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XEC/24F: Potential KS.1.1/KP.3.3 recombinant (35 sequences, 9 countries) #2717

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Over-There-Is opened this issue Aug 7, 2024 · 25 comments
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Over-There-Is commented Aug 7, 2024

Transferred from sars-cov-2-variants/lineage-proposals#1827
Thx @aviczhl2 .

Mutations based on JN.1: C18657T, C19716T, C21627A(S:T22N), T21738C(S:F59S) / T22928C(S:F456L), C23039G(S:Q493E), G24872T(S:V1104L), C25006T, C28291A(Orf9b:P3H), G28884C(N:R204P)
The 5' donor could be from a pre-C6701T KS.1.1 branch with C18657T.
Breakpoint: 21738~22599
Query: C18657T, C19716T, C25006T
Query for sequences without 19716 mutation: -G9130T, C18657T, -C19716T, G24872T, C25006T

Earliest sequence: 06-24 Berlin, Germany EPI_ISL_19283881
Latest sequence: 07-28 Stockholm, Sweden EPI_ISL_19310587
Regions detected:
Germany 15(Bayern 6, Berlin 4, Nordrhein-Westfalen 4, Rheinland-Pfalz 1), Netherlands 4(Noord-Brabant 1, Noord-Holland 1, Utrecht 1, Zuid-Holland 1), Sweden 3(Stockholm 2, Örebro 1), France 1(ARA), Spain 1(Asturias), UK 1(Scotland)
US 8(Virginia 4, Washington 2[1 from airport screening, 1 from Germany], Ohio 1, Pennsylvania), Canada 1(Alberta);
South Korea 1.

https://nextstrain.org/fetch/raw.githubusercontent.com/Over-There-Is/subtreeAuspice/main/XEC.json?c=country&label=id:node_7040630
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Sequences:

EPI_ISL_19270230, EPI_ISL_19283843, EPI_ISL_19283881,
EPI_ISL_19283891, EPI_ISL_19283905, EPI_ISL_19288354,
EPI_ISL_19292873, EPI_ISL_19299882, EPI_ISL_19300184,
EPI_ISL_19304941, EPI_ISL_19308953, EPI_ISL_19308959,
EPI_ISL_19308971, EPI_ISL_19308982, EPI_ISL_19308990,
EPI_ISL_19309895, EPI_ISL_19309916, EPI_ISL_19310160,
EPI_ISL_19310201, EPI_ISL_19310562, EPI_ISL_19310587,
EPI_ISL_19310626, EPI_ISL_19310656, EPI_ISL_19310662,
EPI_ISL_19312373, EPI_ISL_19313844, EPI_ISL_19313900,
EPI_ISL_19314468, EPI_ISL_19316511, EPI_ISL_19316527,
EPI_ISL_19316531, EPI_ISL_19316606, EPI_ISL_19317075,
EPI_ISL_19317285, EPI_ISL_19319036

@Over-There-Is Over-There-Is changed the title Potential KS.1.1/KP.3.3 recombinant (27 sequences, 7 countries) Potential KS.1.1/KP.3.3 recombinant (28 sequences, 8 countries) Aug 7, 2024
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cc @corneliusroemer @AngieHinrichs @thomasppeacock initial growth pretty impressive i suggest direct designation for this.

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Wait wait the bottom branch has Orf1a:I1367L that is the defining of #2707 and its sublineage #2704 both growing fast too , could be another recombination? or convergence?
@ryhisner (many thx for his neverending effort!) has identified that mutation as a marker in chronic infections that until today has not spread easily in general population, so how many chances it is a second appearance instead of a further recombination?

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xz-keg commented Aug 7, 2024

Wait wait the bottom branch has Orf1a:I1367L that is the defining of #2707 and its sublineage #2704 both growing fast too , could be another recombination? or convergence? @ryhisner (many thx for his neverending effort!) has identified that mutation as a marker in chronic infections that until today has not spread easily in general population, so how many chances it is a second appearance instead of a further recombination?

This is interesting. If the recomb hypothesis holds, then it is like XDP and XEB pair, a 1-BP recomb and a 2-BP recomb of same lineages occur at the same time.

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corneliusroemer commented Aug 7, 2024

I'm having a look! At a high level, this one is interesting because it has the somewhat beneficial N/ORF9b of KP.3.3 and S:59 and S:22, right?

22 on its own seems to be less beneficial than 31del, am I right? Have we ever seen 22 and 31del together? Are they additively beneficial?

KS is JN.1.13.1 off the top of my head, correct?

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Designated as XEC - thanks for the issue, characterisation and ping everyone!

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I'm having a look! At a high level, this one is interesting because it has the somewhat beneficial N/ORF9b of KP.3.3 and S:59 and S:22, right?

Right!

22 on its own seems to be less beneficial than 31del, am I right? Have we ever seen 22 and 31del together? Are they additively beneficial?

Not yet just a dozen and half of sequences with that combo but all recent so it could be the next development but we saw 22N working quite well with S:31X i think in MB.1.1

KS is JN.1.13.1 off the top of my head, correct?

yeah exactly!

Thx for designating

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It's also detected in Canada now.

@Over-There-Is Over-There-Is changed the title Potential KS.1.1/KP.3.3 recombinant (28 sequences, 8 countries) XEC: Potential KS.1.1/KP.3.3 recombinant (35 sequences, 9 countries) Aug 8, 2024
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xz-keg commented Aug 8, 2024

I'm having a look! At a high level, this one is interesting because it has the somewhat beneficial N/ORF9b of KP.3.3 and S:59 and S:22, right?

22 on its own seems to be less beneficial than 31del, am I right? Have we ever seen 22 and 31del together? Are they additively beneficial?

