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Change: Increase China Nuke Missile damage by 20% and blasts radii by 2%, 3.3%, 4%, 4.4%, 4.7%, 20% #871

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@xezon xezon commented Aug 12, 2022

Fixes #846

This change increase China Nuke Missiles damage by 20% and blast radii by 2%, 3.3%, 4%, 4.4%, 4.7%, 20%. It becomes competitive with GLA SCUD Storm.

Lab Test

Superweapon Area Damage VS 64 GLA Black Markets (No Upgrade)

Object Num Destroyed Num Damaged Num Undamaged
Original USA Particle Cannon 14 2 48
Original GLA SCUD Storm 16 42 6
Original Demo GLA SCUD Storm 20 37 7
Original China Nuke Missile 0 32 32
Patched China Nuke Missile (6x blast) 12 20 32
Patched China Nuke Missile (this) 16 16 32

Superweapon Area Damage VS 144 USA Supply Drop Zones

Object Num Destroyed Num Damaged Num Undamaged
Original USA Particle Cannon 16 0 128
Original GLA SCUD Storm 32 30 82
Original Demo GLA SCUD Storm 33 26 85
Original China Nuke Missile 8 24 112
Patched China Nuke Missile (6x blast) 32 0 112
Patched China Nuke Missile (this) 32 20 92

Superweapon Point Damage VS SCUD Storm (Standard)

Object Damage Applied
Original USA Particle Cannon 85 %
Original GLA SCUD Storm 90 %
Original Demo GLA SCUD Storm 100 %
Original China Nuke Missile 70 %
Patched China Nuke Missile (6x blast) 70 %
Patched China Nuke Missile (this) 85 %

Superweapon Timers

Object Timer
Original USA Particle Cannon 04:00
Original GLA SCUD Storm 05:00
Original Demo GLA SCUD Storm 05:00
Original China Nuke Missile 06:00
Patched China Nuke Missile (6x blast) 06:00
Patched China Nuke Missile (this) 06:00

Videos

Original USA Particle Cannon

usa_particle_original.mp4

Original GLA SCUD Storm

gla_scud_original.mp4

Original Demo GLA SCUD Storm

demo_gla_scud_original.mp4

Original China Nuke Missile

china_nuke_original.mp4

Patched China Nuke Missile (6x blast)

china_nuke_patched1.mp4

Patched China Nuke Missile (this)

china_nuke_patched2.mp4

Conclusion

China Nuke Missile Superweapon becomes a serious threat for both USA and GLA. The GLA SCUD Storm is still the best Superweapon with its larger Area damage, but the new Nuke Missile is not trailing far behind. The USA Particle Cannon is the weakest Superweapon, but it has the lowest countdown of 4 minutes, vs 5 minutes SCUD Storm and 6 minutes Nuke Missile. USA can send invincible Auroras to apply additional Point damage against structures, but will not achieve the great Area damage of both SCUD Storm and Nuke Missile.

Stats

USA Particle Cannon

Pros:

  • Best Countdown time of 4:00
  • Good vs Buildings
  • Takes just 2 seconds to hit the target
  • (Cheap for Superweapon General: 2500)

Cons:

  • Requires Power
  • Just OK vs Units
  • Small effective area

China Nuke

Pros:

  • Good vs Buildings
  • Good vs Units
  • Large effective area
  • Takes just 6 seconds to hit the target

Cons:

  • Worst Countdown time of 6:00
  • Requires Power

GLA SCUD Storm

Pros:

  • Good vs Buildings
  • Good vs Units
  • Large effective area
  • Does not reveal if its ready to fire
  • (Camo Netting for Stealth General)

Cons:

  • Takes twice as long to build with 120 seconds
  • Takes 11 seconds until the first hit

Neutral:

  • Countdown time of 5:00

@xezon xezon added Design Is a matter of game design Controversial Is controversial Major Severity: Minor < Major < Critical < Blocker labels Aug 12, 2022
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Jundiyy commented Aug 12, 2022

I think I could live with it, seems not as scary of a change once you read through everything. Although I'm still a bit worried. Maybe keep the damage the same and have the new radius or vice versa. Or maybe 10% each.

But at the same time, I think it might just be fine.

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xezon commented Aug 12, 2022

The buff percentages read quite large indeed, but that was just to catch up to SCUD Storm. It is factually still worse than SCUD Storm, but clearly not as much. To me this looks good. China should be able to compete in Superweapon battles with this.

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MTKing4 commented Aug 12, 2022

  • Does not reveal if its ready to fire

Didn't we fix this?

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xezon commented Aug 12, 2022

Not yet, no.

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Jundiyy commented Aug 12, 2022

Another pro/con is that the PC is very fast, Nuke is also quite fast. Scud is slow. And if you include full blast time, then Scud is really slow since it had to shoot all its rockets do to the damage.

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xezon commented Aug 12, 2022

True. I tested. Particle Cannon around 2 seconds, Nuke Missile around 6 seconds, SCUD Storm around 11 seconds. Information added to comparison above.

@xezon xezon changed the title Change: Increase China Nuke Missile damage by 20% and outer radius by 20% Change: Increase China Nuke Missile damage by 20% and outer radii by 2%, 3.3%, 4%, 4.4%, 4.7%, 20% Aug 13, 2022
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xezon commented Aug 13, 2022

I noticed that the mention of a 20% radii buff is not very representative of the real consequences, because it is only the last blast that has this range buff.

The range buffs look like so.

1st Blast +2.0%
2nd Blast +3.3%
3rd Blast +4.0%
4th Blast +4.4%
5th Blast +4.7%
6th Blast +20.0%

All blasts apply the same amount of damage each. So the range buff is not as big as it seems.

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Jundiyy commented Aug 14, 2022

Seems good.

@xezon xezon changed the title Change: Increase China Nuke Missile damage by 20% and outer radii by 2%, 3.3%, 4%, 4.4%, 4.7%, 20% Change: Increase China Nuke Missile damage by 20% and outer blasts radii by 2%, 3.3%, 4%, 4.4%, 4.7%, 20% Aug 14, 2022
@xezon xezon changed the title Change: Increase China Nuke Missile damage by 20% and outer blasts radii by 2%, 3.3%, 4%, 4.4%, 4.7%, 20% Change: Increase China Nuke Missile damage by 20% and blasts radii by 2%, 3.3%, 4%, 4.4%, 4.7%, 20% Aug 14, 2022
@xezon xezon merged commit a98eb9e into main Aug 14, 2022
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