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@zanieb zanieb commented Oct 21, 2025

I had some qualms with #16318

  1. The snapshot was specific to uv's managed interpreter due to inclusion of the externally-managed output. This will break downstream distros. We either need to filter the message, or, as done here, install a managed interpreter.
  2. It had a custom filter for the interpreter path, which we shouldn't need. If needed, we should fix that in the test context.
  3. We already had an implicit hint to create a virtual environment. The change in styling of the new hint hint following it is confusing. It's also confusing to hint creating a virtual environment when --system was used.
  4. There were unresolved requested changes to the language for the message / it didn't fit stylistic with our existing ones.
  5. The message was also very confusing for a uv-managed interpreter, which is both a "system" Python interpreter (in that it's global) and the opposite of a "system" interpreter per UV_PYTHON_PREFERENCE.

Also problematic, but not addressed here, is that there are other commands that display an externally-managed message, e.g., uv pip sync, but #16318 was just limited to pip install. We should not just implement this in one place — I'll open a tracking issue to consolidate and reuse the logic.

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zanieb commented Oct 21, 2025

cc @cmnemoi maybe a few things to learn from here

@zanieb zanieb merged commit 0959763 into main Oct 21, 2025
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### [`v0.9.7`](https://github.com/astral-sh/uv/blob/HEAD/CHANGELOG.md#097)

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Released on 2025-10-30.

##### Enhancements

- Add Windows x86-32 emulation support to interpreter architecture checks ([#&#8203;13475](astral-sh/uv#13475))
- Improve readability of progress bars ([#&#8203;16509](astral-sh/uv#16509))
- Add GitHub attestations for uv release artifacts ([#&#8203;11357](astral-sh/uv#11357))

##### Bug fixes

- Drop terminal coloring from `uv auth token` output ([#&#8203;16504](astral-sh/uv#16504))
- Don't use UV\_LOCKED to enable `--check` flag ([#&#8203;16521](astral-sh/uv#16521))

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Released on 2025-10-29.

This release contains an upgrade to Astral's fork of `async_zip`, which addresses potential sources of ZIP parsing differentials between uv and other Python packaging tooling. See [GHSA-pqhf-p39g-3x64](GHSA-pqhf-p39g-3x64) for additional details.

##### Security

- Address ZIP parsing differentials ([GHSA-pqhf-p39g-3x64](GHSA-pqhf-p39g-3x64))

##### Python

- Upgrade GraalPy to 25.0.1 ([#&#8203;16401](astral-sh/uv#16401))

##### Enhancements

- Add `--clear` to `uv build` to remove old build artifacts ([#&#8203;16371](astral-sh/uv#16371))
- Add `--no-create-gitignore` to `uv build` ([#&#8203;16369](astral-sh/uv#16369))
- Do not error when a virtual environment directory cannot be removed due to a busy error ([#&#8203;16394](astral-sh/uv#16394))
- Improve hint on `pip install --system` when externally managed ([#&#8203;16392](astral-sh/uv#16392))
- Running `uv lock --check` with outdated lockfile will print that `--check` was passed, instead of `--locked`  ([#&#8203;16322](astral-sh/uv#16322))
- Update `uv init` template for Maturin ([#&#8203;16449](astral-sh/uv#16449))
- Improve ordering of Python sources in logs ([#&#8203;16463](astral-sh/uv#16463))
- Restore DockerHub release images and annotations ([#&#8203;16441](astral-sh/uv#16441))

##### Bug fixes

- Check for matching Python implementation during `uv python upgrade` ([#&#8203;16420](astral-sh/uv#16420))
- Deterministically order `--find-links` distributions ([#&#8203;16446](astral-sh/uv#16446))
- Don't panic in `uv export --frozen` when the lockfile is outdated ([#&#8203;16407](astral-sh/uv#16407))
- Fix root of `uv tree` when `--package` is used with circular dependencies ([#&#8203;15908](astral-sh/uv#15908))
- Show package list with `pip freeze --quiet` ([#&#8203;16491](astral-sh/uv#16491))
- Limit `uv auth login pyx.dev` retries to 60s ([#&#8203;16498](astral-sh/uv#16498))
- Add an empty group with `uv add --group ... -r ...` ([#&#8203;16490](astral-sh/uv#16490))

##### Documentation

- Update docs for maturin build backend init template ([#&#8203;16469](astral-sh/uv#16469))
- Update docs to reflect previous changes to signal forwarding semantics ([#&#8203;16430](astral-sh/uv#16430))
- Add instructions for installing via MacPorts ([#&#8203;16039](astral-sh/uv#16039))

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