stk500v1 and ATmega32u4 #1769

mcuee · 2024-04-21T09:52:15Z

mcuee
Apr 21, 2024
Maintainer

Interestingly I find out that stk500v1 does not seem to be able to connect to ATmega32u4, no issues with ATmega8A/128A/168P/328P/2560.

Make default EEPROM readback values 0xff for STK500 v1 programmer #1753

Tested under macOS with git main, PR #1573 and older verson of avrdude as well. I may try Linux as well later.

mcuee@mcuees-Mac-mini ~ % avrdude -c stk500v1 -P /dev/tty.usbserial-1110 -p m32u4
avrdude error: no device
avrdude error: initialization failed, rc=-1
        - double check the connections and try again
        - use -B to set lower the bit clock frequency, e.g. -B 125kHz
        - use -F to override this check

avrdude done.  Thank you.

mcuee@mcuees-Mac-mini avrdude_bin % ./avrdude63_x64 -C ./avrdude63_x64.conf -c stk500v1 -P /dev/tty.usbserial-1110 -p m32u4

avrdude63_x64: stk500_program_enable(): no device
avrdude63_x64: initialization failed, rc=-1
               Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
               this check.


avrdude63_x64 done.  Thank you.

Answered by mcuee

Apr 21, 2024

So looks like STK500v1 FW can not communicate with ATmega32U4. Not so sure if there are other classic AVR chips it can not communicate with.

@dl8dtl and @MCUdude
If you got some time, please help to confirm as well.

@stefanrueger
This looks like a FW issue. I just add a FAQ entry here.
https://github.com/avrdudes/avrdude/wiki/FAQ#i-have-the-official-stk500-board-shall-i-run-v1-fw-or-v2-fw
I have the official STK500 board, shall I run V1 FW or V2 FW?
It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to V2 FW. Some of the classic AVR chips may not be supported by V1 FW (eg: ATmega32U4).

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mcuee · 2024-04-21T09:52:54Z

mcuee
Apr 21, 2024
Maintainer Author

@dl8dtl
Just wondering if you think this is a FW limitation or not. Thanks.

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mcuee Apr 21, 2024
Maintainer Author

~~However, avrdude 6.3 seems to work if using -F.~~
Edit -- no, it cannot either.

mcuee@UbuntuSwift3 ~/build/avr/avrdude_release/avrdude-6.3 $ ./avrdude -C ./avrdude.conf -c stk500v1 -P /dev/ttyUSB0 -p m32u4

avrdude: stk500_program_enable(): no device
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
         Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
         this check.


avrdude done.  Thank you.

mcuee@UbuntuSwift3 ~/build/avr/avrdude_release/avrdude-6.3 $ ./avrdude -C ./avrdude.conf -c stk500v1 -P /dev/ttyUSB0 -p m32u4 -F

avrdude: stk500_program_enable(): no device
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
avrdude: Device signature = 0x209e42
avrdude: Expected signature for ATmega32U4 is 1E 95 87

avrdude done.  Thank you.

mcuee Apr 21, 2024
Maintainer Author

avrdue 7.0 behaves like avrdude 6.3.

mcuee@UbuntuSwift3 ~/build/avr/avrdude_release/avrdude-7.0 $ ./avrdude -C ./avrdude.conf -c stk500v1 -P /dev/ttyUSB0 -p m32u4 -F

avrdude: stk500_program_enable(): no device
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
avrdude: Device signature = 0xa0e50b
avrdude: Expected signature for ATmega32U4 is 1E 95 87

avrdude done.  Thank you.

avrdude 7.1 started to have a bit of different behaviors with -F.

mcuee@UbuntuSwift3 ~/build/avr/avrdude_release/avrdude-7.1/build_linux/src $ ./avrdude -C ./avrdude.conf -c stk500v1 -P /dev/ttyUSB0 -p m32u4 -F

avrdude error: no device
avrdude error: initialization failed, rc=-1
        - double check the connections and try again
        - use -B to set lower ISP clock frequency, e.g. -B 125kHz
avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
avrdude: device signature = 0x000000 (retrying)
avrdude: device signature = 0x000000 (retrying)
avrdude: device signature = 0x000000
avrdude error: Yikes!  Invalid device signature.
avrdude warning: expected signature for ATmega32U4 is 1E 95 87

avrdude done.  Thank you.

