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Ports the SM100 indexer backward gradient optimizations through indexer commit 9aaa839 onto the current cuDNN Frontend develop branch (4cdaef1 base optimization plus the short-TopK specialization follow-up).

  • optimize sparse score-grad with warp reductions and preserve the predict-score input
  • add persistent CTA paths for TopK=128/256/384/512, SM100 Gather4 K loads, staged bulk FP32 dK reduction, and faster dS/dQ epilogues
  • pack short-TopK score-grad rows, fuse FP32 dK zeroing into score-grad, and overlap score-grad with kernel 2 via PDL
  • optimize the dense dS/dQ STMatrix epilogues and dW subgroup reductions
  • add explicit tcgen05 lifetime fences and per-writer SMEM handoff barriers while preserving FE CUDA Graph, runtime grad_loss, q-causal-offset, and stream behavior
  • reject positive out-of-range local Top-K IDs as padding and add focused regression coverage
  • update the sparse backward mutability contract in API docs

Validation

Run on NVIDIA B200 (SM100), CUDA 13.2, PyTorch 2.11 nightly, and nvidia-cutlass-dsl 4.6.1:

  • sparse TopK=512 local-ID persistent correctness against the PyTorch reference
  • sparse TopK=512 global-ID cross-row persistent/Gather4 correctness against the PyTorch reference
  • sparse TopK=128 non-persistent correctness against the PyTorch reference
  • positive-OOB local-ID pytest: 1 passed
  • dense BSHD optimized correctness with strict cosine/RMS-relative checks
  • dense CUDA Graph capture/replay with runtime grad_loss values 0.5 and 1.5
  • black --check --fast -l 160 on changed Python files
  • python -m py_compile on changed Python files
  • git diff --check

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Performance

Kernel 2 only, CUDA events, 10 warmups + 60 measured iterations on B200; BF16, B=1, Sq=8192, Sk=2048, H=64, D=128, block_I=128:

Path develop this PR change
Sparse, TopK=512, global IDs 0.956 ms 0.472 ms -50.6%
Dense, ratio=4 1.215 ms 0.996 ms -18.1%

Direct A/B against merged #640

Compared the latest PR worktree (the 632003496 port plus the local port of indexer 9aaa839) against #640's merged sm100_v2 implementation at a6c892462. Both implementations used the same tensors and launch stream.

B200 (SM100), driver 610.57.04, CUDA 13.2, PyTorch 2.11 nightly, nvidia-cutlass-dsl 4.6.1; BF16, B=1, Sq=8192, Sk=4096, H=64, D=128, block_I=128, sm_scale=1.0, global per-row-unique valid Top-K IDs. CUDA-event medians from 20 warmups followed by 6 rounds x 10 calls, alternating implementation order. Kernel-2 timing uses a pre-zeroed FP32 dK accumulator; full-pipeline timing includes score-grad, dK zeroing, kernel 2, and the BF16 dK cast (output allocation excluded).

TopK #640 kernel 2 this PR kernel 2 speedup #640 full pipeline this PR full pipeline speedup
128 0.318 ms 0.140 ms 2.28x 0.337 ms 0.144 ms 2.33x
256 0.498 ms 0.249 ms 2.00x 0.519 ms 0.257 ms 2.02x
384 0.903 ms 0.371 ms 2.43x 0.923 ms 0.386 ms 2.39x
512 1.195 ms 0.482 ms 2.48x 1.220 ms 0.497 ms 2.46x
640 1.357 ms 0.794 ms 1.71x 1.383 ms 0.812 ms 1.70x
1024 2.190 ms 1.147 ms 1.91x 2.237 ms 1.175 ms 1.90x
1536 3.051 ms 1.618 ms 1.89x 3.128 ms 1.661 ms 1.88x
2048 4.189 ms 2.098 ms 2.00x 4.294 ms 2.153 ms 1.99x

Across the eight Top-K points, this PR is 1.71-2.48x faster for kernel 2 and 1.70-2.46x faster for the full GPU pipeline; the geometric mean is 2.07x for both. All measured output tensors were finite. Because this environment differs from #640's original driver/toolchain setup, the comparison uses only paired same-run ratios, not absolute timings copied from either PR.

