[feature]: allow deriving group key upfront to simplify minting

[babyface001]

current group key and group anchor is hard to use.

can we request group key first, then mint grouped assets with requested key.

[babyface001]

group anchor is only for batch
group key need finalize

[guggero]

Do you want to add more groups into the same batch or a new one?
If the same batch, then use group_anchor (name of the asset that is the first asset in the group).
If for a new batch, you can look up the group key of the asset in the previous batch.

[babyface001]

why 2 strategy?

my finalize call is not sync, so if it finalized, group_anchor will be invalid.

[babyface001]

if group key can be requested before mint
then we just need 1 strategy

[babyface001]

mint grouped asset become:

1. get a group key
2. mint asset with this key.

[babyface001]

no need to care batch. or groups

[guggero]

Yeah, I guess it would make things a bit simpler, good point.

[jharveyb]

The group key is tweaked with some asset, so I think the closest thing you'd be able to do would be to generate the internal key for the group key ahead of minting? And then use that when creating the batch.

But I don't think that change would help for the issue you are mentioning.

[babyface001]

@jharveyb

now I mint one asset for group key, then mint the others with this key.

but supply is +1 for collectible asset.

can we do a deploy to get the group key, then mint other assets use deploy key.

[jharveyb]

If you don't want to count the value of the first asset of the group in the total supply of the group, you could maybe use an asset that is provably unspendable. We have a spec for this already:

taproot-assets/asset/burn.go

Line 12 in 76bb5ae

// DeriveBurnKey derives a provably un-spendable but unique key by tweaking the

https://lightning.engineering/api-docs/api/taproot-assets/taproot-assets/burn-asset

However this wasn't designed for minting an unspendable asset, so it would need some changes to work for that case. If you used this, clients could ignore that first unspendable asset and only count the future assets in the group for the total asset supply.

[jharveyb]

With the changes in #866 , you would be able to create parts of the group key externally before you start minting. But the final key still depends on the first asset minted of the group.

One option would be to mint the first asset to create the group key, and then burn it, so it's value doesn't affect total
supply.

[ffranr]

Closed for the following reasons:

• Inactivity.
• The minting process now supports external key use, which can be defined before minting begins.
• A potential mint-and-burn approach has been proposed to allow creating an empty asset group.