mcuee Apr 21, 2024
Maintainer Author

Full debug log for avrdude 7.0.

mcuee@UbuntuSwift3 ~/build/avr/avrdude_release/avrdude-7.0 $ ./avrdude -C ./avrdude.conf -c stk500v1 -P /dev/ttyUSB0 -p m32u4 -F -vvvv
sys_config = ./avrdude.conf
sys_config_found = false


avrdude: Version 7.0
         Copyright (c) Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/
         Copyright (c) Joerg Wunsch

         System wide configuration file is "./avrdude.conf"
         User configuration file is "/home/mcuee/.avrduderc"
         User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping

         Using Port                    : /dev/ttyUSB0
         Using Programmer              : stk500v1
avrdude: Send: 0 [30]   [20] 
avrdude: Send: 0 [30]   [20] 
avrdude: Send: 0 [30]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
         AVR Part                      : ATmega32U4
         Chip Erase delay              : 9000 us
         PAGEL                         : PD7
         BS2                           : PA0
         RESET disposition             : dedicated
         RETRY pulse                   : SCK
         Serial program mode           : yes
         Parallel program mode         : yes
         Timeout                       : 200
         StabDelay                     : 100
         CmdexeDelay                   : 25
         SyncLoops                     : 32
         PollIndex                     : 3
         PollValue                     : 0x53
         Memory Detail                 :

                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           eeprom                 65    20     4    0 no       1024    4      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           flash                  65     6   128    0 yes     32768  128    256  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           lfuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           hfuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           efuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           lock                    0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           calibration             0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           signature               0     0     0    0 no          3    1      0     0     0 0x00 0x00

         Programmer Type : STK500
         Description     : Atmel STK500 Version 1.x firmware
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [80]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [02] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [81]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [01] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [82]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [0e] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [98]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [03] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
         Hardware Version: 2
         Firmware Version: 1.14
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [84]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: 5 [35] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [85]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: 4 [34] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [86]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [01] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [87]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [00] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [89]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [04] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
         Vtarget         : 5.3 V
         Varef           : 5.2 V
         Oscillator      : 3.686 MHz
         SCK period      : 4.4 us

avrdude: Send: A [41] . [81]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [01] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [82]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [0e] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: B [42] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [01] . [01] . [01] . [01] . [03] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [80] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [80] . [00]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: E [45] . [05] . [04] . [d7] . [a0] . [00]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 
avrdude: Send: P [50]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [13] 
avrdude: stk500_program_enable(): no device
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
avrdude: Device signature = 0x30d129
avrdude: Expected signature for ATmega32U4 is 1E 95 87
avrdude: Send: Q [51]   [20] 
avrdude: Recv: . [14] 
avrdude: Recv: . [10] 

avrdude done.  Thank you.

Full debug log for avrdude 7.1.

mcuee@UbuntuSwift3 ~/build/avr/avrdude_release/avrdude-7.1/build_linux/src $ ./avrdude -C ./avrdude.conf -c stk500v1 -P /dev/ttyUSB0 -p m32u4 -F -vvvv

avrdude: Version 7.1
         Copyright the AVRDUDE authors;
         see https://github.com/avrdudes/avrdude/blob/main/AUTHORS

         System wide configuration file is /home/mcuee/build/avr/avrdude_release/avrdude-7.1/build_linux/src/avrdude.conf
         User configuration file is /home/mcuee/.avrduderc
         User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping

         Using Port                    : /dev/ttyUSB0
         Using Programmer              : stk500v1
avrdude: send: 0 [30]   [20] 
avrdude: send: 0 [30]   [20] 
avrdude: send: 0 [30]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
         AVR Part                      : ATmega32U4
         Chip Erase delay              : 9000 us
         PAGEL                         : PD7
         BS2                           : PA0
         RESET disposition             : possible i/o
         RETRY pulse                   : SCK
         Serial program mode           : yes
         Parallel program mode         : yes
         Timeout                       : 200
         StabDelay                     : 100
         CmdexeDelay                   : 25
         SyncLoops                     : 32
         PollIndex                     : 3
         PollValue                     : 0x53
         Memory Detail                 :

