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BUG-898033 - Documentation clarification for DB support #853

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From: Peterson, John [email protected]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2024 4:10 PM
To: Kowalska, Kinga [email protected]
Cc: Casavant, Dave [email protected]; Chikkam, Venkata Satya Gopal [email protected]; Talbot, Adam [email protected]; Kumar, Saurabh [email protected]
Subject: CMC Documentation clarification for SRS & Databases.

Hi Kinga,

Yes, I agree with your proposed changes.

Thanks!
John

From: Kowalska, Kinga [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2024 8:15 AM
To: Peterson, John [email protected]
Cc: Casavant, Dave [email protected]; Chikkam, Venkata Satya Gopal [email protected]; Talbot, Adam [email protected]; Kumar, Saurabh [email protected]
Subject: RE: ExtMsg: Pega Containerized Deployment on OpenShift

Hi John,

For Elasticsearch:

In Search and Reporting Service Helm chart I would replace the following introduction paragraph:

The Pega Search and Reporting Service or SRS backing service can replace the embedded search feature of Pega Infinity Platform. To use it in your deployment, you provision and deploy it independently as an external service which provides search and reporting capabilities with a Pega Infinity environment.

With:

The Pega Search and Reporting Service or SRS backing service provides the search and reporting capabilities of Pega Infinity Platform. To use it in your deployment, you provision and deploy it independently as an external service in a Pega Infinity environment.

If we want to stress the message, I can add a note specifically saying “Embedded Elasticsearch service is not supported for containerized deployments.”, but this will become redundant once we cycle out of Pega Platform versions that support embedded search.

For databases:

In JDBC Configuration I can add the following sentence with a link:

Use the jdbc section of the values file to specify how to connect to the Pega database. Pega must be installed to this database before deploying on Kubernetes. For more information on supported databases and jdbc driver versions, see the Platform Support Guide.

Does this work for you?

Best regards,
Kinga Kowalska | Principal Technical Writer | Pegasystems Inc. Email: [email protected] | pega.com

From: Peterson, John [email protected]
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 3:28 PM
To: Kowalska, Kinga [email protected]
Cc: Casavant, Dave [email protected]; Chikkam, Venkata Satya Gopal [email protected]; Talbot, Adam [email protected]; Kumar, Saurabh [email protected]
Subject: RE: ExtMsg: Pega Containerized Deployment on OpenShift

Hi Kinga,

We’ve never supported running embedded search on K8S deployments, so I think the language needs to be updated, is this something you can assist with? From a database support perspective, can you also update the K8S documentation to refer the Platform Support Guide?

Thanks,
John

From: Peterson, John
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 10:03 AM
To: Panigrahy, Chinmaya [email protected]; Oleti Venkata, Nagendra [email protected]; Thota, Srinivas Maheedhar [email protected]; Chikkam, Venkata Satya Gopal [email protected]
Subject: RE: ExtMsg: Pega Containerized Deployment on OpenShift

Hi Chinmaya,

  1. Usage of existing on-premise DB : We have existing oracle database on-premise, Can we use this existing database and schemas with the containerized deployment on OpenShift ?
    Yes. https://github.com/pegasystems/pega-helm-charts/tree/master/charts/pega#url-and-driver-class

  2. Usage of embedded Kafka on OpenShift : As we are doing POC on 23.1.2 version of Pega , can we use embedded kafka & elastic search on OpenShift ?
    Embedded Kafka : Yes, but it is not recommended. https://github.com/pegasystems/pega-helm-charts/blob/1936bcfcbd0257fc047dc4390a4764a2dad6a626/charts/pega/EmbeddedStream.md#embedded-stream-with-latest-helm-chart-version
    Embedded Search : No. https://github.com/pegasystems/pega-helm-charts/tree/1936bcfcbd0257fc047dc4390a4764a2dad6a626/charts/backingservices/charts/srs#search-and-reporting-service-helm-chart

Thanks,
John

From: Peterson, John <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2024 4:10 PM
To: Kowalska, Kinga <[email protected]>
Cc: Casavant, Dave <[email protected]>; Chikkam, Venkata Satya Gopal <[email protected]>; Talbot, Adam <[email protected]>; Kumar, Saurabh <[email protected]>
Subject: CMC Documentation clarification for SRS & Databases.

