[gtk] add wayland support on linux#51039
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@microsoft-github-policy-service agree |
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apparently the wayland version by the wayland distro in the CI is too old. What should be the fix here? |
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| set(OPTIONS -Dwayland-backend=false) # CI missing at least wayland-protocols | ||
| set(wayland true) |
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Why this should be always enabled by default? It is still possible to build GTK with X11 backend, and thus this port should give a possibility to do that, and not just hardcode Wayland for Linux
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Well, currently x11 is also hardcoded for linux. When enabling wayland that does not disable x11, it just enables both backends. So on a X11 desktop GTK would pick the x11 backend, on a wayland desktop the wayland backend (currently it quits there).
Ideally we'd want VCPKG features for the backend selection, but in general this port currently lacks any proper feature support. E.g. vulkan, opengl etc. should also be selectable.
To me it seemed like this is out of scope of this PR
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By this change you will force all applications to build (or install) Wayland even if they don't use it, so this is a breaking change. Also can you confirm that with Wayland backend application will switch to X11 when there is not Wayland support and what is more important will not require installing anything additional?
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I can confirm this since i've used Gtk (without VCPKG) for years. The automatic backend selection is the default behaviour unless explicitly set: https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/running.html#gdk_backend
This port not having features forces a lot of restrictions. My distro has no X11 support, still this port forces me to build & compile the x11 backend.
If majority wants me to pull this out as a feature I'll do so, but then the other backends should be "optional" aswell
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And in this port you explicitly wet it to use Wayland. I do know that on Wayland X11 applications can run because Wayland provides a special mediator library.
I'm not sure this will work other way around when you build an application setting a Wayland backend that ill fall back to X11 if Wayland is not present.
To clarify: I'm ok to have Wayland a defaul backend, but there should be a possibility to configure this port to use some other backend.
If majority wants me to pull this out as a feature I'll do so, but then the other backends should be "optional" aswell
This is basically up to maintainers to decide.
However, the only 'other' backend is broadway, since macos is MacOs specific, and win32 is Windows specific.
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These are things I believe to be true:
- Wayland is the future of graphics on Linux. Most distros currently ship with Wayland by default.
- Fedora since 25: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/configuring-xorg-as-default-gnome-session/
- Ubuntu doesn't seem to document so easily but random googling suggests since at least 24.Xxx . See also https://itsfoss.com/news/ubuntu-25-10-wayland-only/
- Debian 10 and later https://wiki.debian.org/Xorg . Note that the GTK Debian packages ( https://packages.debian.org/sid/libgtk-4-1 ) depend on both X and Wayland.
- As a result of the above, X11 outside of "compatibility modes" is dying. It's certainly dying as an expected end user configuration.
There is some time where we would have had to change the backend we choose out of the box, and now that all of the major distros are done so, I think we should. I understand that is exceedingly unfortunate for @AenBleidd 's use case where vcpkg was building all of the X related libraries he needs, but given the GTK maintainer's statement linked above ( gtk-rs/gtk4-rs#1963 (comment) ) that seems like a strong statement that is not the expected user base from their perspective.
EDIT: But if even Ubuntu 22.04 "Noble"'s Wayland is too old we might have no good options?
To that end, I think we should change this to Wayland and/or both. portfile.cmake can have an option or something to make it easy for folks in @AenBleidd 's scenario to maintain an overlay port.
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I'm not happy with that but that's fair enough. My suggestion would be at least to announce it somewhere before merging that people are aware beforehand and not just awake in the morning to see all their builds failed not knowing what they need to do next to fix them all (I know about version pinning but let's be honest: it doesn't really work since you cannot fix a particular version of particular library without affecting other libraries).
Anyway, @BillyONeal, thank you for the detailed analysis and sorry for any possible mess.
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@BillyONeal, a little piece of information for you.
When I last tried to build Wayland (like really build without system packages installed), it was failed due to broken ports (see my comment here).
Not sure how much this is relevant now but worth taking a look I support since you want to enforce Wayland.
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I guess technically we could make them features and pick one with default-features. That might be slightly less painful for you but default features get forced on everywhere...
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When I last tried to build Wayland (like really build without system packages installed), it was failed due to broken ports (see my comment #49620 (comment)).
I agree that this is unfortunate but I think this entire "try to build X or Wayland yourself in vcpkg" scenario is a niche of a niche and that the majority of our Linux customers are going to want a GTK that works out of the box with their distro. (Which is consistent with our requiring a specific triplet variable to be turned on to make those ports do anything)
We are using Ubuntu 22.04 "Noble Numbat". Is that really too old or is it just that we didn't install something? |
i am not really sure to be honest, that's why i did a PR updating wayland in in #51042 |
Our understanding with all these windowing components on *nix is that it is not usually desired or practical for users to build them themselves as
If 24.04's Wayland is too old then while I broadly agree with the direction I think changing it entirely will have to wait for 26.04 "Resolute Raccoon" which hopefully has one new enough. That comes out later this month but it is likely to be a bit before we can adopt it as a few other big dependencies like CUDA have to update too. In the meantime, please consider changing this to make Wayland an off by default feature, and X11 a default feature. (I understand that we said we discourage default features, and we still do, but the existence of an environment variable to select this makes it look like this just barely threads the "libarchive needle") To that end it probably would be a good idea to audit all users of |
Fixes #51038
./vcpkg x-add-version --alland committing the result.