S:T22N is slightly more beneficial than S:S31-. on both FLiRT and FLuQE (KP.2 and KP.3) backbone.

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xz-keg commented Aug 8, 2024

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And the beneficial effects of T22N and S31- seem stack on FLiRT backbone. Although there's no KP.3+T22N+S:S31- seqs yet.

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FedeGueli commented Aug 8, 2024

S:T22N is slightly more beneficial than S:S31-. on both FLiRT and FLuQE (KP.2 and KP.3) backbone.

the 493E calculations is not reliable due to a big cluster of a lineage with S:T22N that is now sinking.

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FedeGueli commented Aug 8, 2024

And the beneficial effects of T22N and S31- seem stack on FLiRT backbone. Although there's no KP.3+T22N+S:S31- seqs yet.

there is one KP.3.1.1 with it : EPI_ISL_19310599 from Sweden

Screenshot 2024-08-08 alle 09 49 37 https://nextstrain.org/fetch/genome-test.gi.ucsc.edu/trash/ct/subtreeAuspice1_genome_test_3266_4785b0.json?c=userOrOld&label=id:node_11587690 Query: C1645T, C13264T, T26214C

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Three Canadian sequences on the ORF1a:I1367L branch got the synonymous TRS-like A4576T, T4579A, one of my favorite little hidden gems. They've also got a very rare NSP5 mutation, ORF1a:V3336F (NSP5_V73F), which has been in fewer then 200 sequences ever.
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Thank you @ryhisner worth proposing it in a separate issue please!

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Interesting - but we'll want some non-Canada or at least non-Ontario sequences here - as Canada is the country with the densest surveillance of all, I think, meaning they cluster a lot and a few sequences don't mean the lineage is very common globally.

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Interesting - but we'll want some non-Canada or at least non-Ontario sequences here - as Canada is the country with the densest surveillance of all, I think, meaning they cluster a lot and a few sequences don't mean the lineage is very common globally.

Agree sorry i was thinking we were on the other repo, propose to track it separately there

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xz-keg commented Aug 20, 2024

Interesting - but we'll want some non-Canada or at least non-Ontario sequences here - as Canada is the country with the densest surveillance of all, I think, meaning they cluster a lot and a few sequences don't mean the lineage is very common globally.

May designate the Orf1a:I1367L branch. This is in various countries and a meaningful one convergent to KP.3.3.4.

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FYI, regarding Germany:
As nextclade/pangolin-data has no XEC dataset currently (classifies them as KP.3.3), I used the "substitutions" column of a nextclade analysis of the RKI data*) with a "C18657T & C19716T & C25006T" query:
XEC_logit_2024-08-21

*) Using RKI GitHub data (last updated today, 2024-08-21), that is (at least on a Wednesday) more up-to-date than GISAID and has sample collection date metadata.

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Spotted by @NkRMnZr firstly on 20 Jul on Twitter.

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xz-keg commented Aug 21, 2024

FYI, regarding Germany: As nextclade/pangolin-data has no XEC dataset currently (classifies them as KP.3.3), I used the "substitutions" column of a nextclade analysis of the RKI data*) with a "C18657T & C19716T & C25006T" query: XEC_logit_2024-08-21

*) Using RKI GitHub data (last updated today, 2024-08-21), that is (at least on a Wednesday) more up-to-date than GISAID and has sample collection date metadata.

Since RKI is more up-to-date than GISAID, @AngieHinrichs is it possible to add it into your usher datasets?

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FYI, regarding Germany: As nextclade/pangolin-data has no XEC dataset currently (classifies them as KP.3.3), I used the "substitutions" column of a nextclade analysis of the RKI data*) with a "C18657T & C19716T & C25006T" query:
*) Using RKI GitHub data (last updated today, 2024-08-21), that is (at least on a Wednesday) more up-to-date than GISAID and has sample collection date metadata.

Since RKI is more up-to-date than GISAID, @AngieHinrichs is it possible to add it into your usher datasets?

They (RKI) upload the sequences (the German lab sequences they receive) to GISAID, just with some delay (that was what I meant with "more up-to-date"). So the sequences should land in the GISAID database (guess delayed by 1-7 days).

But as

  • GISAID has no "sample date" and
  • uses upload date (as far as I understand?), and
  • the samples the RKI receives per weekly batch are a mix of samples drawn over several weeks, and
  • RKI provides better sample date metadata,
    a analysis/observation of growth (for Germany) based on that sequences+metadata is probably better (especially in the beginning)

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103 now

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Over-There-Is commented Aug 28, 2024

Of course, S:K356T is in all BA.2.86, and this lineage is a recombinant between two JN.1 lineages. It seems there are some sequences having no coverage on 22629, but it doesn't mean it's reverted.
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@Over-There-Is Over-There-Is changed the title XEC: Potential KS.1.1/KP.3.3 recombinant (35 sequences, 9 countries) XEC/24F: Potential KS.1.1/KP.3.3 recombinant (35 sequences, 9 countries) Oct 6, 2024
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Over-There-Is commented Oct 6, 2024

1936 from 46 regions/43 countries now:
china(mainland hk tw) israel japan korea
österreich belgie hrvatska czech rep. danmark suomi france deutschland eirinn italia srbija(kosovo) luxembourg nederland norge polska portugal slovenija españa(mainland canary) sverige uk
canada us
australia nz
brazil ecuador
via US: bharat iraq maldives singapura uae ellada schweiz misr zuid afrika mexico dominican rep. peru
via Japan: philippines

and xek is 69 sequences from 13 regions/countries now:
österreich hrvatska danmark france deutschland eirinn italia nederland slovenia españa sverige ukraina uk

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