                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           eeprom                 65    20     4    0 no       1024    4      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           flash                  65     6   128    0 yes     32768  128    256  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           lfuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           hfuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           efuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           lock                    0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           signature               0     0     0    0 no          3    1      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           calibration             0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0     0     0 0x00 0x00

         Programmer Type : STK500
         Description     : Atmel STK500 version 1.x firmware
avrdude: send: A [41] . [80]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [02] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: A [41] . [81]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [01] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: A [41] . [82]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [0e] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: A [41] . [98]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [03] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
         Hardware Version: 2
         Firmware Version: 1.14
avrdude: send: A [41] . [84]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: 5 [35] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: A [41] . [85]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: 4 [34] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: A [41] . [86]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [01] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: A [41] . [87]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [00] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: A [41] . [89]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [04] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
         Vtarget         : 5.3 V
         Varef           : 5.2 V
         Oscillator      : 3.686 MHz
         SCK period      : 4.4 us

avrdude: send: A [41] . [81]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [01] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: A [41] . [82]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [0e] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: B [42] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [01] . [01] . [01] . [01] . [03] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [80] . [04] . [00] . [00] . [00] . [80] . [00]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: E [45] . [05] . [04] . [d7] . [a0] . [01]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 
avrdude: send: P [50]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [13] 
avrdude stk500_program_enable() [stk500.c:241] error: no device
avrdude main() [main.c:1246] error: initialization failed, rc=-1
        - double check the connections and try again
        - use -B to set lower ISP clock frequency, e.g. -B 125kHz
avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
avrdude: device signature = 0x000000 (retrying)
avrdude: device signature = 0x000000 (retrying)
avrdude: device signature = 0x000000
avrdude main() [main.c:1349] error: Yikes!  Invalid device signature.
avrdude main() [main.c:1364] warning: expected signature for ATmega32U4 is 1E 95 87
avrdude: send: Q [51]   [20] 
avrdude: recv: . [14] 
avrdude: recv: . [10] 

avrdude done.  Thank you.

mcuee Apr 21, 2024
Maintainer Author

So looks like STK500v1 FW can not communicate with ATmega32U4. Not so sure if there are other classic AVR chips it can not communicate with.

@dl8dtl and @MCUdude
If you got some time, please help to confirm as well.

@stefanrueger
This looks like a FW issue. I just add a FAQ entry here.
https://github.com/avrdudes/avrdude/wiki/FAQ#i-have-the-official-stk500-board-shall-i-run-v1-fw-or-v2-fw
I have the official STK500 board, shall I run V1 FW or V2 FW?
It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to V2 FW. Some of the classic AVR chips may not be supported by V1 FW (eg: ATmega32U4).

Answer selected by stefanrueger

stefanrueger Apr 28, 2024
Maintainer

@mcuee I think it's best to recommend upgrading to FW v2 rather than us bending over backwards to make FW 1 work with the m32u4

mcuee · 2024-04-21T09:56:47Z

mcuee
Apr 21, 2024
Maintainer Author

~~Hmm, strange, I tested with an STK500v2 clone (with ATmega8535 and official V2 FW) and it has the same issue.~~

mcuee@mcuees-Mac-mini ~ % avrdude -c stk500v2 -P /dev/tty.usbserial-1110 -p m32u4
avrdude error: command failed
avrdude error: initialization failed, rc=-1
        - double check the connections and try again
        - use -B to set lower the bit clock frequency, e.g. -B 125kHz
        - use -F to override this check

avrdude done.  Thank you.

Edit -- sorry, false alarm, connection issue.

avrdude version 7.3-20240417 (8fe729f0), https://github.com/avrdudes/avrdude
mcuee@mcuees-Mac-mini ~ % avrdude -c stk500v2 -P /dev/tty.usbserial-1110 -p m32u4
avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
avrdude: device signature = 0x1e9587 (probably m32u4)

avrdude done.  Thank you.

1 reply

mcuee Apr 21, 2024
Maintainer Author

No issues with AVRISP mkii.

mcuee@mcuees-Mac-mini ~ % avrdude -c avrisp2 -p m32u4
avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
avrdude: device signature = 0x1e9587 (probably m32u4)

avrdude done.  Thank you.

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