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| # Node.js Web Team Meeting 2025-10-27 | ||
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| ## Links | ||
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| - **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/web-team/issues/56 | ||
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| ## Present | ||
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| - Aviv Keller @avivkeller | ||
| - Brian Muenzenmeyer @bmuenzenmeyer | ||
| - Matt Cowley @mattipv4 | ||
| - Augustin Mauroy @AugustinMauroy | ||
| - Claudio Wunder @ovflowd | ||
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| ## Agenda | ||
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| Extracted from **web-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting. | ||
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| ### nodejs/nodejs.org | ||
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| * Card Sort Session Results [#8234](https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/issues/8234) | ||
| * Aviv, explained what happened at the Card Sort | ||
| * Brian, we need to analyze the data and look for patterns. Take that, and propose new article layouts | ||
| * Brian, let's go over the general concerns | ||
| * The navigation is too linear, however, there are many cases where this harms the reader (i.e. when a document contains a sub-document, like "Flame Graphs") | ||
| * Aviv, explain the difficulty of getting to certain articles | ||
| * Matt, being linear shows users a general order, but we _should_ have sub-articles | ||
| * Aviv, the downside of linear articles is that things fall under multiple categories | ||
| * Brian, the learn articles look like a pathway, which they aren't really, since you don't *need* the articles to use Node.js | ||
| * Aviv, our CSS styles promote that idea that it's a pathway | ||
| * Matt, our articles are written in order (ie TypeScript) | ||
| * Aviv, No group echo-ed our current Getting Started | ||
| * Brian, a "learn hub" would be really nice | ||
| * Matt, "Parent Articles" groups would be nice for grouping | ||
| * Brian, lets cut an issue for this concern | ||
| * The order of categories prioritizes categories that might not be as helpful to the reader (i.e. Test Runner should be greater than Diagnostics) | ||
| * Matt, things are teach "new" users information are more important than advanced deep-dives | ||
| * Aviv, a good first issue is to move content around | ||
| * Many articles have their own "Intro" page, maybe a general "Intro" section would be nice? | ||
| * Brian, routing page | ||
| * A lot of articles are out-of-date, which leads to incorrect content | ||
| * Aviv, a lot of articles are *old*, and are very out of date | ||
| * Brian, this is not meant to be a MDN resource | ||
| * Matt, a quick fix is to put the file change date in the frontmatter | ||
| * Brian, a semi-annual review exists. We (the Website Team) shouldn't be the reviewers, but rather delegate to working groups | ||
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| * Aviv, maybe at the next summit we make the collaborators do some of this | ||
| * There is a lot of content, and it's doubtful that many users have read the entire thing. | ||
| * Aviv, some articles are **long** | ||
| * Matt, the content is _very_ useful, but it can be split up. | ||
| * Aviv, the article doesn't even mention `npm publish`. It should be its own section | ||
| * Matt, the "TypeScript publishing" article can reference this (as a section) | ||
| * Matt, we should be a bit more opinionated about ESM/CJS. Recommended paths and what-not. | ||
| * It would be nice to add an entire "HTTP" section, with fetch(), node:http, and the various other ways to make network requests | ||
| * New article -> New issue | ||
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| * Add lint rule ensuring that a publishing date is valid [#7845](https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/issues/7845) | ||
| * Aviv, https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/pull/7838 was meant for the future, and we published it, not knowing it wasn't supposed to be published | ||
| * Brian, should the date be content-only, or should we hide posts until a given date? | ||
| * Claudio, it's fine to keep as is | ||
| * Matt, a lint rule is a solution to a problem that shouldn't be a problem | ||
| * Aviv, it's going to cause a problem for everyone with a valid blog post | ||
| * Claudio, the _max_ we should do is a CI/CD comment | ||
| * Matt, the PR had _zero_ indication of a future date, and should have | ||
| * Brian, this is an edge case, since the content was semi-embargoed. | ||
| * Matt, the author is responsible for their own date and publishing information, unless it's a repeat problem. | ||
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| ### nodejs/web-team | ||
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| * Meeting with Microsoft Advisor [#53](https://github.com/nodejs/web-team/issues/53) | ||
| * Skipped, as the advisor could not join | ||
| * Aviv, I'll reach out privately and resolve the issue | ||
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| * Create Means for Private Communications [#14](https://github.com/nodejs/web-team/issues/14) | ||
| * Matt, leaning toward Slack channel over repository. Do even need this? | ||
| * Brian, we really don't need this that often, and the topic specific channels work fine. | ||
| * Matt, other teams do it, but they have a lot more need than we do. | ||
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| ## Q&A, Other | ||
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| * Azure Credits | ||
| * Matt, we should see what nodejs/build needs | ||
| * Claudio, we have _another_ Azure account with legacy credits, and should migrate over here. Ours are just sitting there. | ||
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| ## Upcoming Meetings | ||
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| * **Node.js Project Calendar**: <https://nodejs.org/calendar> | ||
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| Click `Add to Google Calendar` at the bottom left to add to your own Google calendar. | ||
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