[DOCS] Telemetry settings: improve phrasing#158396
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mostly removing Kibana features because we also collect telemetry about other Elastic products.
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This page uses Usage Collection, Usage Data, and Telemetry. It's awkward to see all three terms on one page to mean the same thing. We should choose one term and use it consistently in the docs and UI copy.
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Fair point!
@cdanderson98, what do you think?
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@gchaps, I can see "Usage Data" is only used one (when referring to Kibana's Advanced Settings section.
If that's fine, I'll merge this docs PR so we can backport it to all previous versions, and we can update that to "Usage Collection" for the next release.
Re Usage Collection vs. Telemetry. I tend to prefer Usage Collection because Telemetry is too broad (it can also refer to Observabilty metrics). However, removing telemetry from the settings will introduce Breaking changes. That's the main reason we still handle 2 terms to refer to the same concept.
I hope it makes sense.
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| Usage Collection (also known as Telemetry) is enabled by default. This allows us to learn what our users are most interested in, so we can improve our products and services. | ||
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I moved this higher to be closer to the definition of the service.
Then we can jump into the description of the options users can control
| [[telemetry-optIn]] `telemetry.optIn`:: | ||
| Set to `true` to send cluster statistics to Elastic. Reporting your | ||
| cluster statistics helps us improve your user experience. Set to `false` to stop sending any telemetry data to Elastic. + | ||
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It's true by default. We think it's clearer if we explain the step to override the default.
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| cluster statistics helps us improve your user experience. Set to `false` to stop sending any telemetry data to Elastic. + | ||
| Set to `false` to stop sending any telemetry data to Elastic. Reporting your | ||
| cluster statistics helps us improve your user experience. *Default: `true`.*+ |
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Moving the default value closer to the flag definition. Being at the end of the extra note in the next paragraph made it harder to find.
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| If the server fails to connect to our endpoint at https://telemetry.elastic.co/, it assumes | ||
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I moved it to the bottom because it feels like it's the least likely setting to be used.
Happy to move it back to the top if you think it's worth highlighting it first.
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This page uses Usage Collection, Usage Data, and Telemetry. It's awkward to see all three terms on one page to mean the same thing. We should choose one term and use it consistently in the docs and UI copy.
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# Backport This will backport the following commits from `main` to `8.7`: - [[DOCS] Telemetry settings: improve phrasing (#158396)](#158396) <!--- Backport version: 8.9.7 --> ### Questions ? 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# Backport This will backport the following commits from `main` to `7.17`: - [[DOCS] Telemetry settings: improve phrasing (#158396)](#158396) <!--- Backport version: 8.9.7 --> ### Questions ? 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Summary
We want to improve our docs to make our telemetry collection clearer to our users.
For maintainers
Our intention is to backport this to as many versions as possible