[docs][windows]: Pod OS field update by ravisantoshgudimetla · Pull Request #30436 · kubernetes/website

ravisantoshgudimetla · 2021-11-10T20:01:14Z

xref: kubernetes/enhancements#2802

cc @marosset @liggitt @jsturtevant @aravindhp @jayunit100

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marosset · 2021-11-10T20:25:38Z

/sig windows

aravindhp · 2021-11-10T21:05:43Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

  wants to avoid overprovisioning entirely.
 * `securityContext.allowPrivilegeEscalation` -
-   not possible on Windows; none of the capabilities are hooked up
+   not possible on Windows; none of the capabilities are hooked up. Pod API


There are other places in the doc that talks about these fields under securityContext. Shouldn't we also mention it there? Or is that not done for features behind a feature gate?

jsturtevant

Is there general guidance that we should include to configure this properly like you must also set the node selector == windows for the time being?

jsturtevant · 2021-11-10T21:53:04Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

+* `securityContext.runAsNonRoot` -
   Windows does not have a root user. The closest equivalent is `ContainerAdministrator`
-   which is an identity that doesn't exist on the node.
+   which is an identity that doesn't exist on the node. 


Surprised this isn't updated against this base: https://github.com/kubernetes/website/pull/30256/files

jsturtevant · 2021-11-10T21:54:01Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

   use [`runAsUsername`](/docs/tasks/configure-pod-container/configure-runasusername)
-   instead
+   instead. Pod API
+   validation would fail when `IdentifyPodOS` featuregate is enabled.


can we re-order these two sentences. When I read it I thought we said runAsUsername would fail

jsturtevant · 2021-11-10T21:56:27Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

 * `shareProcessNamespace` - this is a beta feature, and depends on Linux namespaces
  which are not implemented on Windows. Windows cannot share process namespaces or
-  the container's root filesystem. Only the network can be shared.
+  the container's root filesystem. Only the network can be shared. Pod API


side note, with HPC we do share the root filesystem not sure if that is worth noting since it is out of context of shared namespaces

jlbutler · 2021-11-11T15:33:11Z

/assign @mehabhalodiya

marosset · 2021-11-11T17:26:01Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

  * `emptyDir` volumes
  * Named pipe host mounts
  * Resource limits
+  * OS field: This value should be set to `windows` to indicate that the current pod is a Windows pod.


We should either add a note around here saying this functionality is in alpha or link to another page/section that does so.

marosset · 2021-11-11T17:32:15Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

 * `securityContext.allowPrivilegeEscalation` -
-   not possible on Windows; none of the capabilities are hooked up
+   not possible on Windows; none of the capabilities are hooked up. Pod API
+   validation would fail when `IdentifyPodOS` featuregate is enabled.


I think for now it might be less confusing if we left this section as is and added a new section just for describing the new behavior if IdenfityPodOS is enabled and set to windows.
Also these checks only happen if both the feature gate is enabled and the pod specifies OS=windows which i think should be called out as well. The current updates could cause some confusion if only the feature gate was enabled but the OS isn't specified.

mehabhalodiya · 2021-11-13T16:51:24Z

@ravisantoshgudimetla Can you please do some updates as per the suggested changes above?

RinkiyaKeDad · 2021-11-16T09:49:49Z

content/en/docs/reference/command-line-tools-reference/feature-gates.md

  [Hyper-V isolation](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/windowscontainers/manage-containers/hyperv-container)
  for Windows containers.
+- `IdentifyPodOS`: Allows the Pod OS field to be specified. This helps in identifying the OS of the pod
+  authoritatively during API server admission time. The allowed values for OS field currently are `windows` and `linux`


nit:

Suggested change

authoritatively during API server admission time. The allowed values for OS field currently are `windows` and `linux`

authoritatively during the API server admission time. The allowed values for OS field currently are `windows` and `linux`.

Even better:

Suggested change

authoritatively during API server admission time. The allowed values for OS field currently are `windows` and `linux`

authoritatively during API admission. In Kubernetes {{< skew currentVersion >}}, the

allowed values for the field are `linux` and `windows`.

(we list 3rd party products in alphabetical order)

sftim

We should also update this page: https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/workloads/pods/

sftim · 2021-11-16T17:53:38Z

content/en/docs/reference/command-line-tools-reference/feature-gates.md

 | `GracefulNodeShutdown` | `true` | Beta | 1.21 | |
 | `HPAContainerMetrics` | `false` | Alpha | 1.20 | |
 | `HPAScaleToZero` | `false` | Alpha | 1.16 | |
+| `IdentifyPodOS` | `false` | Alpha | 1.23 | 1.23 |


content/en/docs/reference/command-line-tools-reference/feature-gates.md

sftim · 2021-11-23T17:17:52Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

+  * OS field: This `Name` field within OS field should be set to `windows` to indicate that the current pod is a Windows pod. 
+              Please note that there is no effect of having value for this field since it is behind a featuegate `IdentifyPodOS` and it is currently alpha.
+              If the `Name` field in `OS` field is set to `windows`, following fields must be unset on the Windows pods when the `IdentifyPodOS` featuregate is enabled:


What's the name of the field that should be set to windows? (It's unlikely to be OS.Name in the API; the API usually uses camelCase aka lowerCamelCase).

As you noted here, it is spec.os.name

sftim · 2021-11-23T17:18:17Z

content/en/docs/reference/command-line-tools-reference/feature-gates.md

  [Hyper-V isolation](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/windowscontainers/manage-containers/hyperv-container)
  for Windows containers.
+- `IdentifyPodOS`: Allows the Pod OS field to be specified. This helps in identifying the OS of the pod
+  authoritatively during the API server admission time. In Kubernetes {{< skew currentVersion >}}, the allowed values for the `Name` field in `OS` field of the pod spec are `windows` and `linux`.


