Node.js Foundation Core Technical Committee (CTC) Meeting 2017-04-05

[Trott]

Time

UTC Wed 05-Apr-2017 20:00 (08:00 PM):

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Links

• Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pJoUGqOfNt4cVjLyPxJzfw3M509R7L-IQfXkHUDrp0Q
• Previous Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1THcTgfn42h3OSWAcVVew8IsUCjA25GaTmiNoV2p2Vhw

Agenda

• Remove Legacy Debugger for 8.0.0

Invited

• Anna Henningsen @addaleax (CTC)
• Bradley Meck @bmeck (observer/GoDaddy/TC39)
• Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC)
• Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (CTC)
• Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC)
• Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC)
• Franziska Hinkelmann @fhinkel (CTC)
• Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC)
• Tracy Hinds @hackygolucky (observer/Node.js Foundation)
• Fedor Indutny @indutny (CTC)
• James M Snell @jasnell (CTC)
• Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft)
• Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC)
• Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC)
• Mikeal Rogers @mikeal (observer/Node.js Foundation)
• Brian White @mscdex (CTC)
• Myles Borins @MylesBorins (CTC)
• Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC)
• Jenn Turner @renrutnnej (observer/Node.js Foundation)
• Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC)
• Seth Thompson @s3ththompson (observer/Google)
• Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki (CTC)
• Steven R Loomis @srl295 (observer/IBM/ICU)
• Michaël Zasso @targos (CTC)
• Sakthipriyan Vairamani @thefourtheye (CTC)
• Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC)
• Rich Trott @Trott (CTC)

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with ctc-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

Uberconference; participants should have the link & numbers, contact me if you don't.

Public participation

We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators in particular if there's anything you need from the CTC that's not worth putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for it.

[Trott]

Good news: No issues labeled ctc-agenda!

Bad news: 17 (!!!) issues labeled ctc-review! While we should certainly resolve as many of them as possible without elevating them to a meeting, maybe there are one or two particularly thorny issues that might benefit from putting on the agenda. (New error system proposed by @jasnell, I am looking in your direction!)

Additionally, I'm not sure if there are any final details or decisions that need to be reviewed/made related to debugger in 8.0.0. Paging @joshgav and @ofrobots.

Here are the ctc-review issues/PRs:

• module: remove require('.') with NODE_PATH compat
• http: don't inherit from Object.prototype
• Collaborator nominations
• errors, process: port internal/process errors to internal/errors
• errors: assign error code to bootstrap_node created error
• errors, child_process: migrate to using internal/errors
• process: implement resourceUsage()
• linkedlist: remove unused methods Landed
• doc: add active, enroll and unenroll
• async_hooks initial implementation
• stream: move prefixed files into internal/streams.
• src, buffer: add --pending-deprecation flag
• module: add support for abi stable module API (edit by @addaleax: landed!)
• lib,src: exit process on unhandled promise rejection cleanup
• fs: Optimizations 3: The Revenge
• linkedlist: remove public module Landed
• Emeritus status for CTC

[Trott]

At the request of @MylesBorins, adding Remove Legacy Debugger for 8.0.0 to the agenda. We now have one agenda item. But it's potentially a big one. (Hopefully not a ton of controversy, but lots of moving parts to catch up on.)

[jasnell]

It is possible that I will have to miss this weeks call as I will be on the way to San Francisco International on route to Barcelona. There are a number of items that will need to be discussed in relation to 8.0.0, however, so I will do my absolute best to join at least part of the call.

[joshgav]

It may help the Debugger discussion to review the notes from the last Diag WG meeting:

• https://github.com/nodejs/diagnostics/blob/master/wg-meetings/2017-03-23.md#inspector-make-debug-an-alias-for-inspect-node11441
• https://github.com/nodejs/diagnostics/blob/master/wg-meetings/2017-03-23.md#wip-inspector-hint-text-update-11207

[bnoordhuis]

I don't have much of a voice left so I don't think I'll be joining but I'm +1 on putting the old debugger out to pasture.

[targos]

I will be a little late.

[joshgav]

notes in #95