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| # 2022-06-22 Conda Community Meeting | ||
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| * [Meeting link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09) | ||
| * [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2022-06-22/17:00/b/Conda%20community%20meeting) | ||
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| ## Attendees | ||
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| | Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username | | ||
| | -------------------------| -------- | ------------- | ------------------ | | ||
| | Jannis Leidel | JL | Anaconda | jezdez | | ||
| | Dave Clements | DPC | Anaconda | tnabtaf | | ||
| | Bianca Henderson | BH | Anaconda | beeankha | | ||
| | Filipe Fernandes | FF | conda-forge | ocefpaf | | ||
| | John Kirkham | JK | cf/NVIDIA | jakirkham | | ||
| | Daniel Holth | DH | Anaconda | dholth | | ||
| | Ken Odegard | KO | Anaconda | kenodegard | | ||
| | Marius van Niekerk | MvN | Voltron Data | mariusvniekerk | | ||
| | Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | kathatherine | | ||
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| 11 people present | ||
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| ## Introductions | ||
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| ## Announcements | ||
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| * (MRB, absent, please read out) Please remember to vote on adding Jaime to the steering council | ||
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| * (MRB, absent, please read out) Please send comments on the new governance PR (https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/pull/51) | ||
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| * (JL) CEP 6 vote passed and implemenation is on the final stretch | ||
| * https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/blob/main/cep-6.md | ||
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| * (JL) Intention to call for vote for Code of Conduct proposal | ||
| * https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/pull/49 | ||
| * Steering Council Input still welcome! | ||
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| * (JL) NEW! Public "planning" project board for some conda projects: | ||
| * https://github.com/orgs/conda/projects/2 | ||
| * Single source of truth for Open Source efforts, including some agile ceremonies of the conda team at Anaconda | ||
| * Open for feedback and hopefully improves visibility of priorities | ||
| * Covers a number of dimensions of project management: | ||
| * issue sorting | ||
| * support requests | ||
| * backlog review | ||
| * sprint planning | ||
| * sprint review | ||
| * documentation issues | ||
| * epics | ||
| * tentative roadmap plans | ||
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| * (JL) NEW! CEP project board to track pull requests and issues: | ||
| * https://github.com/orgs/conda-incubator/projects/1 | ||
| * Also accessible via https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/projects?type=beta | ||
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| * (JL) Reminder: conda development sprint at SciPy 2022 in Austin July 16/17 | ||
| * focus on getting beginners to contribute | ||
| * no need to commit to specific features or shipping code | ||
| * informal event to talk about all things conda (and friends) | ||
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| * (JL) New constructor community team | ||
| * Formally transfers constructor, menuinst and conda-pack from "federated" to "community" project status. See governance policy for more info on ["federated projects"](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance#community-federated--attic-maintenance) | ||
| * New team consists of 10 members of the community | ||
| * Ticket: https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/issues/53 | ||
| * conda team: https://github.com/orgs/conda-incubator/teams/constructor/members | ||
| * conda-incubator team: https://github.com/orgs/conda/teams/constructor/members | ||
| * Goals are: | ||
| * improve maintenance of these fundamental projects of the eco system | ||
| * unblock contributions from community members (e.g. Jaime's work via Napari) | ||
| * have a common code base for "installers" in the ecosystem | ||
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| * (JL) conda-zsh-completions moved to conda-incubator | ||
| * Author esc reached out and asked to transfer it, thank you for years of maintenance! | ||
| * https://twitter.com/esc___/status/1536702772128759809 | ||
| * Goal is to hand-over maintenance to community and align with other people interested in improved shell integration | ||
| * New team with broader name "conda-completions": | ||
| * https://github.com/orgs/conda-incubator/teams/conda-completions | ||
| * May be realigned in future if plans for shell integration change | ||
| * Contributors and feedback welcome! | ||
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| ## New Agenda Items | ||
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| * (JK) Handling other shells ( https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/6820 ) | ||
| * Apple uses zsh by default on macOS | ||
| * https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/4/18651872/apple-macos-catalina-zsh-bash-shell-replacement-features | ||
| * Fish also sees a fair bit of usage | ||
| * https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/7993 | ||
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| * (JL) Consolidating conda CLA information into conda/infra repo | ||
| * https://github.com/conda/infra/issues/564 | ||
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| * (DPC) [Fiscal Sponsorship Proposal](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/issues/54) | ||
