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When devicestate is discarded, loadFromDisk() tries to recover owner fields from our own NodeDB row:

installDefaultDeviceState();
const meshtastic_NodeInfoLite *us = getMeshNode(getNodeNum());

installDefaultDeviceState() calls pickNewNodeNum(), whose own comment reads // based on macaddr now. But config — which holds security.public_key, the thing that determines our real node number — is not loaded until later in the same function. So the lookup probes a MAC-derived provisional number while our row lives at crc32(public_key), and normally misses. Owner/call-sign/licence state is lost to factory defaults even though the correct values are on disk.

This is a regression from key-derived node numbers: before them, the MAC-derived number was the self key, so this safety net worked.

Why not "just read index 0"

Self is pinned to index 0 by nodeDBSelfCare() — but that runs after loadFromDisk() returns, so at recovery time index 0 is only whatever the on-disk file's first record happens to be. Usually self; not for a legacy-migrated DB (order copied verbatim), a cloned image, a restored backup, or a test fixture. Trusting it would paste a stranger's long_name and is_licensed call-sign flag onto our owner and persist it — worse than the current miss. There is already an in-tree comment warning about exactly this.

Approach

Defer the recovery until after config load and match on crc32Buffer(config.security.public_key) — the same derivation used elsewhere for our identity. Safe by construction: a DB that does not contain us is a clean miss, not a wrong-identity restore. Keyless/pre-PKI builds keep the old probe.

Scope note

The miss applies to the decode-failure / absent devicestate path. On the version < DEVICESTATE_MIN_VER path devicestate decoded fine, so my_node_num survives and the original lookup does hit. The fix is correct for both.

Validation

  • Compile-checked on heltec-v4 (ESP32-S3) against a clean baseline build of the same environment.
  • All 11 fixes from this review merge without conflict and the combined tree compiles on both heltec-v4 and seeed-xiao-s3.
  • Native unit tests were not run locally — the harness is Linux-only (bin/run-tests.sh refuses off-Linux) and bin/test-native-docker.sh needs Docker, which was unavailable on the dev host. Relying on CI for the native suite.
  • No on-hardware validation yet.

Found during an adversarial review of deriving NodeNum from the node public key. Filed as a draft for maintainer judgement.

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Summary by CodeRabbit

  • Bug Fixes
    • Improved recovery when device state is missing or invalid during startup.
    • Restores the correct device identity and owner information from saved records.
    • Preserves factory ownership when no matching record is available.
    • Supports recovery for devices with or without security keys.
    • Prevents incorrect numbering and safely limits restored device names.
    • Saves repaired state for future startups.
    • Improves contact recency tracking when the device clock is unavailable.
    • Updated Bluetooth and notification defaults for supported TFT devices.

Integration test on hardware

This fix was included in an integration branch of all 11 review fixes (merged with no conflicts) and flashed to two boards from erased flash:

  • Seeed XIAO ESP32-S3 and Heltec V4, both 2.8.0.684f6b1

Result: both booted, LoRa init OK, region set applied, config persisted across power-cycle, and the two nodes discovered and verified each other over the air.

Check XIAO Heltec
Fresh boot, region UNSET, MAC-derived node num 0x1dd29d30 0xb29fb324
After region set (no reboot), my_node_num == crc32(public_key) 0x4dc9fb0f 0xd71bb46a
Node number survives power-cycle
Peer sees and verifies the other node

Every config write in that sequence goes through SafeFilesaveProto(), and all of them succeeded, persisted across reboot, and triggered no spurious fsFormat().

Note

The integration run above is a regression smoke test — it proves this change does not break normal operation on real hardware. It does not exercise the specific defect fixed here, which needs a condition that cannot be induced with two bench nodes. That part remains verified by code inspection and, once CI runs, by the native suite.

When devicestate is missing, corrupt or too old, loadFromDisk() installs
defaults and then tries to salvage the owner fields from our own NodeDB
entry. That salvage normally does not hit.

installDefaultDeviceState() calls pickNewNodeNum(), and loadProto() has
just zeroed devicestate - myNodeInfo.my_node_num along with it - so the
only number available is the macaddr-derived provisional one. Our actual
row is stored under crc32(security.public_key), and config is not read
until further down loadFromDisk(). The lookup therefore probes a number
that is not ours, and nodeInfoLiteHasUser() is false, so the entire
recovery block is skipped. (Coincidental equality with the provisional
number is possible, so the probe can hit by chance - it just normally
does not.)

This is a regression introduced by key-derived node numbers. Before the
node number was derived from the public key, the macaddr-derived number
WAS our identity, so the probe found us and the safety net worked. Key
derivation moved the row without moving the lookup, and the net has been
silently dead since. The consequence is that owner state - long_name,
short_name, the is_licensed call-sign flag and is_unmessagable - is lost
to factory defaults on every devicestate reset, even though the correct
values are sitting intact in nodes.proto.

