send without notification is not obvious enough

[gerbrent]

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Attempting to send messages via "Send without notification" no longer works.
ERR... wait, is this now a toggle?

Steps to reproduce

1. type message
2. select "Send without notification"
3. message does not send (previously it would send when you selected "Send without notification"

Expected behaviour

The message sends, silently for the recipient.

Actual behaviour

Now the option toggles to "Send with notification" but the user only discovers the behaviour change if selecting the ... menu again?

Suggest:

• either the behaviour return to previous behaviour
• or have an indicator appear that message notification silence is now enabled.

Talk app

Talk app version: (see apps admin page: /index.php/settings/apps)

• Nextcloud Server version 29.0.0 RC2
• Nextcloud Talk version 19.0.0-rc.2

Custom Signaling server configured: yes/no and version (see additional admin settings: /index.php/index.php/settings/admin/talk#signaling_server)

Custom TURN server configured: yes/no (see additional admin settings: /index.php/settings/admin/talk#turn_server)

Custom STUN server configured: yes/no (see additional admin settings: /index.php/settings/admin/talk#stun_server)

Browser

Microphone available: yes/no

Camera available: yes/no

Operating system: Windows/Ubuntu/...
NixOS/Linux

Browser name: Firefox/Chrome/...
Firefox

Browser version: 85/96/...
124.0.1

Browser log

``` Insert your browser log here, this could for example include: a) The javascript console log b) The network log c) ... ```

Server configuration

Operating system: Ubuntu/RedHat/...

Web server: Apache/Nginx

Database: MySQL/Maria/SQLite/PostgreSQL

PHP version: 8.0/8.1/8.2

Nextcloud Version: (see admin page)

• Nextcloud Server version 29.0.0 RC2

List of activated apps:

If you have access to your command line run e.g.:
sudo -u www-data php occ app:list
from within your server installation folder

Nextcloud configuration:

If you have access to your command line run e.g.:
sudo -u www-data php occ config:list system
from within your Nextcloud installation folder

Server log (data/nextcloud.log)

Insert your server log here

[nickvergessen]

either the behaviour return to previous behaviour

That's not an option, as we fixed 2 other complaints with the fix.

or have an indicator appear that message notification silence is now enabled.

The send icon seems to change, but I agree it's quite subtle.
Could add a "Switch" icon to the popup

[gerbrent]

you're right, I never noticed the Send icon changed! That's a good solution, but agree w making it more obvious.

[SystemKeeper]

While this issue was improved in #12109, it’s still very hard to notice in day-to-day usage. Now the setting is locally saved, so you easily end up in a situation where you send multiple messages as silent, also not intended.

[DorraJaouad]

• Disable silent sent after switching a conversation
  (if there is no draft in the chat input)
• Make the button (to send as silent) more visible, e.g., with a different color, and also when chat input is empty (voice recording symbol shows)
• Always show the "silent sent" icon when enabled
• Change new message placeholder?
• Show indicator on the message when it was sent silently by others (in place of read-marker?) and for own messages show it in buttons menu of the message