| * Fiscal sponsorship allows us to accept funding and manage trademarks. Creates conda as a legal entity | ||
| * Submissions are due by July 15, which means we need input soon, so we can finish voting before that. | ||
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| * (KK) [Conda capitalization](https://github.com/conda/conda-docs/issues/803) | ||
| * If you care to comment, please do! | ||
| * Main consensus currently is to follow what Git does. Git for organization/program, git for command | ||
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| * (DH) [conda-package-streaming](https://github.com/conda-incubator/conda-package-streaming) | ||
| * Coming soon | ||
| * Downloads partial conda packages (both formats) for quick metadata inspection or any in-memory use | ||
| * Byproduct of conda-index improvements | ||
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| ## What is this meeting for? | ||
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| Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call. |
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| # 2022-07-06 Conda Community Meeting | ||
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| * [Meeting link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09) | ||
| * [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2022-07-06/17:00/b/Conda%20community%20meeting) | ||
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| ## Attendees | ||
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| | Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username | | ||
| | -------------------------| -------- | ------------- | ------------------ | | ||
| | Marius van Niekerk | MvN | Voltron Data | mariusvniekerk | | ||
| | Dave Clements | DPC | Anaconda | tnabtaf | | ||
| | Matthew Becker | MRB | cf | beckermr | | ||
| | Eric Dill | ED | Voltron Data | ericdill | | ||
| | Bianca Henderson | BH | Anaconda | beeankha | | ||
| | Daniel Ching | DJC | Argonne | carterbox | | ||
| | Jannis Leidel | JL | Anaconda | jezdez | | ||
| | Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra | JRG | Quansight/cf | jaimergp | | ||
| | Filipe Fernandes | FF | conda-forge | ocefpaf | | ||
| | Cheng H. Lee | CHL | Anaconda | chenghlee | | ||
| | Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | kathatherine | | ||
| | Ken Odegard | KO | Anaconda | kenodegard | | ||
| | Sebastien Awwad | SA | Anaconda | awwad | | ||
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| 19 people present | ||
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| ## Introductions | ||
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| ## Announcements | ||
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| - [x] (JL) New constructor team and move of constructor, conda-pack and menuinst from "federated" to "community" projects (following the conda governance policy) | ||
| - [ ] mixed maintainer team from Anaconda and other organizations | ||
| - [ ] conda-standalone possibly also covered (but no separate repo at the moment yet) | ||
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| - [x] Ongoing vote to adopt a new Code of Conduct for conda, steering council members, please vote! | ||
| - [ ] https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/pull/49 | ||
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| - [x] CEP 6 (Channel notices) accepted and merged! | ||
| - [ ] https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/11462 | ||
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| - [x] (BH) Plugins updates | ||
| - [Conda plugins mechanism CEP](https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/32/files?short_path=f0e66da#diff-f0e66dabb51091adcea87317af330c0bdca833ee855341d963e6d634fe3179d6) is on the `conda-incubator` repo and ready for review/discussion! It's related to [this plugins PR](https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/11435) | ||
| - An introductory blog post has been drafted and will be published once the plugins mechanism CEP is voted on/approved and the plugins PR is merged | ||
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| - [x] (CHL) SciPy 2022 events | ||
| - Fri 11:30 - 12:00 (Room 203): conda-forge maintainers talk | ||
| - Sat/Sun, all day (Room TBD): sprints | ||
| - (Planned) Lightning talk - governance updates | ||
| - Community attendees: Marius, Wolf, Bianca, Jannis, Cheng | ||
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| ## New Agenda Items | ||
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| - [x] (JRG) CEP: Technical specification for creation, modification and deletion of conda environments | ||
| - [PR](https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/29) | ||
| - (MRB+others) We don't want breaking changes in this CEP. We want to decide what is a core spec and what is not. | ||
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| - [x] (MRB) Any updates on sha256 and/or .conda? | ||
| - (CHL) `.conda` support live in prod; upload supported with anaconda-client 1.10.0 | ||
| - (CHL) Still verifying `.conda` packages sync to CDN for conda-forge, bioconda, etc. | ||
| - (CHL) SHA256 completed development; in testing, should be rolled out in next release | ||
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| - [x] (DPC) [Fiscal Sponsorship application](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/issues/54) is due in 9 days. | ||
| - Will submit a vote call today. | ||
| - Will submit application by deadline | ||
| - Will withdraw if vote does not pass | ||
| - Will combine with [governance vote](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/pull/51) into a single vote. | ||
| - Vote will be open for two weeks. | ||