Acknowledgments

The kernel optimizations presented in this pull request build upon prior work by the AVO team. We gratefully acknowledge Terry Chen and Fengzhe Zhou, as well as the broader AVO team, for their foundational implementation and technical contributions, which served as an important basis for this work.

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  • New Features

    • Added persistent-dispatch support for selected SM100 sparse-attention backward workloads.
    • Added optimized processing for packed score-gradient rows and short top-k configurations.
    • Added full-pipeline execution with improved gradient readback and storage.
    • Added a fallback path for broader workload shapes.
  • Bug Fixes

    • Improved synchronization and gradient correctness.
    • Rejected device mismatches before execution.
    • Preserved index_score; only attn_score is overwritten.
  • Documentation

    • Clarified backend behavior, workspace requirements, validation, and score handling.

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The update clarifies that kernel 1 overwrites attn_score and preserves index_score. It adds SM100 synchronization fences, specialized tensor-memory paths, updated reductions, and regression tests for persistent execution and gradient correctness.

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SM100 indexer backward update

Layer / File(s) Summary
Score-buffer contract and validation
docs/fe-oss-apis/dsa.md, python/cudnn/deepseek_sparse_attention/indexer_backward/api.py, python/cudnn/deepseek_sparse_attention/indexer_backward/indexer_backward_v2_sm100.py, test/python/fe_api/dsa/test_DSA_indexer_backward.py
The contract identifies attn_score as writable scratch storage and index_score as preserved read-only input. Validation rejects device mismatches before overwriting attn_score.
Barrier and tcgen05 synchronization
python/cudnn/deepseek_sparse_attention/indexer_backward/dense_indexer_backward_sm100.py
The kernel uses nine barriers, tcgen05 fences, lane-wide producer signaling, and completion events for dQ, dS, GEMM, reducer, and TMEM operations.
Specialized STMatrix paths and reductions
python/cudnn/deepseek_sparse_attention/indexer_backward/dense_indexer_backward_sm100.py
Production tile shapes use specialized STMatrix paths for dS, S, and dQ. The specialized dW path uses four-lane subgroup reductions. General shapes retain fallback paths.
SM100 regression coverage
test/python/fe_api/dsa/test_DSA_indexer_backward.py
Tests cover persistent dispatch thresholds, packed score gradients, PDL results, FP32 d_index_k zeroing, and invalid-ID masking for local and global indices.

Estimated code review effort: 4 (Complex) | ~60 minutes

Merge Risk: 🟡 Moderate · up to 75c51

The PR adds optimized SM100 backward kernels and new regression coverage, but the new SM100 test still lacks the repository-required backend support and version gating, so the change should not merge until that test integration issue is fixed or explicitly accepted.

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  participant Caller
  participant indexer_backward_wrapper
  participant SM100_backward_kernel
  participant TMEM
  participant RegressionTests
  Caller->>indexer_backward_wrapper: provide attn_score and index_score
  indexer_backward_wrapper->>indexer_backward_wrapper: validate devices before mutation
  indexer_backward_wrapper->>SM100_backward_kernel: launch validated backward execution
  SM100_backward_kernel->>TMEM: synchronize and read back dQ, dW, and dK
  SM100_backward_kernel-->>indexer_backward_wrapper: write attn_score and preserve index_score
  RegressionTests->>SM100_backward_kernel: verify persistent and PDL paths
  RegressionTests->>RegressionTests: compare gradients with references
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In `@test/python/fe_api/dsa/test_DSA_indexer_backward.py`:
- Around line 165-173: Update
test_DSA_indexer_backward_sm100_local_oob_id_is_padding to call _require_sm100()
before importing or creating the direct kernel, and apply the existing
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def test_DSA_indexer_backward_sm100_local_oob_id_is_padding():
"""A positive out-of-range local id must not alias the next batch."""
if torch.cuda.get_device_capability()[0] < 10:
pytest.skip("SM100+ required")

