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box and in expressions (tracking issue for RFC 809) #22181

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nikomatsakis opened this issue Feb 11, 2015 · 3 comments · Fixed by #48333
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box and in expressions (tracking issue for RFC 809) #22181

nikomatsakis opened this issue Feb 11, 2015 · 3 comments · Fixed by #48333
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nikomatsakis commented Feb 11, 2015

Tracking issue for rust-lang/rfcs#809. This should be filled out with TODO items. Note that in this case there are some unsettled design questions to be resolved as well.

To do:

Unresolved questions:

@steveklabnik steveklabnik added the B-RFC-approved Blocker: Approved by a merged RFC but not yet implemented. label Feb 13, 2015
Manishearth added a commit to Manishearth/rust that referenced this issue Feb 17, 2015
…-expansion, r=huonw

 Pass features along during expansion

Use the set of passed features to detect uses of feature-gated macros without the corresponding feature enabled.

Fix rust-lang#22234.

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Also, the framework this add (passing along a reference to the features in the expansion context) is a necessary precursor for landing a properly feature-gated desugaring-based overloaded-`box` and placement-`in` (rust-lang#22181).

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This is fixing a bug, but since there might be code out there that is unknowingly taking advantage of that bug, I feel obligated to mark this as a:

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bombless added a commit to bombless/rust that referenced this issue Feb 23, 2015
…loc-and-free, r=steveklabnik

Revise `lang_item` demo to something unrelated to `Box` impl

Precursor for landing overloaded-`box`, since that will decouple the `box` syntax from the exchange heap (and should eliminate the use of the two aforementioned lang items).

Instead, the new demonstration program shows a definition of the `panic_bounds_check` lang item.

(We do not have that many procedural lang-items to choose from, which is a good sign for our efforts to decouple the compiler from the runtime!)

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Precursor for overloaded-`box` and placement-`in`; see Issue rust-lang#22181.
bors added a commit that referenced this issue Jun 3, 2015
Hack the move_val_init intrinsic to trans directly into the destination address.

This is to remove an intermediate (and unnecessary) alloca on the stack that one otherwise suffers when using this intrinsic.

This is part of the `box` protocol work; in particular, this is meant to address the `ptr::write` codegen issues alluded to at this comment: 

  #22086 (comment)

cc #22181
bors added a commit that referenced this issue Jul 24, 2015
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Macro desugaring of `in PLACE { BLOCK }` into "simpler" expressions following the in-development "Placer" protocol.

Includes Placer API that one can override to integrate support for `in` into one's own type.  (See [RFC 809].)

[RFC 809]: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/blob/master/text/0809-box-and-in-for-stdlib.md

Part of #22181

Replaced PR #26180.

Turns on the `in PLACE { BLOCK }` syntax, while leaving in support for the old `box (PLACE) EXPR` syntax (since we need to support that at least until we have a snapshot with support for `in PLACE { BLOCK }`.

(Note that we are not 100% committed to the `in PLACE { BLOCK }` syntax.  In particular I still want to play around with some other alternatives.  Still, I want to get the fundamental framework for the protocol landed so we can play with implementing it for non `Box` types.)

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Also, this PR leaves out support for desugaring-based `box EXPR`.  We will hopefully land that in the future, but for the short term there are type-inference issues injected by that change that we want to resolve separately.
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@Mark-Simulacrum Mark-Simulacrum added C-tracking-issue Category: An issue tracking the progress of sth. like the implementation of an RFC and removed C-enhancement Category: An issue proposing an enhancement or a PR with one. C-feature-request Category: A feature request, i.e: not implemented / a PR. labels Jul 22, 2017
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nikomatsakis commented Feb 21, 2018

FYI: @aidanhs has proposed to remove these features in #48333, and the proposal is being actively discussed. =)

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aidanhs commented Apr 3, 2018

Placement new is imminently about to be/has been removed as an unstable feature and the RFCs unaccepted. The approved/merged PR is at #48333 and the tracking issues were at #22181 (this issue) and #27779. Note that this does not affect box syntax.

You can find the summary comment at #27779 (comment).

Find the internals thread where you can discuss this more at https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/removal-of-all-unstable-placement-features/7223. Please add any thoughts there.

bors added a commit that referenced this issue Apr 4, 2018
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Remove all unstable placement features

Closes #22181, #27779. Effectively makes the assortment of placement RFCs (rust-lang/rfcs#470, rust-lang/rfcs#809, rust-lang/rfcs#1228) 'unaccepted'. It leaves `box_syntax` and keeps the `<-` token as recognised by libsyntax.

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I don't know the correct process for unaccepting an unstable feature that was accepted as an RFC so...here's a PR.

Let me preface this by saying I'm not particularly happy about doing this (I know it'll be unpopular), but I think it's the most honest expression of how things stand today. I've been motivated by a [post on reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/7wrqk2/when_will_box_and_placementin_syntax_be_stable/) which asks when these features will be stable - the features have received little RFC-style design work since the end of 2015 (~2 years ago) and leaving them in limbo confuses people who want to know where they're up to. Without additional design work that needs to happen (see the collection of unresolved questions later in this post) they can't really get stabilised, and I think that design work would be most suited to an RFC rather than (currently mostly unused) experimental features in Rust nightly.

I have my own motivations - it's very simple to 'defeat' placement in debug mode today and I don't want a placement in Rust that a) has no guarantees to work and b) has no plan for in-place serde deserialisation.

There's a quote in [1]: "Ordinarily these uncertainties might lead to the RFC being postponed. [The RFC seems like a promising direction hence we will accept since it] will thus give us immediate experience with the design and help in determining the best final solution.". I propose that there have been enough additional uncertainties raised since then that the original direction is less promising and we should be think about the problem anew.

(a historical note: the first mention of placement (under that name - uninit pointers were earlier) in an RFC AFAIK is [0] in late 2014 (pre-1.0). RFCs since then have built on this base - [1] is a comment in Feb 2015 accepting a more conservative design of the Place* traits - this is back when serde still required aster and seemed to break every other nightly! A lot has changed since then, perhaps placement should too)

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Concrete unresolved questions include:

 - making placement work in debug mode [7]
 - making placement work for serde/with fallible creation [5], [irlo2], [8]
 - trait design:
   - opting into not consuming the placer in `Placer::make_place` - [2]
   - trait proliferation - [4] (+ others in that thread)
   - fallible allocation - [3], [4] (+ others in that thread)
 - support for DSTs/unsized structs (if at all) - [1], [6]

More speculative unresolved questions include:

 - better trait design with in the context of future language features [irlo1] (Q11), [irlo3]
 - interaction between custom allocators and placement [irlo3]

[0] rust-lang/rfcs#470
[1] rust-lang/rfcs#809 (comment)
[2] rust-lang/rfcs#1286
[3] rust-lang/rfcs#1315
[4] #27779 (comment)
[5] #27779 (comment)
[6] #27779 (comment)
[7] #27779 (comment)
[8] rust-lang/rfcs#1228 (comment)
[irlo1] https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/placement-nwbi-faq-new-box-in-left-arrow/2789
[irlo2] https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/placement-nwbi-faq-new-box-in-left-arrow/2789/19
[irlo3] https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/lang-team-minutes-feature-status-report-placement-in-and-box/4646
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