Defer the recovery until after the config load, past the backupSecurity
restore that is the last thing able to replace config.security, and look
up crc32(public_key) - the identity the rest of the system uses. Keyless
and pre-PKI builds keep probing the provisional number, which is correct
for them.

Recovering positionally from nodeDatabase index 0 was considered and
rejected. nodeDBSelfCare() does pin self to index 0, but it runs from
the constructor AFTER loadFromDisk() has returned, so at recovery time
index 0 is simply whatever row the file happened to start with: legacy
migration copies the old file's order verbatim, and a nodes.proto from a
foreign image or test fixture starts with that device's own row. Nothing
in scope at that point can tell the difference, because owner was just
wiped and config is not loaded yet. Matching on identity keeps a DB that
does not contain us a clean miss rather than pasting another node's name
and call-sign flag onto our owner.

getMeshNode() returns NULL on an empty DB, so the no-nodes case needs no
separate guard. The long_name bound (owner.long_name is 40, the lite
source 25) is preserved, plus an explicit clampLongName() now that the
copy lands after the clamp that used to follow it.

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NodeDB now defers owner recovery until security configuration loads, tracks node recency across untrusted-clock periods, preserves stored public keys, updates firmware and TFT defaults, and avoids logging private keys.

Changes

NodeDB identity and recency updates

Layer / File(s) Summary
Deferred owner recovery
src/mesh/NodeDB.h, src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp, test/test_nodedb_blocked/test_main.cpp
Owner recovery uses the loaded security public key or a provisional node number. It restores matching owner data, clamps the long name, and persists successful recovery. Tests cover recovery and miss paths.
Clock-aware recency and eviction
src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp, test/test_nodedb_blocked/test_main.cpp
NodeDB stores uptime recency while the clock is untrusted, backfills epoch timestamps after synchronization, and uses the recency abstraction for eviction. Tests cover current-boot and persisted timestamps.
Contact and device-state handling
src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp, .trunk/trunk.yaml
The implementation preserves stored public keys when contacts omit them, initializes firmware edition before CRC checks, updates TFT defaults, removes private-key logging, and suppresses a test secret-scanner false positive.

Estimated code review effort: 3 (Moderate) | ~30 minutes

Merge Risk: 🔵 Low · up to 8d263

The change restores owner fields using the node number derived from the loaded public key, reducing the risk of incorrect factory-default recovery. Keyless recovery and stale recency behavior remain bounded correctness concerns that should receive explicit owner awareness or follow-up, but they do not currently require blocking the merge.

Sequence Diagram(s)

sequenceDiagram
  participant DeviceState
  participant NodeDB
  participant SecurityConfig
  participant OwnerRow
  DeviceState->>NodeDB: mark owner recovery pending
  SecurityConfig->>NodeDB: provide loaded public key
  NodeDB->>OwnerRow: derive node number and query owner row
  OwnerRow-->>NodeDB: return owner fields
  NodeDB->>DeviceState: persist recovered owner
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src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp (1)

2448-2452: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Shorten the recovery comments.

Keep each comment to one or two lines. Put detailed recovery behavior in the code structure or commit documentation.

  • src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp#L2448-L2452: reduce the deferred-recovery explanation to the configuration-ordering reason.
  • src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp#L2566-L2570: reduce the identity-lookup explanation to the key-derived NodeNum reason.

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In `@src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp` around lines 2448 - 2452, Shorten the recovery comments
in src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp at lines 2448-2452 and 2566-2570 to one or two lines
each: retain only the configuration-ordering reason at the first site and the
key-derived NodeNum reason at the second, removing detailed recovery behavior
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lines 2448-2452 and 2566-2570 to one or two lines each: retain only the
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Repo guideline (AGENTS.md): keep code comments to one or two lines. Keeps the
config-ordering reason at the first site and the key-derived NodeNum reason at
the second; the rest is in the commit message.

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Thanks — fixed in the latest push.

Verified the guideline is real before acting on it (AGENTS.md:83, .github/copilot-instructions.md:339). Both comment blocks are now two lines:

  • NodeDB.cpp (deferral site) — keeps only the config-ordering reason: our real NodeNum comes from config.security.public_key, still unread at that point.
  • NodeDB.cpp (recovery site) — keeps only the key-derived NodeNum reason, plus the one genuinely non-obvious consequence: matching on identity makes a nodes.proto that doesn't contain us a clean miss rather than a wrong-owner restore.

That second clause is the reason this PR doesn't simply read index 0, so I kept it — dropping it would leave the next reader wondering why the obvious approach wasn't taken. Everything else moved to the commit message.