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from cudnn.deepseek_sparse_attention.indexer_backward.indexer_backward_sm100 import indexer_backward_sm100
except ImportError:
pytest.skip("Environment not supported: cudnn[cutedsl] not installed")

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Gate the direct CuTe DSL test before compilation.

test_DSA_indexer_backward_sm100_local_oob_id_is_padding calls indexer_backward_sm100() and kernel.gemm_only() directly, so it bypasses IndexerBackward.check_support(). Its capability check does not verify CUDA availability or the installed nvidia-cutlass-dsl version. An unsupported environment can therefore raise during factory creation or launch instead of skipping. Reuse _require_sm100() and add the applicable CuTe DSL support/version gate. cudnn.backend_version() is not a proxy for this direct CuTe DSL dependency.

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In `@test/python/fe_api/dsa/test_DSA_indexer_backward.py` around lines 165 - 173,
Update test_DSA_indexer_backward_sm100_local_oob_id_is_padding to call
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Can you help fix the merge conflict.

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Port indexer commit 9aaa839:\n\n- add persistent TopK 128/256/384 specializations\n- pack score-grad rows and fuse dK zeroing\n- overlap score-grad and GEMM through programmatic dependent launch
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In `@python/cudnn/deepseek_sparse_attention/indexer_backward/api.py`:
- Around line 786-790: Preserve the documented read-only contract by creating a
stream-local scratch copy of index_score before obj.execute reaches the
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Re-measurement from the #640 authors (B200, full top-k sweep)

The persistent-CTA + Gather4 + staged-dK work here is a real improvement — it also passes our adversarial correctness battery (-1 padding / positive-OOB / short rows all strictly padding-equivalent). We re-ran the full A/B because the #640 baseline column didn't match what we measured when authoring #640. Summary: the sm100_v2 baseline reproduces at topk=128/256 but is high by ~1.5× at every topk ≥ 384, and that column drives the headline ratio. Your own kernel's number reproduces almost exactly at the shared topk=512 point (claimed 482 µs → we measure 484 µs); at topk=128/256 your kernel is even faster on your rig than on ours (140 vs 169 µs, 249 vs 274 µs), so nothing below calls the new kernel's own numbers into question — our concern is only the baseline column.

Environment: B200 (driver 590.48.01), CUDA 13.3, PyTorch 2.13.0a0+8145d630e8 (NGC 26.06), nvidia-cutlass-dsl 4.6.1 and 4.8.0.dev0; both implementations source-built into one process, same tensors, same stream, three-arm rotation, CUDA-event medians (300 reps, same-session, SM clock verified stable), cross-checked with nsys pure-kernel medians.

Kernel-2, Sq=8192 / SK=4096 / H=64 / D=128, uniform lengths, global per-row-unique IDs, sm_scale=1.0

topk #640 v2 (PR body) #640 v2 (our re-run, 4.6.1) this PR (4.6.1) re-measured speedup (4.6.1) re-measured speedup (4.8.0.dev0)
128 318 µs 318 µs (match) 169 µs 1.88× 1.76×
256 498 µs 506 µs (match) 274 µs 1.85× 1.72×
384 903 µs 611 µs (1.48× lower) 388 µs 1.57× 1.44×
512 1195 µs 760 µs (1.57× lower) 484 µs 1.57× 1.35×
640 1357 µs 900 µs (1.51× lower) 811 µs 1.11× 1.01×
1024 2190 µs 1374 µs (1.59× lower) 1132 µs 1.21× 1.08×
1536 3051 µs 2033 µs (1.50× lower) 1566 µs 1.30× 1.15×
2048 4189 µs 2748 µs (1.52× lower) 2025 µs 1.36× 1.17×

Geomean over the eight points: 1.46× on 4.6.1, 1.31× on 4.8.0.dev0 (vs 2.07× in the PR body).