I presume this is .spec.os.name?

Yes, would it be helpful if mention directly .spec.os.name?

Definitely - readers don't need to know what those field names look like in the source code.

sftim · 2021-11-28T19:14:10Z

Is there general guidance that we should include to configure this properly like you must also set the node selector == windows for the time being?

Typically, we don't make recommendations that cluster operators enable alpha features. There are exceptions and this might be a situation where we clearly point out the feature but stop short of formally recommending that folks enable it.

How does that sound as a compromise?

sftim · 2021-11-28T19:14:28Z

@ravisantoshgudimetla would you be willing to update this PR based on feedback so far?

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/user-guide-windows-containers.md

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

jsturtevant · 2021-11-29T17:33:11Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

+  * OS field: `pod.spec.os.name` should be set to `windows` to indicate that the current pod is a Windows pod. 
+              Please note that there is no effect of having value for this field since it is behind a featuegate `IdentifyPodOS` and it is currently alpha.
+              {{< note >}}
+              If the `pod.spec.os.name` field is set to `windows`, following fields must be unset on the Windows pods when the `IdentifyPodOS` featuregate is enabled:


Are there fields that need to be unset when the Podfield is set to linux? Such as the securityContext.WindowsOptions? Are we documenting that anywhere?

This should be available in the API docs for the field. Since we have a separate documentation for the Windows pods, I am mentioning it explicitly.

Thanks, I remember those docs now. Makes sense to mention it here but I do wonder about maintaining this list in to places.

I am not sure of such a place. If you can point me to a doc, I can update it.

This looks like the same list here: https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/c1153d3353bd4f4b68d85245d53d2745586be474/pkg/apis/core/types.go#L2968-L2990 which will be published as API docs here: https://kubernetes.io/docs/reference/kubernetes-api/workload-resources/pod-v1/ once the does are published.

My main concern here is these two will get out of sync.

So, you don't want this list to be mentioned here in our Windows docs?

I think it should be mentioned but there should be one place where all the fields are listed otherwise it will get out sync and be confusing.

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/user-guide-windows-containers.md

jsturtevant · 2021-11-29T18:30:19Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

  * Named pipe host mounts
  * Resource limits
+  * OS field: `pod.spec.os.name` should be set to `windows` to indicate that the current pod is a Windows pod. 
+              Please note that there is no effect when setting a value for this field since it is behind a feature gate `IdentifyPodOS` and it is currently alpha.


if the feature gate is enabled does it have an affect? It seems from below it does. Is this field available even when the feature gate is not set? If that is the case, it would be clearer to say something along those lines.

Usually all the fields will be available irrespective of the featuregates. We try to drop fields when persisting to storage so that it won't have any effect.

More info: https://github.com/kubernetes/community/blob/master/contributors/devel/sig-architecture/api_changes.md#adding-unstable-features-to-stable-versions. Look at the create and update strategy code.

What does no effect mean here? This says there is no effect but then goes on to say "the following fields must be unset on the Windows pods when the IdentifyPodOS featuregate is enabled" which implies there is a difference in behavior: if you set this field then your pod will be rejected if those fields are set.

What does no effect mean here?

OS field has no effect when the IdentifyPodOS featuregate is disabled. It can be windows or linux but it doesn't matter however when the IdentifyPodOS featuregate is enabled and if linux specific fields are set in the security context of the pod when the name is set to windows, pod validation would fail

It needs to be clearer that there is no affect (besides the older kubectl version that @sftim mentioned below) when disabled but when enabled there is an affect (validation could fail). Right now this reads as there is not affect for this field.

left a possible suggestion

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

sftim

How about these suggestions?

content/en/docs/reference/command-line-tools-reference/feature-gates.md

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

sftim · 2021-11-30T00:17:27Z

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

+               * spec.hostPID
+               * spec.hostIPC
+               * spec.securityContext.seLinuxOptions
+               * spec.securityContext.seccompProfile
+               * spec.securityContext.fsGroup
+               * spec.securityContext.fsGroupChangePolicy
+               * spec.securityContext.sysctls
+               * spec.shareProcessNamespace
+               * spec.securityContext.runAsUser
+               * spec.securityContext.runAsGroup
+               * spec.securityContext.supplementalGroups
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.seLinuxOptions
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.seccompProfile
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.capabilities
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.readOnlyRootFilesystem
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.privileged
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.allowPrivilegeEscalation
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.procMount
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.runAsUser
+               * spec.containers[*].securityContext.runAsGroup


Please put all these field paths in backticks (individually)

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/user-guide-windows-containers.md

content/en/docs/setup/production-environment/windows/intro-windows-in-kubernetes.md

jsturtevant · 2021-11-30T21:31:51Z

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jlbutler · 2021-11-30T21:56:35Z

Thanks for working out that final nit!
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	authoritatively during API server admission time. The allowed values for OS field currently are `windows` and `linux`
	authoritatively during the API server admission time. The allowed values for OS field currently are `windows` and `linux`.

	authoritatively during API server admission time. The allowed values for OS field currently are `windows` and `linux`
	authoritatively during API admission. In Kubernetes {{< skew currentVersion >}}, the
	allowed values for the field are `linux` and `windows`.

	\| `IdentifyPodOS` \| `false` \| Alpha \| 1.23 \| 1.23 \|
	\| `IdentifyPodOS` \| `false` \| Alpha \| 1.23 \| \|

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