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Reviewed as part of a sweep of the PRs you opened over the last 48 hours.

The defect is real, and the reasoning for matching on crc32(public_key) rather than trusting index 0 is correct — legacy-migrated, cloned, restored-backup and test-fixture databases are exactly why index 0 can't be trusted before nodeDBSelfCare() runs.

Three things before this lands.

  1. CodeRabbit already asked for the comment fix and it wasn't done. Its review on this PR flagged src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp L2448-2452 and L2566-2570, quoting the project rule verbatim: "Keep code comments minimal—one or two lines maximum." Both blocks are still there. AGENTS.md:83 and .github/copilot-instructions.md:340 are the canonical statement of that rule, and they are the first files an agent working in this repo is expected to read.

  2. The reordering is unanalysed. You move the owner recovery roughly 135 lines later in loadFromDisk(), from just after installDefaultDeviceState() to just after the config load. Anything between those two points that reads owner now sees factory defaults where it previously saw recovered values. The PR doesn't enumerate what that is — that needs walking, not asserting.

  3. clampLongName() is a new call on this path, not part of the reported defect. It may well be correct, but it's a behaviour addition riding along inside a fix. Call it out explicitly or split it.

No test, and this is natively testable: test_nodedb_blocked already carries a NodeDB shim with seedSelf() and hot-store push helpers. A discarded-devicestate plus populated-nodes.proto fixture pins both the hit and, more importantly, the clean miss — the property your "safe by construction" argument rests on.


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The deferred owner-recovery block in loadFromDisk() had no test coverage,
because loadFromDisk() itself is not reachable from the native suite: it
needs a filesystem, a config load and a saveToDisk() at the end. Extract
the block verbatim into NodeDB::recoverOwnerFromNodeDB() so the decision
it makes is testable on its own, and call it from the same site through
a short-circuit &&, which keeps the guard order and the saveToDisk() on
the hit path exactly as they were. The helper stays private; the suite
reaches it through the existing PIO_UNIT_TESTING friend shim, so nothing
in production access changes.

Three cases, all through the shim:

  restoresFromKeyDerivedRow - with a 32 byte public key configured, our
  row lives under crc32(public_key) while myNodeInfo.my_node_num still
  holds the macaddr-derived provisional number. Recovery must find the
  key-derived row and restore long_name, short_name, is_licensed and the
  is_unmessagable pair.

  missKeepsFactoryOwner - a nodes.proto that does not contain us, with a
  foreign row sitting on the provisional number. Recovery must return
  false and leave the factory owner untouched rather than paste that
  node's name and call-sign flag onto us.

  keylessUsesProvisionalNum - no security config, so there is no key to
  derive from and the provisional number is our identity. The pre-PKI
  path must still recover.

Discrimination checked by reverting the fix in place: with the lookup
back to getMeshNode(getNodeNum()) and the clampLongName() call removed,
restoresFromKeyDerivedRow fails "Expected TRUE Was FALSE" and
missKeepsFactoryOwner fails "Expected FALSE Was TRUE". keylessUsesProvisionalNum
still passes, which is correct: that path is the one the fix deliberately
left alone. Restoring the fix returns the suite to 11 of 11 green, and
the 8 pre-existing cases pass in every run.

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Test coverage added in b62aa9fbc, three cases for the recovery path.

The block was inline and could not be driven from a test, so it is now NodeDB::recoverOwnerFromNodeDB(). That extraction is behaviour preserving: same lookup, same field copies, same clamp, same return points. Only the call site changed, from an if body to a call.

The three cases:

  • test_ownerRecovery_restoresFromKeyDerivedRow, the hit. A self row filed under the key-derived number is found and its owner fields are restored.
  • test_ownerRecovery_missKeepsFactoryOwner, the clean miss. No matching row leaves the factory owner untouched and returns false.
  • test_ownerRecovery_keylessUsesProvisionalNum, the pre-PKI path, where config.security.public_key is not 32 bytes and the lookup falls back to getNodeNum().

Verified both directions under the coverage environment in Docker:

  • as it stands: 11 tests, 0 failures
  • with selfNum reverted to plain getMeshNode(getNodeNum()):
    test_ownerRecovery_restoresFromKeyDerivedRow:FAIL: Expected TRUE Was FALSE and
    test_ownerRecovery_missKeepsFactoryOwner:FAIL: Expected FALSE Was TRUE, 11 tests, 2 failures

Worth having both directions fail there: the first is the recovery that should happen and does not, the second is a recovery that should not happen and does, which is the half that would quietly overwrite a good owner record.

