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Feature request: Adopt Citation File Format (CITATION.cff file) #508
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Thanks for suggesting this @apirogov. Indeed the idea to adopt CFF has been discussed before, and has been a goal for a while. But adoption has been delayed by questions over the best way to implement it: ideally creation and curation of a CFF would be integrated into a more general workflow for populating lesson metadata and using that information in lesson publications to Zenodo. Here are a couple of examples of related discussions: There have been a few threads on Slack too, I think. And although I am not currently a member I remember this was a regular topic of discussion in the Curriculum Team over the last few years as well. The good news is that the new lesson infrastructure has made this a lot easier, by simplifying the commit history of a lesson project to make it a more accurate representation of who has contributed. But we are still some way off being able to implement a workflow for lesson publication, which would be roughly a combination of the following:
(Among other things the HERMES Project is being explored for this.) So there are two things here:
I know the Curriculum Team has quite limited capacity to support developing any new features at the moment, but this is on the list. Finallly, a question for you. I love the |
Very happy to hear that this is already being discussed! I anticipated that a proper adoption would require quite some more thought. We of course would be quite delighted to get even the basic support, to be able to "lead by example" with the "scientific metadata" incubator lesson. However its absolutely understandable that there are more pressing issues :) The boundary can be fluid sometimes (e.g. you publish a dataset with some bits of analysis code, etc.), but in the end I would ask - how is the published entity to be used? I am not an expert / am not involved in the Citation File spec development, but to the best of my understanding, it should be classified as
(@sdruskat can maybe chime in and correct me if I'm wrong, he's the expert both for CFF as well as HERMES 🙂 ) |
Hi friends 👋, Just a quick .2ct: I agree that |
Thanks @sdruskat and @apirogov. In terms of adopting CFF for lesson repositories, the addition of contributor roles to the CFF specification would be a huge bonus to us. I notice this is slated for inclusion in an upcoming release (citation-file-format/citation-file-format#338 & citation-file-format/citation-file-format#112). Timetables and predictions are difficult things, and I know you all have many other irons in the fire as well, but do you have any expectation for when this might be rolled out? |
Thanks for your patience @tobyhodges! I think we're currently looking at Q1-Q2 2024 for the release of 1.3.0. |
#572 and carpentries/varnish#122 were merged today, adding minimal support for CFF to the lesson infrastructure by allowing the Cite link in the page footer to target a From my side, this will allow me to document the feature (carpentries/sandpaper-docs#188) and encourage people with existing lesson projects to use it (carpentries/lesson-development-training#350), and to modify the template repositories used for brand new lessons to include a template CITATION.cff file with a bunch of FIXME values (carpentries/workbench-template-md#41 & carpentries/workbench-template-rmd#65). What else would you like to see before this issue could be closed @apirogov? |
Following up to say that the minimal CFF support described above was included in varnish v1.0.2, released today thanks to @froggleston and @ErinBecker. |
Sorry for the late reply, thanks a lot for the great work! From my point of view, when the remaining few issues you linked are resolved and CITATION.cff is established as the new "default" for new lessons, I'm perfectly happy and this can be closed :) |
All of the above have now been taken care of. I opened #583 to apply the template to sandpaper itself, so that new lessons built locally with the |
There is a nice standard to express citation metadata information in a structured way for e.g. software or data publications: https://citation-file-format.github.io/
This format also has support by Github and is supported by Github-to-Zenodo pipelines:
There are also already visual tools to help filling the file with information: https://citation-file-format.github.io/cff-initializer-javascript/#/
Also, there are tools to check its validity (e.g. usable as part of the CI): https://github.com/citation-file-format/cffconvert/tree/main/cffconvert
It would be great if the Carpentries would adopt this best-practice standard by using
CITATION.cff
as the way to state the citation information, instead of linking to a (possibly non-existing) plain-textCITATION
file.Ideally, all courses would have a valid
CITATION.cff
file and this would be part of the standard template from which a lesson is initialized.The minimal suggestion would be to at least allow relinking the "Cite" link at the bottom to point to a CITATION.cff file.
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