Saves showing empty or no name... #1120
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Not sure how to attach an image when editing a post. I uploaded the wrong image last time and am uploading the correct one below. This is what I have seen since 5.20 arrived. |
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i forget which other issue(s) this was discussed in but if you name your save while in-game, that name will display here... i think there was some talk about possibly displaying the default save name as given by NMS but i'm not sure... there was also some talk of maybe having other data displayed here but these types of selection lists are not really conducive to carrying all of it... |
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It displayed information before. It's now simply blank. That's why I reported it. I personally never name my saves. I never had the need to do so. |
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Ignore this comment, unrelated, just misread the initial thread
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No idea why your editor is listing "[Empty]" slots... mine has never done that, like ever. The last update to the Editor resolved an issue I reported, here: #1095 Since that update to the Editor; all my saves in the drop down are listed as "Normal" saves. I name my saves and all my names are displayed properly. However, I have NO Normal saves, I even convert expedition saves to Survival. So the last update to the game broke the Editors ability to determine the game "mode" of the save and by default lists them as "Normal". All my saves report the time and date stamp just fine and when I save changes, it updates correctly. |
because in the image the save3,4,5, and 6.hg files do not exist... why they skipped "1" in the first slot's first filename i don't know... maybe it was the only save file early on before the second was introduced and they never updated the name? idk but there it is... the key factor for showing empty slots is the gap between saveX.hg filenames... NMS does this, too, but it also now presents the slots in order from most recently played to least recently played... yes, in the above examples, the mf_saveX.hg files are included... i was keeping the list short and i only wanted to respond to this one comment about empty slots... |
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Apologies - I was referring to the OP's screenshot where it showed those [Empty] slots I routinely make or edit my saves and put them on Slot 15. I almost never go beyond slot 10 w/my normal saves. Hopefully I can upload this image that clearly demonstrates what I said
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@meachware not sure why the prerequisite is still Java 8! That's a like pre-historic version of Java, current LTS version is 21 and the last stable release is (I think) version 23... Forcing users to use an old version is a security issue!!! You should always be using the most recent version of Java, either LTS (long time support which gets fixes for a longer period) or the latest version of the runtime (https://www.java.com/releases/) YOU SHOULD NOT BE USING JAVA 8! |
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Thanks for the concern and info Release date: October 15, 2024" This is for the runtime environment (JRE) and NOT for the JDK. I have no need for the JDK and only require the JRE. |
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@meachware the link you provide fo Why is Java 8 recommended has been posted by Oracle which kind of "bought" Java some years ago and hustled a war against anyone trying to use use Java. Being Java at the time an Open Source project already decent people fought back and Oracle Java is no longer the reference implementation and currently there are much successful fully compatible Java implementations maintained by top companies like Microsoft, AWS, JetBrains, Red Hat, Adoptium being this last one probably the most used open source one since is backed by the Eclipse Foundation. Not sure why Oracle perpetuates the idea that Java 8 is good for you (maybe they are bad loosers...), but believe me, it's not. Update you JRE to the latest LTS (Long Time Support) version from the implementation of you're choice. Just drop Oracle, take it from a 15+ year Java developer!!! (And BTW I'm sure I know the difference between a JDK and a JRE better that you and the difference is not what you think just guessing from the way you wrote you're comment!!!) Old Java versions have security issues and bad stuff happening, that's why the community works to keep it updated and free from bad bugs! |
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By the way, just for reference, the 2 reference toolkits for programming applications Java for the Web, Quarkus and Spring do not support any Java version prior to Java 17!!! These are the most used toolkits out there. Thousands of enterprise applications use these toolkits on hundreds of thousand of applications and they are successful. It surely must be a good reason for this! |
You are incorrect. Those saves exist and can be opened in NomNom and NMSSE. Now do you understand why I filed the bug report? Those two saves exist and are playable. All of my saves show up correctly in NomNom, but NomNom destroys things (I reported some bugs to them tonight) so I don't touch it. |
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I'ts the first time I'm hearing about NomNon but this just proves all my point 😂 Although NomNon is "open source" all the commits are done by the same guy 😂, which is kind of the same of what's happening on this repo with the (big) difference that the "other guy" is not hiding what's is doing! (he most likely just doesn't have anyone offering help) Both of these tools have done bad one day or the other, if you want to point fingers point fingers at the guy that is hiding what's is doing? At leat NomNom can receive tips on the things he can improve! Have you tried to drop a hint on his repo pointing to what we might be doing wrong? Like productive stuff, like "this line in you're code is doing this"? At least there you can do that and I'm sure he would look into it to check if it would fix the problem!!! |
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HTML4? Is that even a thing used by anyone? Is this a record of what he knows or of how outdated he is??? |
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Since the last update about two weeks ago I have been unable to identify which save is which in NMSSE. The save selection shows nothing useful. Timestamp, location, nothing. I have avoided using NMSSE for this reason because I do not know if it can damage a modern save. I did start a new save last night and tried editing it with NMSSE and it appeared to work, but the save showed no location or time played or anything in the game. It did load and the one change I made worked, but I am still not sure about the lack of info showing.
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