pip ux related meeting notes

UX related (team) meeting notes

29/01/2020

Attendees

Bernard, Georgia, Sumana

Agenda

Current GH issues

Go through UX issues (from the wiki) and make sure that we understand each of them

• BT/GB do it later in detail

• SimplySecure to review the tickets and write notes in the wiki

• Understand the tagging system etc - later - do in detail, maybe Zulip

• onboarding to understand "how does pip work"

  • https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/development/getting-started/
  • https://www.pypa.io/en/latest/presentations/
  • https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/development/architecture/
  • Bernard rtfm pip readme

• At a later date schedule interviews with the maintainers.

Onboard as new-contributors

Infrastructure: What should be our testing setup be to actually look at issues? (e.g. running locally).

• is there a new contributor journey?
• understand and document new user issues and frustrations
• start with a virtual machine

Collaboration

• Zulip & irc: Are there connected rooms? What rooms/streams are the right rooms?

Can connect an irc client to Zulip > Sumana will send to Bernard, but also look for that and see if you can find the tool

Pradyun, barging in on these notes: PSF's zulip instance seems to have "IRC" stream with the "#python-dev" topic, watching Freenode's #python-dev.

Community:

IRC is usually on freenode and debian-python on OFTC

Community/outreach/office hours: spend time in IRC to begin in community (but also see "User Interviews / Participant Outreach" section below)

Maintainers:

devs/maintainers: comms via Zulip

Sumana has been sheparding all devs into zulip (not all are there yet)

Where to begin

• pip download packages
• setuptools -- part of making a package
• twine > uploadibg package to to pypi website
• warehouse > drives the db for pypi website

Documenting work

• Github: Can we have a UX project or some tags in some way on github so we're in the same ecosystem?

YES

• Should we just use the packaging-problems repo as our main place on github? Can we use issues in that repo: https://github.com/pypa/packaging-problems/issues?

• Yes go ahead and use pypa/packaging-problems.

User Interviews / Participant Outreach

Am I OK to go ahead and start doing outreach?

Pass the recruitment content via Sumana and she'll give us feedback about direct to or via Sumana.

Or should we go via Sumana/PyFo to start talking to potential users?

Where should/can we discuss this outreach?

• mailing lists

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/python-virtualenv

• blogs

https://engineering.nyu.edu/faculty/justin-cappos

• podcasts

https://talkpython.fm/

• social media

• conferences

• GitHub

• Confirm reported issues, experience them

• Looking at current development work