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| - [x] (DJC) Should higher build numbers always take precedence when package version is the same? i.e. how to make cuda variants preferred over non-cuda variants? | ||
| - https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/11581 | ||
| - Conda-forge docs imply this works for MPI variants https://conda-forge.org/docs/maintainer/knowledge_base.html#mpi-variants-in-conda-forge | ||
| - Could add [`track_features` to deprioritize](https://docs.conda.io/projects/conda-build/en/latest/resources/define-metadata.html#track-features), but that's kinda(?) discouraged. This is the behavior used in conda-forge for things like `"python *pypy"`, `"arrow-cpp *-cuda"` | ||
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| - [x] (JRG) conda-libmamba-solver 22.6 is out! | ||
| - It works on your `base` environment! | ||
| - Compatible with conda-build | ||
| - Some fixes and performance improvements | ||
| - (MRB) how is mamba pinned for this one? are we post 0.24 so we don't break things for other bugz? | ||
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| - [x] (KK) CEP: conda Capitalization | ||
| - https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/31 | ||
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| - [x] (DPC) PSA: Communication channel consolidation? | ||
| - We have too many places for people to ask questions / make announcements relevant to conda. | ||
| - Look for a proposal later this summer. | ||
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| - [x] (KO) CEP: Conda Release Schedule | ||
| - https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/26 | ||
| - Proposes bimonthly regular releases (Janurary, March, May, July, September, November) | ||
| - Proposes using CalVer (YY.MM.MICRO) | ||
| - We are planning to cut a new conda release (4.14.0/22.7.0) by the end of July | ||
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| ## What is this meeting for? | ||
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| Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call. |
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| # 2022-07-20 Conda Community Meeting | ||
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| * [Meeting link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09) | ||
| * [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2022-07-20/17:00/b/Conda%20community%20meeting) | ||
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| ## Attendees | ||
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| | Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username | | ||
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| | Travis Hathaway | TH | Anaconda | travishathaway | | ||
| | Ken Odegard | KO | Anaconda | kenodegard | | ||
| | Matthew Becker | MRB | cf | beckermr | | ||
| | Eric Dill | EDD | voltrondata | ericdill | | ||
| | Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra | JRG | Quansight/cf | jaimergp | | ||
| | Cheng H. Lee | CHL | Anaconda | chenghlee | | ||
| | Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | kathatherine | | ||
| | Daniel J. Ching | DJC | Argonne | carterbox | | ||
| | Bianca Henderson | BH | Anaconda | beeankha | | ||
| | Carl Anderson | CA | Anaconda | barabo | | ||
| | Daniel Holth | DH | Anaconda | dholth | | ||
| | Marcelo Duarte Trevisani | MDT | conda-forge | marcelotrevisani | | ||
| | Jannis Leidel | JL | Anaconda/cf | jezdez | | ||
| | John Kirkham | JK | NVIDIA/cf | jakirkham | | ||
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| 21 people present | ||
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| ## Introductions | ||
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| - Jason McAllister: Anaconda PM for Navigator and Anaconda.org | ||
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| ## Announcements | ||
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| - (JL) New and improved Code of Conduct! | ||
| - https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/pull/49 | ||
| - New Code of Conduct team responsible via the conda governance policy | ||
| - Thank you for all volunteers for that new team!! | ||
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| - (CHL; JM) Update on Anaconda.org SHA-256 package checksums | ||
| - Final stages of testing; should see release in ~3 weeks | ||
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| - (BH; JH) `conda rename` got merged! | ||
| - https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/3097 | ||
| - https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/11496 | ||
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| ## New Agenda Items | ||
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| - (CHL) Publishing event to Scientific Python calendar | ||
| - https://scientific-python.org/calendars/ | ||
| - (JRG) we will need to make sure we are serving the needs for a broader audience in the right way: | ||
| - Process for the agenda: open on Monday, close on Tuesday, discuss on Wednesday, to avoid too much noise in the meeting | ||
| - Recordings? | ||
| - Meeting notes: who is in charge of writing things down, and update the community website accordingly | ||
| - In essence, make it nice for everyone who wants to join | ||
| - There must be resources out there set by other communities we can reuse / be inspired by | ||
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| - (WV) conda env removal | ||
| - https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/11633 | ||
| - (WV) does it go too far? :) | ||
| - (KO) not advocating for its removal (ATM), rather to freeze it until everything gets sorted | ||
| - Need UX research to understand how different user personas interact with existing commands (e.g., experienced vs new users) | ||
| - (JRG) Generally Inconsistency in commands and flags | ||