We also tried to reconstruct the discrepancy on our side, without success: CUDA-graph capture/replay (both arms capture and replay cleanly and get faster — v2-direct sheds about 60 µs of launch overhead here, so your FE CUDA Graph preservation claim checks out in our hands), pipeline-stage clamps (clamping the kv pipe to 2 stages deadlocks v2 at topk=512 rather than slowing it), full-wrapper timing (+~88µs roughly constant, inconsistent with your own full-pipeline column), cold-compile effects (pollute the mean, not the median), and block_I mismatches (rejected loudly by v2's validation). We ruled out ID distribution (with-replacement random / per-row-unique / sorted-unique all within 0.3% at topk=512, <2% across the sweep), DSL version, and output dtype — none moves v2 appreciably. Given the divergence starts exactly at v2's 3-tiles/row gear change (topk=384) while topk=128 matches us to the microsecond and topk=256 within 2%, one thing worth double-checking on your side is that the baseline binary was built from the merged #640 sm100_v2 on develop — a pre-merge variant with different pipe arithmetic could be one possible explanation for this signature, though we could not verify that from here.

Three more performance-relevant observations:

  1. topk=640 is a performance-dip point for the new kernel (advantage falls to 1.01–1.11× before recovering toward topk=2048; the k-sweep is non-monotonic). Worth a look.
  2. Part of the kernel-2 speedup comes from reduced arithmetic, not scheduling alone: the new kernel feeds the dK GEMM a single-bf16 dS, where v2 uses a two-term compensated bf16 split (doubling that GEMM) to buy dK accuracy (2.6e-5–1.3e-4 relative error vs fp64 reference, against the bf16 floor of 1.66e-3 here). Worth stating in the PR body so the comparison is apples-to-apples for consumers choosing between the paths.
  3. Toolchain sensitivity: on nvidia-cutlass-dsl 4.8.0.dev0 the new kernel regresses 5–18% vs 4.6.1 across the sweep (worst at topk=512: 484 → 571 µs), while the old default path gets faster (e.g. 992 → 920 µs at topk=512) and v2 stays within about ±2% except topk=256 (+5%). Worth a note for anyone moving to newer cutlass-dsl builds.

Under ragged per-row lengths (monotone ramp + padding) the speedup holds essentially undiminished at topk=512 (1.34×) and narrows to ~1.06–1.10× at topk=1024/2048 on 4.8.0.dev0.

The exact benchmark harness is in the next comment so you can rerun everything.

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Benchmark harness for the numbers in the previous comment.

Two-tree setup. To A/B two builds of the same package in one process, we install the PR build under a renamed package that shares the base build's pybind extension (importing two copies of the compiled module collides on pybind type registration; #730 touches no C++, so the base .so serves both trees exactly):

git clone https://github.com/NVIDIA/cudnn-frontend.git fe && cd fe
# base tree: develop at the commit this PR is based on (contains merged #640 v2)
git worktree add ../fe-develop a146b44f963947d07da1617020848743524157ad
# PR tree: head of this PR at the time we benchmarked
git fetch origin pull/730/head && git worktree add ../fe-pr730 ec78f32f8478469069b97ddae359a199cad89fc7
cd ..

pip install --no-deps -t site_base fe-develop   # provides `cudnn` (incl. the compiled pybind module)
pip install --no-deps -t site_pr   fe-pr730
mkdir -p site_pr_renamed && cp -r site_pr/cudnn site_pr_renamed/cudnn_pr730m
grep -rl --include='*.py' cudnn site_pr_renamed/cudnn_pr730m | xargs sed -i 's/\bcudnn\b/cudnn_pr730m/g'
rm -f site_pr_renamed/cudnn_pr730m/_compiled_module*.so
sed -i 's|import_module("cudnn_pr730m._compiled_module")|import_module("cudnn._compiled_module")|' site_pr_renamed/cudnn_pr730m/__init__.py

The script below also injects sys.modules["cudnn_pr730m._compiled_module"] = sys.modules["cudnn._compiled_module"] before importing the renamed package, which covers the submodules that import the compiled module by absolute name.

#!/usr/bin/env python3
"""A/B benchmark: PR #730 indexer-backward kernel 2 vs merged #640 sm100_v2
(vs the pre-#640 default path as a third reference arm).

