Italian language update#33
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Thanks so much, bovirus — I really appreciate the time you've put in, and your Italian ships in the next version (v1.9.1), credited to you. How I work it: I apply your wording by hand rather than merging the PR, keeping the final text in line with the app's voice and the exact intent of each string. So you know, here's what of yours I didn't take:
I'll close the PR, but your translation is very much in the release. Thank you again. Here's the same in machine-translated Italian!
Grazie mille, bovirus. Apprezzo davvero il tempo che ci hai dedicato, e la tua traduzione italiana sarà nella prossima versione (v1.9.1), con il tuo contributo riconosciuto. Come procedo: inserisco le tue traduzioni manualmente invece di fare il merge della PR, mantenendo il testo finale coerente con lo stile dell'app e con il significato esatto di ogni stringa. Per tua informazione, ecco cosa del tuo lavoro non ho usato:
Chiuderò la PR, ma la tua traduzione è senz'altro nella release. Grazie ancora. |
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"About" is quite generic text. The translation can have different strings for language not english that can differ by context. "About" in "italian" is Info applicazione" Sorry but I didn't understand the issue about the installer. I tested the installer with my changes and it works as expected. What are the parts of installer that are not compatible with your build configuration? I used more #define field/variable for an esy script maintenace without change directly in the body of the script. Year "2026" is fixed instead use Current year automatic detection (no need to change in 2027 etc) In the copyright message "Copyright (c)" are not necessary because "Copyright" is already the field title in File properties. What's abouut newline code in xml file? |
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Thanks, @bovirus — here's the full picture, honestly. About: first, your general point - you're right that a translation can need to differ by context (gender, number) and that reusing one string across contexts is bad for translation. But that isn't happening here: the "About" button and the "About" window title are already separate resource keys, so each can be translated independently if it ever needs to - they're both "Informazioni" only because that's the right word for both, not because anything forces them to share. On the word itself: for an About window "Informazioni" is the established convention in Italian software (both Windows and macOS use it), so it's what users recognise; "Info applicazione" is accurate literally but isn't the standard. So I'm keeping "Informazioni". Installer - I've taken the good parts and left the ones that would break or aren't needed. Taken:
Left as-is, with reasons:
CLI: I do want an Italian CLI, and thank you for translating it. It's its own piece of work - I need to decide when it switches language (the CLI is used in automation, so its output is partly a contract), and its messages are precise and technical, so they need a careful pass against the exact meaning of each one. So I'll do it properly as a next step rather than rush it into this release, but your translations are the starting point. Thanks again - your GUI translation is in and ships in v1.9.1. Grazie, bovirus — ecco il quadro completo, in modo onesto. About: prima il tuo punto generale - hai ragione che una traduzione può dover cambiare in base al contesto (genere, numero) e che riutilizzare la stessa stringa in contesti diversi è una cattiva pratica per la traduzione. Ma qui non succede: il pulsante "About" e il titolo della finestra "About" sono già due chiavi di risorsa separate, quindi ognuna può essere tradotta in modo indipendente, se mai dovesse servire - sono entrambe "Informazioni" solo perché è la parola giusta per entrambe, non perché qualcosa le obblighi a coincidere. Sulla parola in sé: per una finestra About, "Informazioni" è la convenzione consolidata nel software italiano (la usano sia Windows sia macOS), quindi è ciò che gli utenti riconoscono; "Info applicazione" è corretto alla lettera ma non è lo standard. Quindi mantengo "Informazioni". Installer - ho preso le parti buone e lasciato quelle che romperebbero qualcosa o non servono. Prese:
Lasciate come sono, con le motivazioni:
CLI: voglio davvero una CLI in italiano, e ti ringrazio per averla tradotta. È un lavoro a sé - devo decidere quando cambia lingua (la CLI è usata nell'automazione, quindi il suo output è in parte un contratto), e i suoi messaggi sono precisi e tecnici, quindi serve un controllo attento rispetto al significato esatto di ciascuno. Quindi lo farò come passo successivo, fatto bene, senza forzarlo in questa release, ma le tue traduzioni sono il punto di partenza. Grazie ancora - la tua traduzione della GUI è inclusa e arriva nella v1.9.1. |
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values like AppPublisher=No Faff Could be defined as defined command (easy to revise/change). The values like UsePreviousLanguage=no it's really necessary because if you add a new language the new installer withouth these strings didn't detect new language an start by default with previous language instalelr selection. |
…re-detect the wizard language each run 'No Faff' appeared in four directives (AppPublisher, VersionInfoCompany, both copyright lines) and the repo URL in two; a #define each makes them a single source of truth. UsePreviousLanguage=no makes the wizard re-detect the language each run instead of reusing the previous install's pick, so a language added in a later version becomes the default for an upgrading user whose OS matches it (the dialog still lists them all). Both suggested by bovirus (#33). Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Thanks, @bovirus. I've taken two of these:
On the About title, I'm keeping "Informazioni". Chrome and Firefox use "Informazioni su [name]" because their English is "About [name]"; InstallerClean's English is just "About", so "Informazioni" is the matching choice. If the English ever becomes "About InstallerClean", the Italian will follow. Thanks again for the Italian. Grazie, bovirus. Ne ho accolte due:
Sul titolo della finestra Informazioni: mantengo "Informazioni". Chrome e Firefox usano "Informazioni su [nome]" perché in inglese è "About [nome]"; in InstallerClean l'inglese è solo "About", quindi "Informazioni" è la scelta corrispondente. Se un giorno l'inglese diventasse "About InstallerClean", l'italiano seguirà. Grazie ancora per l'italiano. |
Adds the 1.9.1 entries that shipped but were not yet recorded: - installer: the publisher name and repo URL are single-sourced via a #define each, and UsePreviousLanguage=no re-detects the wizard language every run so a later-added setup language matches Windows on upgrade. Both suggested by bovirus (#33). - the window title-bar text and the splash no longer clip at large text sizes: the title used the scaled heading token while the caption bar stayed fixed, and the splash had a fixed height the enlarged base text outgrew. Also credits bovirus's Italian review on the Italian-interface entry (#32). Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
…re-detect the wizard language each run 'No Faff' appeared in four directives (AppPublisher, VersionInfoCompany, both copyright lines) and the repo URL in two; a #define each makes them a single source of truth. UsePreviousLanguage=no makes the wizard re-detect the language each run instead of reusing the previous install's pick, so a language added in a later version becomes the default for an upgrading user whose OS matches it (the dialog still lists them all). Both suggested by bovirus (#33). Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
Adds the 1.9.1 entries that shipped but were not yet recorded: - installer: the publisher name and repo URL are single-sourced via a #define each, and UsePreviousLanguage=no re-detects the wizard language every run so a later-added setup language matches Windows on upgrade. Both suggested by bovirus (#33). - the window title-bar text and the splash no longer clip at large text sizes: the title used the scaled heading token while the caption bar stayed fixed, and the splash had a fixed height the enlarged base text outgrew. Also credits bovirus's Italian review on the Italian-interface entry (#32). Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>


@FarmLox
What this changes
Add Italian language (GUI and installer)
Improve instalelr.
I hope that now is ok.
Proposal for the future
Please apply PR before to modify source structure.
It avoid to repush the PR.
New line command for long string multipèeriod
Please consider to add "& # x 0 a ;" to have a new line to separate paragraph.
Thanks.