| - (MRB) `conda env export` is something we definitely need to keep | ||
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| - (KK) conda.org website planning introduction | ||
| - https://github.com/conda-incubator/conda.org | ||
| - #conda-dot-org on conda slack channel | ||
| - looking for community input | ||
| - Also looking for help on how we manage such a website in a sustainable way (content moderation, maintenance, new features, etc.) | ||
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| - (JRG) Custom S3 channels documentation / tests? | ||
| - (JL) Will ask internally at Anaconda if other teams have worked on this | ||
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| - (DJC) CFEP License packages for header-only/static libraries | ||
| - https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/47 | ||
| - tl;dr header-only/static library packages should run_export an empty package (which contains the license text) | ||
| - (WV) Should this be a `run_export`, or should we add a new `license_export` key to conda-build? | ||
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| Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call. |
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| # 2022-08-03 Conda Community Meeting | ||
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| * [Meeting link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09) | ||
| * [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2022-08-03/17:00/b/Conda%20community%20meeting) | ||
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| ## Attendees | ||
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| | Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username | | ||
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| | Jannis Leidel | JL | Anaconda/cf | jezdez | | ||
| | Ken Odegard | KO | Anaconda | kenodegard | | ||
| | Travis Hathaway | TH | Anaconda | travishathaway | | ||
| | Dave Clements | DPC | Anaconda | tnabtaf | | ||
| | Filipe Fernandes | FF | conda-forge | ocefpaf | | ||
| | Sebastien Awwad | SA | Anaconda | awwad | | ||
| | Cheng H. Lee | CHL | Anaconda/cf | chenghlee | | ||
| | Eric Dill | EDD | voltrondata/cf | ericdill | | ||
| | Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | kathatherine | | ||
| | Cheuk Ho | CH | Anaconda | Cheukting | | ||
| | John Kirkham | JK | NVIDIA/cf | jakirkham | | ||
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| ## Introductions | ||
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| * Cheuk Ho | ||
| * Srivas Venkatash | ||
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| ## Announcements | ||
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| - [x] (JL) Proposing/call for votes on [Plugins Mechanism Implementation CEP](https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/32) | ||
| - [x] (JL; KO) Proposing/call for votes on [Conda Release Schedule CEP](https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/26) | ||
| - [x] (KO) conda 4.14.0 and conda-build 3.22.0 releases are being tagged/published today | ||
| - https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/11653 | ||
| - https://github.com/conda/conda-build/issues/4542 | ||
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| ## New Agenda Items | ||
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| - [x] (TH) Should we form a project group for Plugins? Assuming it passes the vote :-) | ||
| - (TH) Project groups: how do those work? Do we have other initiatives that deserve a separate project group? | ||
| - (JL) Link for regular subteams (needs 50% of votes) https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance#sub-team-formation | ||
| - (JL) Alternative could be an incubating project team, which just needs one steering council member to create it: https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance#incubation (with added barrier to later move to conda org) | ||
| - [x] (DPC) Call for Outreachy Intern project proposals | ||
| - If we can get funding from Anaconda, do we have any projects and mentors for an Outreachy intern? | ||
| - Community applications are due in a little over a month. Project submissions will be due sometime after that. | ||
| - [x] (DPC) Call to consolidate conda community channels into fewer and better advertised locations | ||
| - Proposal | ||
| - Chat (Gitter, Element/Matrix, Slack,...) | ||
| - Longer form / Forum (Discourse,...) | ||
| - Close down any channels we don't embrace | ||
| - Redirect those posting on other channels (Twitter, Facebook) to our select channels | ||
| - (JRG) Ideas from other communities: | ||
| - Napari uses [Zulip](https://napari.zulipchat.com/) for almost everything, but it's also part of large ["scientific imaging" Discourse instance](https://forum.image.sc/) - there's a bot syncing some stuff between sources. | ||
| - Jupyter has... [a bunch](https://jupyter.org/community#participate-online) of platforms, including Discourse, Gitter and Mailing lists. | ||
| - Numpy has [a simpler approach](https://numpy.org/community/) | ||
| - Historical resources for conda support: https://docs.conda.io/en/latest/help-support.html | ||
| - Next steps: CEP, probably. DPC will reach out to conda-forge, bioconda to get their input. | ||
| - [x] (JRG) Github archeology request for constructor: why was conda-standalone introduced and what is the expected behaviour? Should it really run a full solve at install time? That prevents a number of constructor v2 features from working (`exclude`, forced reinstalls). | ||
| - https://github.com/conda/constructor/issues/319 | ||
| - (MS) Probably an oversight that we're using conda-standalone. Definitely shouldn't be a reason to run a full solve when installing. | ||
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