What it measures
  Kernel-2-only (gemm_only entry) latency for the DeepSeek sparse-attention
  indexer backward at B=1, Sq=8192, Sk=4096, H=64, D=128, swept over top-k.
  Fixture: bf16 q/k/w, fp32 grad signal, global per-row-unique valid int32
  ids, uniform lengths, sm_scale=1.0, fp32 dK buffer on all arms (v2 dW fp32,
  the two default-path arms dW bf16, their contract). The PR/old-default arms
  include the caller-side dk.zero_() their gemm_only contract requires; v2
  zeroes dK internally — both inside the timed region.
  Timing: one CUDA-event pair per call, sync per rep, arm order rotated every
  rep (ABC/BCA/CAB), 300 reps, medians reported. SM clock is sampled before
  and after every block so thermally drifting runs can be rejected.
  CHECK=1 adds value checks against an fp64 chunked reference (relative
  error per gradient), bitwise determinism checks, and the padding
  equivalence check (-1 ids vs positive out-of-range ids, nonzero grad on
  padded slots must be ignored).

v2 kernel-2-only path
  Upstream sm100_v2 exposes no gemm_only entry, so this harness no-ops the
  shared kernel-1 launcher (`_score_grad_inplace`) inside the v2 module and
  passes the precomputed grad signal in the attn_score slot — exactly what
  kernel 1 would have left there; with sm_scale=1.0 the runtime fold is a
  no-op. The fp64 reference check validates this path end to end.

Requirements: 1x SM100 GPU (B200 class), CUDA PyTorch, nvidia-cutlass-dsl,
the two trees on PYTHONPATH as above. Full sweep ~20-40 min (mostly DSL plan
compilation), <8 GB device memory.

Usage
  PYTHONPATH=site_base:site_pr_renamed CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=0 BENCH_GPU_INDEX=0 \
      python3 bench_indexer_bwd_ab.py
  Env knobs: KLIST (default 128,256,384,512,640,1024,1536,2048), REPS (300),
  MODE=uniform|full (full adds ragged-length runs at RAGGED_KLIST=512,1024,2048),
  CHECK=1 (correctness at CHECK_K, default 512; set CHECK_K=1024 / 2048 to
  reproduce the other precision points), OUT (JSONL path).
"""
import os, sys, json, statistics, subprocess
import torch

OUT = os.environ.get("OUT", "./indexer_bwd_ab.jsonl")
MODE = os.environ.get("MODE", "full")            # uniform | full
REPS = int(os.environ.get("REPS", "300"))
CHECK = os.environ.get("CHECK", "1") == "1"
CHECK_K = int(os.environ.get("CHECK_K", "512"))
KLIST = [int(x) for x in os.environ.get("KLIST", "128,256,384,512,640,1024,1536,2048").split(",")]
RAGGED_KLIST = [int(x) for x in os.environ.get("RAGGED_KLIST", "512,1024,2048").split(",")]
GPU = os.environ.get("BENCH_GPU_INDEX", "0")

def emit(o):
    with open(OUT, "a") as f: f.write(json.dumps(o) + "\n")
    print(json.dumps(o), flush=True)

def sm_clock():
    r = subprocess.run(["nvidia-smi", "-i", GPU, "--query-gpu=clocks.sm", "--format=csv,noheader"],
                       capture_output=True, text=True)
    return r.stdout.strip()

import cudnn
sys.modules["cudnn_pr730m._compiled_module"] = sys.modules["cudnn._compiled_module"]
import cudnn_pr730m
import cutlass
import cudnn.deepseek_sparse_attention.indexer_backward.indexer_backward_v2_sm100 as v2mod
from cudnn.deepseek_sparse_attention.indexer_backward.indexer_backward_v2_sm100 import indexer_backward_v2_sm100 as v2_factory
from cudnn.deepseek_sparse_attention.indexer_backward.indexer_backward_sm100 import indexer_backward_sm100 as v1old_factory
from cudnn_pr730m.deepseek_sparse_attention.indexer_backward.indexer_backward_sm100 import indexer_backward_sm100 as pr_factory

# v2 kernel-2-only: disable the shared kernel-1 launcher (see module docstring).
v2mod._score_grad_inplace = lambda *a, **kw: None

