[DataCap Application] <Organization> - <Project Name>#2024

[fisco1]

Data Owner Name

Onnuri Church

What is your role related to the dataset

Data Preparer

Data Owner Country/Region

Korea, Republic of

Data Owner Industry

Not-for-Profit

Website

https://www.onnuri.org/

Social Media

https://www.youtube.com/@Onnuriservice/featured
https://www.facebook.com/OnnuriCommunityChurch
https://www.instagram.com/onnuri.acts29/

Total amount of DataCap being requested

1.6PiB

Expected size of single dataset (one copy)

400 TiB

Number of replicas to store

4

Weekly allocation of DataCap requested

50TiB

On-chain address for first allocation

f17chwp55d4jctsuqkyrgqguiysimkqngrdwobzea

Data Type of Application

Public, Open Dataset (Research/Non-Profit)

Custom multisig

• Use Custom Multisig

Identifier

No response

Share a brief history of your project and organization

Lstonz provides sermon videos globally from pastors & plans to store all church sermon data. Onnuri Church, 1 of the largest, is the starting point, followed by the top 10 ranked Churches. Lstonz influences major Korean churches. Long-lasting project breaking church barriers with Filecoin & IPFS.

Is this project associated with other projects/ecosystem stakeholders?

No

If answered yes, what are the other projects/ecosystem stakeholders

No response

Describe the data being stored onto Filecoin

Staring with archives and preparing daily retrieval service in 1-2 years. The original files are filmed in 4K or 8K, and new videos are created every week for Wednesday and Sunday sermons. Original, Tv, and Internet versions.

Where was the data currently stored in this dataset sourced from

My Own Storage Infra

If you answered "Other" in the previous question, enter the details here

No response

How do you plan to prepare the dataset

lotus

If you answered "other/custom tool" in the previous question, enter the details here

No response

Please share a sample of the data

https://www.onnuri.org/videos/former-senior-pastor-has-sermons/#maintab=1&subtab2=3&subtab1=1

Confirm that this is a public dataset that can be retrieved by anyone on the Network

• I confirm

If you chose not to confirm, what was the reason

No response

What is the expected retrieval frequency for this data

Monthly

For how long do you plan to keep this dataset stored on Filecoin

Permanently

In which geographies do you plan on making storage deals

Asia other than Greater China, North America, Europe, Australia (continent)

How will you be distributing your data to storage providers

HTTP or FTP server

How do you plan to choose storage providers

Big Data Exchange

If you answered "Others" in the previous question, what is the tool or platform you plan to use

No response

If you already have a list of storage providers to work with, fill out their names and provider IDs below

Greater Heat, f01985745
VDL, f01624021
FCC, f0521569
Andrew Sjoquist Ent. Pty., f01919423
More SPs are in contact directly or through Darma Capital

How do you plan to make deals to your storage providers

Boost client

If you answered "Others/custom tool" in the previous question, enter the details here

No response

Can you confirm that you will follow the Fil+ guideline

Yes

[large-datacap-requests]

Thanks for your request!
Everything looks good. 👌

A Governance Team member will review the information provided and contact you back pretty soon.

[Sunnyiscoming]

Expected size of single dataset (one copy)
5-10 TiB

Please clarify this value again.
If single dataset is 5-10 TB and you want to store 6 copies, the datacap requested is 60 TB, not 2 PB.

[fisco1]

Thank you for your attention.
There may be a gap in the application fill-out.
We are planning to store the total expected size of 2PiB (maybe more as proceed) through this project. And each time, 5-10 TiB data will be sealed and stored with 4-6 replicas.
To us in filecoin plus docs,
the terminology for the total size of expected storing data is "DataCap".
the storage size of each time sealing and uploading is "Dataset".
According to the Estuary doc, it makes storage deals to 6 SPs to complete, which seems to make 6 replicas.
I guess we had some gaps in understanding.
Please generously understand our intention and work through it accordingly.
If needed, we will revise or redo the application.
Thank you.

[Sunnyiscoming]

1.You can only apply for datacap to store existing data

Expected size of single dataset (one copy)
5-10 TiB

This means the amount of data which is not duplicated. You need change this value.

