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+# 2023-08-30 Conda Community Meeting 
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+[Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505) · [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm)
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+Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.
+
+## Attendees
+
+| Name                   | Initials | Affiliation  | GH Username      |
+| ---------------------- | -------- | ------------ | ---------------- | 
+|  Travis Hathaway       | TH       | Anaconda     | travishathaway   |
+|  Dave Clements         | DPC      | Anaconda     | tnabtaf          |
+|  Filipe Fernandes      | FF       | conda-forge  | ocefpaf          |
+|  Jannis Leidel         | JL       | Anaconda     | jezdez           |
+|  Marius van Niekerk    | MvN      | Voltron Data / conda-forge  | mariusvniekerk  |
+| Katherine Kinnaman     | KK       | Anaconda     | kathatherine     |
+| Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra | JRG      | Quansight    | jaimergp         |
+| Pavithra Eswaramoorthy | PE       | Quansight    | pavithraes       |
+| Rachel Asquith         | RAA      | Anaconda     | rasquith         |
+| Cheng H. Lee           | CHL      | Anaconda/c-f | chenghlee        |
+| Sebastien Awwad | SA |  | awwad |
+|                        |          |              |                  |
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+14 people in total
+
+## Introductions
+
+None
+
+## Announcements
+
+None
+
+## New Agenda Items
+
+- [x] TH conda-auth demo (progress so far)
+    - [x] Brief CLI Demo
+    - [x] Show open issues and PR
+    - [x] More info: https://github.com/conda-incubator/conda-auth
+    - [x] Based on new auth-handlers plugin hook: https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/12911
+
+- [x] JL: CLA: Still talking with NumFOCUS to implement the change
+    - [x] hopefully solved tomorrow
+    - [x] need to re-sign
+    - [x] context: change of conda's CLA from Anaconda to NumFOCUS non-profit
+
+- [x] JL: Intention (still!) to form conda security team
+    - [ ] looking for interested people
+
+- [x] DPC: Outreachy?
+    - Community Applications due in a week or two.
+    - Especially asking for conda-forge (I know this not a CF call...)
+    - Nope. Not gonna happen.
+
+- [x] JRG: Quiz time! How do you understand conda pins? e.g. that thing that you can add to `$CONDA_PREFIX/conda-meta/pinned`
+  - ⛓️  A conda pin acts as `run_constrained`. It limits which `PackageRecord`s are accepted as a valid solution. Adding a pin with `python` has no effect because it means any Python. Users are expected to add `python=3.8` or similar.
+  - 🔒 A conda pin acts as a lock. If the spec matches something installed, then it freezes it. Adding a pin with python freezes whatever Python is installed. I don’t understand in this case how things should work when the pin is added before the package is installed.
+  - [The docs](https://conda.io/projects/conda/en/latest/user-guide/tasks/manage-pkgs.html#preventing-packages-from-updating-pinning) seem to hint at the ⛓️ option, but the test mentioned above assumes 🔒-like behavior?
+  - So... what would you expect out of a `conda-meta/pinned` configured as simply `python`?
+  - Reasons to stay with a pinned Python:
+    - Legacy reasons when `base` was more popular
+    - py27 -> py33 is bad
+    - Pip-installed packages will break
+    - Churn due to the `noarch` reinstallations
+  - Let's try with something else than Python (e.g. numpy) - thanks Marius
+
+- [x] DPC: [**Is conda Free?**](https://www.anaconda.com/blog/is-conda-free) A new blog post about an old question.
+    - Please point people at it when you get this question.
+    - Posted at Anaconda.com, instead of conda.org because a lot of the post is about Anaconda products (the ones that can cost money). There is a link to it on conda.org.
+
+- [x] WV: Results of the vote on Bas for conda steering
+    - 9 / 14 voted (64.29%)
+    - 8 / 14 yes (57.14%)
+    - 1 abstain
+    - WV will rerun the vote
+