S, SK, H, D = 8192, 4096, 64, 128
dev = "cuda"
emit({"meta": "start", "cutlass": cutlass.__version__, "torch": torch.__version__,
      "reps": REPS, "mode": MODE, "klist": KLIST, "clock": sm_clock()})

torch.manual_seed(0)
q = torch.randn(S, H, D, device=dev, dtype=torch.bfloat16)
k = torch.randn(SK, D, device=dev, dtype=torch.bfloat16)
w = torch.randn(S, H, device=dev, dtype=torch.bfloat16)
# Ragged mode: row i sees min(ceil((i+1)/2), SK) keys (monotone causal ramp).
visible = (torch.arange(S, device=dev) // 2 + 1).clamp(max=SK)

def make_ids(topk, prod):
    """Global per-row-unique valid ids; prod=True adds the tlen ramp with -1
    padding and zeroed grad on padded slots."""
    torch.manual_seed(7 + topk + int(prod))
    r = torch.rand(S, SK, device=dev)
    if prod:
        pen = (torch.arange(SK, device=dev)[None, :] >= visible[:, None]).float() * 10.0
        order = (r + pen).argsort(dim=-1)[:, :topk]
        tlen = visible.clamp(max=topk)
        m = torch.arange(topk, device=dev)[None, :] < tlen[:, None]
        ids = torch.where(m, order.to(torch.int32), torch.full_like(order, -1, dtype=torch.int32).view(S, topk))
    else:
        ids = r.argsort(dim=-1)[:, :topk].to(torch.int32)
    g = (torch.randn(S, topk, device=dev) * 0.1).float()
    g = torch.where(ids >= 0, g, torch.zeros_like(g))
    return ids.contiguous(), g.contiguous()

class GemmOnlyArm:
    """PR #730 / old-default arm via the public _run.gemm_only escape hatch."""
    def __init__(self, factory, topk):
        self.topk = topk
        self.fn = factory(batch=1, seqlen=S, seqlen_k=SK, heads=H, dim=D, topk=topk,
                          sm_scale=1.0, block_I=128, topk_indices_global=True).gemm_only
        self.dq = torch.empty(S, H, D, dtype=torch.bfloat16, device=dev)
        self.dw = torch.empty(S, H, dtype=torch.bfloat16, device=dev)
        self.dk = torch.zeros(SK, D, dtype=torch.float32, device=dev)
    def __call__(self, ids, g):
        self.dk.zero_()          # gemm_only contract: caller zeroes dK
        t = self.topk
        self.fn(q.view(1, S, H, D), w.view(1, S, H), k.view(1, SK, D),
                self.dq.view(1, S, H, D), self.dw.view(1, S, H),
                self.dk.view(1, SK, D), g.view(1, S, t), ids.view(1, S, t))
    def outs(self):
        return {"dq": self.dq.clone(), "dw": self.dw.clone(), "dk": self.dk.clone()}

class V2Arm:
    """sm100_v2 kernel-2-only via _run with kernel 1 no-op'd (see docstring)."""
    def __init__(self, topk):
        self.topk = topk
        self.fn = v2_factory(batch=1, seqlen=S, seqlen_k=SK, heads=H, dim=D, topk=topk,
                             sm_scale=1.0, block_I=128, topk_indices_global=True,
                             dw_out_dtype=torch.float32)
        self.dq = torch.empty(S, H, D, dtype=torch.bfloat16, device=dev)
        self.dw = torch.empty(S, H, dtype=torch.float32, device=dev)
        self.dk = torch.zeros(SK, D, dtype=torch.float32, device=dev)   # zeroed inside _run (fp32 path)
        self.index_score = torch.empty(S, topk, dtype=torch.float32, device=dev)  # dummy: kernel 1 disabled
    def __call__(self, ids, g):
        t = self.topk
        self.fn(q.view(1, S, H, D), w.view(1, S, H), k.view(1, SK, D),
                self.dq.view(1, S, H, D), self.dw.view(1, S, H), self.dk.view(1, SK, D),
                g.view(1, S, t),                  # attn_score slot <- precomputed grad signal
                self.index_score.view(1, S, t),   # index_score: unused (kernel 1 disabled)
                ids.view(1, S, t),
                g.view(1, S, t),                  # grad_loss: unused (kernel 1 disabled)
                1.0)
    def outs(self):
        return {"dq": self.dq.clone(), "dw": self.dw.clone(), "dk": self.dk.clone()}