Total amount of DataCap being requested
Expected size of single dataset (one copy)
Number of replicas to store

You should modify these values to the actual values, theoretically Expected size of single dataset (one copy) * Number of replicas to store = Total amount of DataCap being requested

[DataCap Application] -

You should change your title of application. [DataCap Application] -

4.You should find more sps. Best practice for storing large datasets includes ideally, storing it in 3 or more regions, with 4 or more storage provider operators or owners, and having at least 5 replicas of the dataset.

[fisco1]

Here is the correct summary of my request.

1-2.
Total amount of DataCap being requested: 1.6PiB
Expected size of single dataset (one copy): 400TiB
Number of replicas to store: 4

3. Application revised

4. We will find more than 4 foreign SPs for the regional distribution.

Please kindly advise if you find any other issue.
Thank you and God bless you.

[Sunnyiscoming]

Could you send an email to [email protected] with your official domain in order to confirm your identity? Email name should includes the issue id #2024.

[Sunnyiscoming]

Any update here?

[fisco1]

We will release the new web site from this Sunday, June 11th. It is still the test version for couple of months since it will include not only the archive service but realtime video WEB3.0 up/down-load service with estuary,
Here is the domain: lstonz.com
My official email: [email protected]
Please understand for the delay of contact. We are tied up with many promotion activities to churches these days.

[Sunnyiscoming]

lstonz.com https://www.onnuri.org/
I can not open these two website.
Maybe you can send me the related supporting documents.

[fisco1]

Sunnyiscoming,
Click on blue marked https://www.onnuri.org/ in your chat box above. It works for me.
I don't know why you have problem with https://www.onnuri.org.
The site is viewed by millons of people globally.
Our service domain Lstonz is not working till Sunday as explained one chat box above yours.
However, our web service is not for the use of this application.
It is for our next service that I have introduced for the reference.
This application is for the immidiate archive service for the churches that carry tons of past sermon contents.

[fisco1]

Onnuri is one of the top 10 large churches in Korea. We now have deal done or work in process with the mid sized churches as shown below. They are all our affiliate's ERP customer churches. Datacap will need to be expanded as we continue this project in the near future with churches' demand.

www.bigtree.or.kr
www.fgcdc.org
www.namseoul.org
www.goyangchurch.com
www.bdc.or.kr
www.joongang.or.kr
www.mokpodream.org
www.jesuscountry.net
www.msfirst.com
www.keumsung.org
www.namsanch.org
www.hyangsang.com
www.hjpc.org
www.sieunso.org
www.pcmc.or.kr
www.thanksjesus.co.kr
www.mokwonchurch.com
www.dsjeil.com
www.daeilchurch.net
www.pydp.or.kr
www.cams.or.kr
www.oj-sunghwa.or.kr
www.daegil.net
www.chang-dai.com
www.hgch.net
www.shinan.or.kr

[fisco1]

I must confess that I am not entirely acquainted with the precise parameters of your verification requirements. Nonetheless, this invaluable information holds the potential to profoundly benefit the filecoin network in a humanitarian and purposeful manner. In particular, smaller churches lacking substantial financial support are often compelled to discard their cherished sermons and other precious video content owing to budgetary constraints, thereby incurring significant losses within the Christian community.

[Sunnyiscoming]

I am confirming whether you are authorized to store these data. If the official website is https://www.onnuri.org/, why did you send me an email from the mailbox at the end of lstonz.com, which cannot be opened? If you cannot use the email address ending onnuri.org to send me a confirmation email, please provide me with your business license or other authorized information.

[fisco1]

The current process seems to be deviating from my initial expectations. It began as an exciting and pleasant procedure, with valuable insights from Protocol Labs and the Filecoin Foundation sites. However, I now feel like I'm standing in a courtroom where the judge and prosecutor are unaware of the evidence I've provided, continuously asking questions without undivided attention. While it would be understandable if there were confusion regarding different interpretations of terms, I am starting to question if the filecoin+ governance methodology is being appropriately implemented in this case.

In our application, we have stated as DATA PREPARER in the second question, yet you continue to question why we don't use the data owner's domain for the email address. Our role and the data preparation process are clearly outlined in your documentation (https://filecoin-foundation.gitbook.io/data-onboarding-docs/execute/prepare-data).

