7e4d4b3 ]

I have done a lot of analysis for these type of devices and collaborated
quite a bit with Nick Weihs (author of the first patch submitted for this
including adding samsung_helper.c). More information can be found in the
issue on Github [1] including additional rationale and testing.

The existing implementation includes a large number of equalizer coef
values that are not necessary to actually init and enable the speaker
amps, as well as create a somewhat worse sound profile. Users have
reported "muffled" or "muddy" sound; more information about this including
my analysis of the differences can be found in the linked Github issue.

This patch refactors the "v2" version of ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP to a much
simpler implementation which removes the new samsung_helper.c, reuses more
of the existing patch_realtek.c, and sends significantly fewer unnecessary
coef values (including removing all of these EQ-specific coef values).

A pcm_playback_hook is used to dynamically enable and disable the speaker
amps only when there will be audio playback; this is to match the behavior
of how the driver for these devices is working in Windows, and is
suspected but not yet tested or confirmed to help with power consumption.

Support for models with 2 speaker amps vs 4 speaker amps is controlled by
a specific quirk name for both types. A new int num_speaker_amps has been
added to alc_spec so that the hooks can know how many speaker amps to
enable or disable. This design was chosen to limit the number of places
that subsystem ids will need to be maintained: like this, they can be
maintained only once in the quirk table and there will not be another
separate list of subsystem ids to maintain elsewhere in the code.

Also updated the quirk name from ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP2 to
ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP_V2_.. as this is not a quirk for "Amp #2" on
ALC298 but is instead a different version of how to handle it.

More devices have been added (see Github issue for testing confirmation),
as well as a small cleanup to existing names.

[1]: thesofproject/linux#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <[email protected]>
johnny-mnemonic pushed a commit to linux-ia64/linux-stable-rc that referenced this issue Oct 10, 2024
[ Upstream commit 7e4d4b3 ]

I have done a lot of analysis for these type of devices and collaborated
quite a bit with Nick Weihs (author of the first patch submitted for this
including adding samsung_helper.c). More information can be found in the
issue on Github [1] including additional rationale and testing.

The existing implementation includes a large number of equalizer coef
values that are not necessary to actually init and enable the speaker
amps, as well as create a somewhat worse sound profile. Users have
reported "muffled" or "muddy" sound; more information about this including
my analysis of the differences can be found in the linked Github issue.

This patch refactors the "v2" version of ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP to a much
simpler implementation which removes the new samsung_helper.c, reuses more
of the existing patch_realtek.c, and sends significantly fewer unnecessary
coef values (including removing all of these EQ-specific coef values).

A pcm_playback_hook is used to dynamically enable and disable the speaker
amps only when there will be audio playback; this is to match the behavior
of how the driver for these devices is working in Windows, and is
suspected but not yet tested or confirmed to help with power consumption.

Support for models with 2 speaker amps vs 4 speaker amps is controlled by
a specific quirk name for both types. A new int num_speaker_amps has been
added to alc_spec so that the hooks can know how many speaker amps to
enable or disable. This design was chosen to limit the number of places
that subsystem ids will need to be maintained: like this, they can be
maintained only once in the quirk table and there will not be another
separate list of subsystem ids to maintain elsewhere in the code.

Also updated the quirk name from ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP2 to
ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP_V2_.. as this is not a quirk for "Amp #2" on
ALC298 but is instead a different version of how to handle it.

More devices have been added (see Github issue for testing confirmation),
as well as a small cleanup to existing names.

[1]: thesofproject/linux#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <[email protected]>
Whissi pushed a commit to Whissi/linux-stable that referenced this issue Oct 10, 2024
[ Upstream commit 7e4d4b3 ]

I have done a lot of analysis for these type of devices and collaborated
quite a bit with Nick Weihs (author of the first patch submitted for this
including adding samsung_helper.c). More information can be found in the
issue on Github [1] including additional rationale and testing.

The existing implementation includes a large number of equalizer coef
values that are not necessary to actually init and enable the speaker
amps, as well as create a somewhat worse sound profile. Users have
reported "muffled" or "muddy" sound; more information about this including
my analysis of the differences can be found in the linked Github issue.