Hi Kinga, 

Yes, I agree with your proposed changes.  

Thanks!
John

From: Kowalska, Kinga <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2024 8:15 AM
To: Peterson, John <[email protected]>
Cc: Casavant, Dave <[email protected]>; Chikkam, Venkata Satya Gopal <[email protected]>; Talbot, Adam <[email protected]>; Kumar, Saurabh <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: ExtMsg: Pega Containerized Deployment on OpenShift

Hi John,


For Elasticsearch:

In Search and Reporting Service Helm chart I would replace the following introduction paragraph:

The Pega Search and Reporting Service or SRS backing service can replace the embedded search feature of Pega Infinity Platform. To use it in your deployment, you provision and deploy it independently as an external service which provides search and reporting capabilities with a Pega Infinity environment.

With:

The Pega Search and Reporting Service or SRS backing service provides the search and reporting capabilities of Pega Infinity Platform. To use it in your deployment, you provision and deploy it independently as an external service in a Pega Infinity environment.

If we want to stress the message, I can add a note specifically saying “Embedded Elasticsearch service is not supported for containerized deployments.”, but this will become redundant once we cycle out of Pega Platform versions that support embedded search.


For databases:

In JDBC Configuration I can add the following sentence with a link:

Use the jdbc section of the values file to specify how to connect to the Pega database. Pega must be installed to this database before deploying on Kubernetes. For more information on supported databases and jdbc driver versions, see the Platform Support Guide.

Does this work for you?


Best regards,
Kinga Kowalska | Principal Technical Writer | Pegasystems Inc.
Email: [email protected] | pega.com
 
 



From: Peterson, John <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 3:28 PM
To: Kowalska, Kinga <[email protected]>
Cc: Casavant, Dave <[email protected]>; Chikkam, Venkata Satya Gopal <[email protected]>; Talbot, Adam <[email protected]>; Kumar, Saurabh <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: ExtMsg: Pega Containerized Deployment on OpenShift

Hi Kinga,

We’ve never supported running embedded search on K8S deployments, so I think the language needs to be updated, is this something you can assist with?
From a database support perspective, can you also update the K8S documentation to refer the Platform Support Guide?

Thanks,
John

From: Peterson, John 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 10:03 AM
To: Panigrahy, Chinmaya <[email protected]>; Oleti Venkata, Nagendra <[email protected]>; Thota, Srinivas Maheedhar <[email protected]>; Chikkam, Venkata Satya Gopal <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: ExtMsg: Pega Containerized Deployment on OpenShift

Hi Chinmaya,

1.	Usage of existing on-premise DB : We have existing oracle database on-premise, Can we use this existing database and schemas with the containerized deployment on OpenShift ?
Yes.   https://github.com/pegasystems/pega-helm-charts/tree/master/charts/pega#url-and-driver-class

2.	Usage of embedded Kafka on OpenShift : As we are doing POC on 23.1.2 version of Pega , can we use embedded kafka & elastic search on OpenShift ?
Embedded Kafka : Yes, but it is not recommended.   https://github.com/pegasystems/pega-helm-charts/blob/1936bcfcbd0257fc047dc4390a4764a2dad6a626/charts/pega/EmbeddedStream.md#embedded-stream-with-latest-helm-chart-version
Embedded Search : No.  https://github.com/pegasystems/pega-helm-charts/tree/1936bcfcbd0257fc047dc4390a4764a2dad6a626/charts/backingservices/charts/srs#search-and-reporting-service-helm-chart

Thanks,
John
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