On June 7th, I mentioned that we would release the new website on Sunday, June 11th. However, on that very day, you mentioned that you couldn't access our site, as well as the data owner's site, which has been viewed by millions of people over the decades.

Additionally, it is explicitly stated that Lstonz.com is a test version intended to run for a couple of months, offering various features such as retrieval and streaming upload/download on the IPFS network through a smartphone app, which we may call "GOD Tube." However, it is important to note that this service information is for your reference and is irrelevant to this datacap application.

Our test site has been accessible since Sunday night as planned, solely for testing purposes.

The data owner's name appeared with Onnuri Church as it is one of the largest references. Nevertheless, the archive service has been offered to midsized churches listed on June 9th, and most of them are pleased to accept the free data storage donation.

Rather than requesting for the business license or other authorizations, it would have been preferable to inquire about the operational process to avoid unnecessary attention.

We are not engaging in a business deal; we are offering a free donation program. If churches are interested, they can set up a meeting with our engineering team to learn how to send their data. They already have several paid services or a few of their own servers (in the case of small churches) for archive storage. They are happy to participate because sermon contents are public to all Christians, and keeping multiple copies provides better risk management, especially when it's a free donation.

I understand that you have your role as a notary, as well as your own original job. I simply hope that we can manage this process in a more positive and appreciative manner. Please understand that we are not stealing church sermon contents; they are willingly and happily available for anyone to access and listen to. If there are any violations within the Filecoin community during our execution of the datacap, the governance has all the authority to address them.

Let's refresh and reset the path to our destination with a happy mindset. If there are any reasons for disqualification, please let us know so we can address them. I hope this message does not lead you to view us in a derogatory light. Please consider it as a voice of willingness and a desire to rectify any issues for the right path.

P.S. The offering letter, which was delivered to the churches, is attached for your reference.
Church Data Storage Dedication Program_en.pdf
Lstonz 교회 데이터기증 제안.pdf

[Sunnyiscoming]

Hi, I am not a notary, I conduct preliminary audits of the enterprise and data authenticity, and I hope to push this dataset in the right direction.

You're a data preparer. I'm not quite sure what your role is. Are you the data owner or are you authorized by the data owner to store this data?

I have been confirming with you the right to use the data to avoid disputes between the data owners when you store this part of the data. At present, a lot of data on the network is public, but this does not mean that it can be stored at will, so it is necessary to confirm that the storage behavior is authorized by the data owner.

I can't access https://www.onnuri.org/. It may be something wrong with my local IP address.

I don't know if I made my meaning clear, if you have any questions, you can also contact the official members in slack to communicate.
https://filecoin.io/slack

[MatrixStorage]

@Sunnyiscoming Hey, I am a notary public and I am concerned about this project, but I would also like to see more information that can prove the owner of this data, if any, I would be happy to help.

[Sunnyiscoming]

Any update here?

[Sunnyiscoming]

You can prove that you are authorized to store these data, like this application.#2060 (comment)

[Sunnyiscoming]

Close for no reply.

[tigerhsl]

As we step into 2024, I extend my warmest wishes for a year filled with prosperity and success. My name is H.S. Lee, and I am the president of Lstonz. Since it's one of the most important spiritual projects in Korea, I am personally overseeing and handling its progress.

In our efforts to align with your needs, we have successfully engaged with Onnuri Church. They have graciously agreed to sign on the certificate, a gesture that extends beyond their usual practices. This is not a typical business agreement but a heartfelt gift.

I want to acknowledge that this collaboration has been made possible through the strength of our relationship. Without this, the nature of this partnership could have been perceived to a different purpose.

I am optimistic that our journey ahead will be smooth, particularly as this project's issue number coincidentally aligns with the current year. It's a delightful synchronicity that adds to our shared narrative.

Thank you for your trust in us. Please do not hesitate to reach out if you require any additional support or assistance.

Data gift certificate to Onnuri Church.pdf

[tigerhsl]

In addition, we have 47 units of 1TB HDD from the church as the 1st segment.
We plan to make replicas spreading over five eligible SPs. This applies to making a change in our DataCap capacity to 2.5 PB. Please advise me on that approach.
Onnuri church, which is one of the largest in Korea, is very happy about this new innovative storage project.
Looking forward to hearing from the participants.