One correction on the earlier review. The comment-shortening request had already been done at the commit you reviewed: 284cfd11b is literally "docs(NodeDB): shorten deferred owner-recovery comments" and is the head of this branch. Nothing further to trim there unless you want the remaining two-line blocks cut down as well.

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src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp (1)

2451-2453: 🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🟠 Major | 🏗️ Heavy lift

Run recovery after node identity initialization.

loadFromDisk() calls recovery at Line 2588. The constructor calls pickNewNodeNum() only later at Line 432. In a keyless build, the fallback in recoverOwnerFromNodeDB() therefore uses an unassigned node number instead of the MAC-derived provisional number. The local owner row can be missed.

Keep the pending state on NodeDB. Run recovery after pickNewNodeNum() and PKI identity setup, but before nodeDBSelfCare() rewrites the self row. Update the test to exercise this production order.

Proposed fix
--- a/src/mesh/NodeDB.h
+++ b/src/mesh/NodeDB.h
@@
     bool configLoadComplete = false;
+    bool ownerRecoveryPending = false;
--- a/src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp
+++ b/src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp
@@
-    bool ownerRecoveryPending = false;
+    ownerRecoveryPending = false;
@@
-    if (ownerRecoveryPending && recoverOwnerFromNodeDB()) {
-        // Save the recovered owner to device state on disk
-        saveToDisk(SEGMENT_DEVICESTATE);
-    }
@@
     if (!configDecodeFailed)
         generateCryptoKeyPair(nullptr);
@@
 `#endif`
+    if (ownerRecoveryPending && recoverOwnerFromNodeDB())
+        saveToDisk(SEGMENT_DEVICESTATE);
+    ownerRecoveryPending = false;
+
     nodeDBSelfCare();

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In `@src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp` around lines 2451 - 2453, Move deferred owner recovery
out of loadFromDisk() and execute it after pickNewNodeNum() and PKI identity
initialization, but before nodeDBSelfCare() can rewrite the self row; retain
ownerRecoveryPending as NodeDB state until that point. Update the relevant test
to follow this production initialization order and verify recovery uses the
initialized MAC-derived provisional node number in keyless builds.
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- Around line 2451-2453: Move deferred owner recovery out of loadFromDisk() and
execute it after pickNewNodeNum() and PKI identity initialization, but before
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4129-4150: 🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win

Clear RAM recency when a node is explicitly removed.

heardAt has no deletion path. removeNodeByNum() can remove a node, then a contact-only re-add can inherit its old uptime stamp. backfillHeardAt() can then persist a last_heard value from before removal. Clear the entry in removeNodeByNum(). Clear all entries in resetNodes() and installDefaultNodeDatabase().

Proposed fix
+void NodeDB::clearHeardAt(NodeNum num)
+{
+    for (auto &h : heardAt) {
+        if (h.num == num) {
+            h = {};
+            return;
+        }
+    }
+}
+
 void NodeDB::removeNodeByNum(NodeNum nodeNum)
 {
+    clearHeardAt(nodeNum);
     ...
 }
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263-265: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick win

Shorten the new implementation comments.

  • src/mesh/NodeDB.h#L263-L265: reduce the NodeHeardAt description to two lines or fewer.
  • src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp#L3510-L3513: reduce the key-preservation rationale to two lines or fewer.
  • src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp#L3543-L3550: reduce the CLIENT_BASE and fallback rationale to two lines or fewer.
  • src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp#L3707-L3713: reduce the rx_time handling rationale to two lines or fewer.
  • src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp#L4216-L4218: remove or reduce the sentinel explanation to two lines or fewer.

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NodeHeardAt and the related logic to no more than two lines each: update
src/mesh/NodeDB.h lines 263-265, and src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp lines 3510-3513,
3543-3550, 3707-3713, and 4216-4218. Preserve only the essential rationale for
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explicitly removes a node, and clear the entire heardAt collection in both
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re-adds cannot inherit pre-removal timestamps or allow backfillHeardAt() to
persist stale last_heard values.

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- Around line 263-265: Shorten the comments describing NodeHeardAt and the
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  • src/mesh/NodeDB.cpp
  • src/mesh/NodeDB.h
  • test/test_nodedb_blocked/test_main.cpp

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The Lob detector reads a long enough test_-prefixed identifier as an API key,
so Unity test function names in this suite are reported as secrets. Length
alone does not decide it (several longer names in the same file do not trip),
so the names cannot be kept clear of it by inspection.

The file already carried one such finding on develop
(test_removeNodeByNum_presentNodeOnFullDb); adding
test_ownerRecovery_missKeepsFactoryOwner tipped it into a new finding and
failed Trunk Check. Same detector and same class of false positive as the
three suites already exempted above, different trigger, so it gets its own
note rather than being folded into theirs.
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