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closes: #41 PR-URL: #2037 Reviewed-By: Ben Noordhuis <[email protected]>
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# Node Foundation TSC Meeting 2015-05-27 | ||
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## Links | ||
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* **Public YouTube feed**: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DPfLxulsbQ | ||
* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/41 | ||
* **Original Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KlxiQGMsJFNJu3meok9e9XFsM39k_PMnQmY_9d_cy0 | ||
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## Agenda | ||
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Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests prior to meeting. | ||
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### nodejs/node | ||
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* \[Converge\] timers: Avoid linear scan in `_unrefActive`. [#23](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/23) | ||
* \[Converge\] child_process argument type checking [#22](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/22) | ||
* \[Converge\] SSLv2/3 disable/enable related commits [#20](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/20) | ||
* doc: Add new working groups [#15](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/15) | ||
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### nodejs/io.js | ||
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* Buffer implemented using Uint8Array [#1810](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1810) | ||
* \[Discussion\] FFI - Giving Buffer more low-level C functionality [#1750](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/pull/1750) | ||
* Chrome 43 released; time for V8 4.3! [#1735](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1735) | ||
* Deprecation Policy [#1704](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1704) | ||
* TSC needs to elect a board representative. [#1697](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1697) | ||
* V8 4.4 to remove indexed properties via external data [#1451](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1451) | ||
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### joyent/node | ||
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## Present | ||
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* Alexis Campailla (TSC) | ||
* Ben Noordhuis (TSC) | ||
* Bert Belder (TSC) | ||
* Brian White | ||
* Chris Dickinson (TSC) | ||
* Colin Ihrig (TSC) | ||
* James M Snell (TSC) | ||
* Jeremiah Senkpiel (TSC) | ||
* Mikeal Rogers | ||
* Michael Dawson (TSC) | ||
* Mike Dolan (TSC) | ||
* Rod Vagg (TSC) | ||
* Shigeki Ohtsu | ||
* Trevor Norris (TSC) | ||
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## Quick stand-up | ||
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* Rod: Working on combining the build, 3.0 | ||
* James: Working on repo convergence, triaging joyent/node issues, LTS policy drafting | ||
* Shigeki: Investigating a slow tls test and SSL mitigations for a log jam attack. | ||
* Jeremiah: Lots of little things | ||
* Colin: Libuv work for os.homedir() | ||
* Chris: Removing sys, checking breakage; fixing bug I introduced in persistent history | ||
* Bert: Looking at issues | ||
* Alexis: Working on combining the build, fixing windows issues | ||
* Trevor: Working on the new Buffer impl using Uint8Array | ||
* Michael: Traging joyent/node, spun up the benchmarking WG, looking into adding powerpc build machines | ||
* Brian: Almost done the pure JS dns resolver, all tests are passing | ||
* Ben: | ||
- Make require faster | ||
- Date.now() perf improvements | ||
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## Review of last meeting | ||
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* _Skipping_ | ||
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## Minutes | ||
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### \[Converge\] timers: Avoid linear scan in `_unrefActive`. [#23](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/23) | ||
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* James: conflicting approaches in both repos | ||
* Ben: both are terrible under different workloads - do away with the code and start again | ||
* Jeremiah: might have a go at it, working off an existing heap impl by Ben (ACTION) | ||
* Bert: some problems with http - discussion happened about the implementation | ||
* Chris: would be good to have Julien’s input since he was active on the joyent/node impl | ||
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### \[Converge\] child_process argument type checking [#22](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/22) | ||
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* James: arg checking merged in 0.10 after the fork | ||
* Discussion about why this wasn’t merged to io.js | ||
* Defer back to GitHub discussion after no reason for not merging could be found on the call | ||
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### \[Converge\] SSLv2/3 disable/enable related commits [#20](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/20) | ||
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* James: SSLv2/3 removed in io.js, merging these commits would involve reverting | ||
* Jeremiah proposed 0.12 being the LTS for SSLv2/3 support | ||
* Rod: are we happy killing this off? | ||
* Michael: we don’t know how extensively it’s being used? | ||
* James: pending research into that question we’ll leave this alone, come back if there’s a compelling reason to revert | ||
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### doc: Add new working groups [#15](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/15) | ||
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* Michael: Benchmarking and Post Mortem Debugging working groups are ready and have started, i18n group needs a bit more work to get off the ground | ||
* Group didn’t see any reason not to go forward with these groups, they have repos and can be in an “incubating” state for now | ||
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### Buffer implemented using Uint8Array [#1810](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1810) | ||
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* Trevor: Buffer using Uint8Array is now working, all applicable tests pass, currently behind a flag: | ||
* Trevor Questions: | ||
- Are we going with v8 4.3 or 4.4? | ||
- If we go v8 4.3, do we want to release behind a flag? | ||
- we still want an upper kMaxlength Buffer size limit? | ||
* Ben: Buffer size limit should be safe to remove | ||
* Rod: 4.3 and 4.4 both contain major breakage for native addons | ||
* Discussed if we would like to delay 3.0 until v8 4.4 | ||
* Rod: no appetite here for delaying a 3.0 with 4.3, take discussion on that back to GitHub | ||
* Ben: suggested we release new Buffer impl with a flag to revert to old impl, Jeremiah seconded | ||
* Discussed how hard it would be to land and review | ||
* Fedor: how does it work with 32bit numbers? | ||
* Trevor: It acts the same as before | ||
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### \[Discussion\] FFI - Giving Buffer more low-level C functionality [#1750](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/pull/1750) | ||
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* Trevor: concerns about being able to write to buffers and execute arbitrary code | ||
* Rod: concerned about changing the nature of what Node _is_ and the safety it exposes | ||
* Ben suggested that we move this new work to an ffi module rather than hanging it off Buffer | ||
- Group agreed to take this suggestion back to the issue for discussion | ||
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### Chrome 43 released; time for V8 4.3! [#1735](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1735) | ||
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* Concerns about deps forcing semver-major, the C++ API changes are big enough to warrant this though | ||
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### Deprecation Policy [#1704](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1704) | ||
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* Discussion dividing into two camps - conservative camp and those who want to test the size of the impact on the ecosystem | ||
* Suggestion (Michael?) that we use LTS releases to determine when things get properly removed | ||
* Discussed why we want a deprecation policy | ||
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### TSC needs to elect a board representative. [#1697](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1697) | ||
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* Deferred till next meeting - need to nominate and vote someone in to this role and should discuss how we want to structure the role in terms of rotation | ||
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### V8 4.4 to remove indexed properties via external data [#1451](https://github.com/nodejs/io.js/issues/1451) | ||
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* Nothing to discuss, rolled up in to Buffer discussion earlier | ||
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## Next meeting | ||
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* June 3rd, 8PM UTC |