This patch refactors the "v2" version of ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP to a much
simpler implementation which removes the new samsung_helper.c, reuses more
of the existing patch_realtek.c, and sends significantly fewer unnecessary
coef values (including removing all of these EQ-specific coef values).

A pcm_playback_hook is used to dynamically enable and disable the speaker
amps only when there will be audio playback; this is to match the behavior
of how the driver for these devices is working in Windows, and is
suspected but not yet tested or confirmed to help with power consumption.

Support for models with 2 speaker amps vs 4 speaker amps is controlled by
a specific quirk name for both types. A new int num_speaker_amps has been
added to alc_spec so that the hooks can know how many speaker amps to
enable or disable. This design was chosen to limit the number of places
that subsystem ids will need to be maintained: like this, they can be
maintained only once in the quirk table and there will not be another
separate list of subsystem ids to maintain elsewhere in the code.

Also updated the quirk name from ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP2 to
ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP_V2_.. as this is not a quirk for "Amp #2" on
ALC298 but is instead a different version of how to handle it.

More devices have been added (see Github issue for testing confirmation),
as well as a small cleanup to existing names.

[1]: thesofproject/linux#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <[email protected]>
@csylvain
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@joshuagrisham That is some pretty impressive analysis, I agree it would be preferable to get the verb list down to what is absolutely required.
@KeyStrokeVII Is your Razer Blade 14 the 2023 model, RZ09-0482? If so I expect the subsystem ID is 0x1a582020?

Yes its RZ09-0482x

Mine has ID 1a58:2021

$ alsaucm listcards
  0: hw:2
    Razer-Blade15_RZ09_0485-9.04-CH590
$ sudo lspci -vv -nn -s 0:1f.3
00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake-P/U/H cAVS [8086:51ca] (rev 01)
	DeviceName: Onboard - Sound
	Subsystem: Razer USA Ltd. Raptor Lake-P/U/H cAVS [1a58:2021]
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 32, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 218
	IOMMU group: 16
	Region 0: Memory at 62641d0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Region 4: Memory at 6264000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D3 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable+ DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
	Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?>
	Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
		Address: 00000000fee00e78  Data: 0000
	Kernel driver in use: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
	Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl

$ uname -srvmp
Linux 6.8.0-47-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Sep 27 21:40:26 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64

should i try one of the Samsung models in snd-hda-intel ?

kongwoojin pushed a commit to kongwoojin/linux-kernel that referenced this issue Oct 23, 2024
[ Upstream commit 7e4d4b3 ]

I have done a lot of analysis for these type of devices and collaborated
quite a bit with Nick Weihs (author of the first patch submitted for this
including adding samsung_helper.c). More information can be found in the
issue on Github [1] including additional rationale and testing.

The existing implementation includes a large number of equalizer coef
values that are not necessary to actually init and enable the speaker
amps, as well as create a somewhat worse sound profile. Users have
reported "muffled" or "muddy" sound; more information about this including
my analysis of the differences can be found in the linked Github issue.

This patch refactors the "v2" version of ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP to a much
simpler implementation which removes the new samsung_helper.c, reuses more
of the existing patch_realtek.c, and sends significantly fewer unnecessary
coef values (including removing all of these EQ-specific coef values).

A pcm_playback_hook is used to dynamically enable and disable the speaker
amps only when there will be audio playback; this is to match the behavior
of how the driver for these devices is working in Windows, and is
suspected but not yet tested or confirmed to help with power consumption.

Support for models with 2 speaker amps vs 4 speaker amps is controlled by
a specific quirk name for both types. A new int num_speaker_amps has been
added to alc_spec so that the hooks can know how many speaker amps to
enable or disable. This design was chosen to limit the number of places
that subsystem ids will need to be maintained: like this, they can be
maintained only once in the quirk table and there will not be another
separate list of subsystem ids to maintain elsewhere in the code.

Also updated the quirk name from ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP2 to
ALC298_FIXUP_SAMSUNG_AMP_V2_.. as this is not a quirk for "Amp #2" on
ALC298 but is instead a different version of how to handle it.

More devices have been added (see Github issue for testing confirmation),
as well as a small cleanup to existing names.

[1]: thesofproject/linux#4055 (comment)

Signed-off-by: Joshua Grisham <[email protected]>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/[email protected]
Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <[email protected]>
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