French indicator metadata cleanup by Zeitsperre · Pull Request #930 · Ouranosinc/xclim

Zeitsperre · 2021-11-17T21:50:25Z

Pull Request Checklist:

This PR addresses an already opened issue (for bug fixes / features)
- This PR fixes Better French indicator translations #929
Tests for the changes have been added (for bug fixes / features)
Documentation has been added / updated (for bug fixes / features)
HISTORY.rst has been updated (with summary of main changes)
- Link to issue (:issue:number) and pull request (:pull:number) has been added.
bumpversion patch has been called on this branch
The relevant author information has been added to .zenodo.json

What kind of change does this PR introduce?

removed a bunch of empty comment strings among the French translations
lots of grammar and phrasing changes to

Does this PR introduce a breaking change?

Yes. Many indicators translated to French will no longer have the same spelling/phrasing in their metadata fields.

Other information:

coveralls · 2021-11-17T22:33:25Z

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juliettelavoie · 2021-11-17T22:02:06Z

-    "title": "Moyenne de la température journalière moyenne",
-    "comment": "",
-    "abstract": "Moyenne de la température journalière moyenne."
+    "long_name": "Moyenne de la température journalière",


Is there a reason sometimes it is "quoditienne" et sometimes "journalière" ?

From what I understand, it has something to do with the context and the repetitive nature of the event. I won't pretend to understand the intricacies, but journalière appears to be the favoured word.

More on the differences: https://french.stackexchange.com/questions/34168/quotidiennement-ou-journalier#34169

Intéressante source @Zeitsperre !
Donc la température serait journalière, parce qu'on précise ici le pas de temps d'une variable (qui varie).

Et boboy, il faudrait donc changer ça partout pour harmoniser.

ah bon! Je ne connaissais pas cette subtilité. Je pense qu'il faudrait mettre journalière partout alors ( pour précipitation aussi)!

RondeauG · 2021-11-18T14:15:20Z

  },
  "TN_MIN": {
-    "long_name": "Minimum de la température journalière minimale",
+    "long_name": "Minimum de la température journalière",


I would leave it as it were, since this new name loses the notion that Tmin specifically was used.

@EmilieBresson je te lance dans la mêlée.

@RondeauG C'était pour éviter la répétition qui n'a pas de sens puisque le minimum du minimum c'est le minimum... (même principe avec la moyenne de la moyenne). Si ça ne passe pas au conseil OK.

Mais dans cette version-ci, à part pour le champs "description", il n'y a rien qui distingue TX_MIN (min du max), TG_MIN (min de la moyenne) et TN_MIN (min du min), alors que ce sont trois indicateurs différents ?
Ça peut sembler répétitif, mais je crois que c'est un endroit où on peut se le permettre. Mais en même temps, ce n'est pas critique non plus.

Au contraire, non? On aurait : « Minimum de la température journalière maximale », « Minimum de la température journalière moyenne » et « Minimum de la température journalière ».

@aulemahal Mais c'est justement ici ce qui est voué à être retiré, non?
"Minimum de la température journalière minimale" --> "Minimum de la température journalière"

Oui, mais le "minimal" ne serait retiré que pour tn_min puisque c'est le seul endroit où il est redondant? tx_min et tg_min ne sont pas touchés.

Ouais... J'ai peur que ça puisse quand même porter à confusion, mais OK.

En fait est-ce que :

Suggested change

"long_name": "Minimum de la température journalière",

"long_name": "Minimum de la température",

serait encore moins confus? Tsé, le "journalier" n'a plus rien à voir à ce stade.

Mauvaise idée à mon avis. Parce que ça pourrait être de la température horaire initialement et tu pourrais avoir des résultats différents.
Faut discuter de ça avec un plus gros échantillon d'utilisateurs...

RondeauG · 2021-11-18T14:16:14Z

-    "title": "Minimum de la température minimale",
-    "comment": "",
-    "abstract": "Minimum de la température journalière minimale."
+    "title": "Température journalière minimale",


Same here. "Minimum de la température journalière minimale" describes TN_min better, I think.

RondeauG · 2021-11-18T14:17:55Z

-    "comment": "",
-    "abstract": "Maximum de la température journalière maximale."
+    "title": "Température journalière maximale",
+    "abstract": "Température journalière maximale."


Same as above

Zeitsperre · 2021-11-18T15:35:58Z

@Ouranosinc/xclim-core I wanted to make this clear that we can take some time with this PR (not too much; I would like to get this into v0.32) and also clarify that these changes arose from another project that currently patches most of these problems, so there's no rush related to a project.

The changes here don't have to be extensive; As this is a first pass at fixing many of these inconsistencies, this PR is to get the ball rolling. Please feel free to commit directly to the branch if there are any clear issues. Your comments are appreciated!

EmilieBresson · 2021-11-18T15:46:24Z

Ça serait bien de faire une rencontre (en janvier, pas possible avant) avec vous plus Dominique Paquin pour discuter des points qui ne tiennent pas juste de la grammaire (en dessous, au-dessous) ou les fautes de frappes (dessus/dessous). Les points du genre de la Moyenne de la température moyenne.
Bon pour vous ?

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aulemahal

Quelques suggestions et quelques commentaires.

aulemahal · 2021-11-18T19:10:20Z

+    "long_name": "Cycles de gel-dégel",
+    "description": "Nombre {freq:m} de jours avec un gel-dégel quotidien : Tmax > {thresh_tasmax} et Tmin <= {thresh_tasmin}.",


Je trouve que le "quotidien" est superflu si on parle déjà de "jours". Mais je trouve qu'il manque justement cette information dans le long_name...
Est-ce que "Cycles de gel-dégel diurne" serait approprié?

aulemahal · 2021-11-18T19:19:10Z

La plateforme de l'ONU est pratique pour ce genre de traductions : https://unterm.un.org/unterm/portal/welcome

Co-authored-by: Pascal Bourgault <bourgault.pascal@ouranos.ca>

RondeauG

All previous comments have been resolved.

Zeitsperre · 2021-11-25T18:21:32Z

Thanks, @RondeauG! I'll open another issue to deal with the trickier comments before merging this.

Zeitsperre · 2021-11-25T22:12:37Z

This PR is complete. It just requires #935 to go in before merging. Thanks for all the great comments!

Zeitsperre added 2 commits November 17, 2021 16:29

Rephrasing of many awkward or erroneous French translations

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remove empty comments

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Zeitsperre added the invalid This doesn't seem right label Nov 17, 2021

Zeitsperre added this to the v0.32 milestone Nov 17, 2021

Zeitsperre requested a review from a team November 17, 2021 21:50

Zeitsperre self-assigned this Nov 17, 2021

Zeitsperre changed the title ~~Fench indicator metadata cleanup~~ French indicator metadata cleanup Nov 17, 2021

Zeitsperre added 2 commits November 17, 2021 17:03

adjust translation test expectations

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Merge branch 'master' into corrections_francaises

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Merge branch 'master' into corrections_francaises

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update HISTORY.rst

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More in-depth French Indicators metadata adjustments #936

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	"long_name": "Minimum de la température journalière",
	"long_name": "Minimum de la température",

		"long_name": "Cycles de gel-dégel",
		"description": "Nombre {freq:m} de jours avec un gel-dégel quotidien : Tmax > {thresh_tasmax} et Tmin <= {thresh_tasmin}.",

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