ARMS = ("v2", "pr", "v1old")
def build(topk):
    return {"v2": V2Arm(topk),
            "pr": GemmOnlyArm(pr_factory, topk),
            "v1old": GemmOnlyArm(v1old_factory, topk)}

def bench(arms, ids, g, tag, names=ARMS):
    for nm in names:
        for _ in range(15): arms[nm](ids, g)
    torch.cuda.synchronize()
    c0 = sm_clock()
    tm = {nm: [] for nm in names}
    for rep in range(REPS):
        seq = [names[(i + rep) % len(names)] for i in range(len(names))]
        for nm in seq:
            e0 = torch.cuda.Event(True); e1 = torch.cuda.Event(True)
            e0.record(); arms[nm](ids, g); e1.record()
            torch.cuda.synchronize()
            tm[nm].append(e0.elapsed_time(e1))
    res = {"pattern": tag, "clock_pre": c0, "clock_post": sm_clock()}
    for nm in names:
        v = sorted(tm[nm])
        res[nm] = {"median_us": round(statistics.median(v) * 1000, 1),
                   "min_us": round(v[0] * 1000, 1), "p90_us": round(v[int(0.9 * len(v))] * 1000, 1)}
    if "v2" in names and "pr" in names:
        res["speedup_v2_over_pr"] = round(res["v2"]["median_us"] / res["pr"]["median_us"], 3)
    emit(res)

def ref_grads(ids, g):
    """fp64 chunked reference of the gemm_only semantics (sm_scale=1)."""
    topk = ids.shape[1]
    dq = torch.zeros(S, H, D, dtype=torch.float64, device=dev)
    dw = torch.zeros(S, H, dtype=torch.float64, device=dev)
    dk = torch.zeros(SK, D, dtype=torch.float64, device=dev)
    q64, k64, w64, g64 = q.double(), k.double(), w.double(), g.double()
    CH = 128
    for i0 in range(0, S, CH):
        i1 = i0 + CH
        idc = ids[i0:i1].long(); valid = idc >= 0
        kg = k64[idc.clamp(min=0)]
        s = torch.einsum("chd,ctd->cht", q64[i0:i1], kg)
        pos = (s > 0).double()
        gv = g64[i0:i1] * valid.double()
        dw[i0:i1] = torch.einsum("cht,ct->ch", torch.relu(s), gv)
        dq[i0:i1] = torch.einsum("ct,ch,cht,ctd->chd", gv, w64[i0:i1], pos, kg)
        contrib = torch.einsum("ct,ch,cht,chd->ctd", gv, w64[i0:i1], pos, q64[i0:i1])
        dk.index_add_(0, idc.clamp(min=0)[valid].flatten(), contrib[valid].reshape(-1, D))
    return dq, dw, dk

def relerr(a, b):
    a = a.double(); den = b.norm().item()
    return ((a - b).norm().item() / den) if den else 0.0

def correctness(arms, topk):
    """Value / determinism / padding-equivalence asserts on the ragged fixture."""
    ids_p, g_p = make_ids(topk, True)
    refs = ref_grads(ids_p, g_p)
    base = {}
    for nm in ("v2", "pr"):
        a = arms[nm]
        a.dk.zero_(); a(ids_p, g_p); torch.cuda.synchronize(); o1 = a.outs()
        a.dk.zero_(); a(ids_p, g_p); torch.cuda.synchronize(); o2 = a.outs()
        base[nm] = o1
        rec = {"correctness": nm, "topk": topk,
               "rel_dq": relerr(o1["dq"], refs[0]), "rel_dw": relerr(o1["dw"], refs[1]),
               "rel_dk": relerr(o1["dk"], refs[2]),
               "det_dq_bitwise": torch.equal(o1["dq"], o2["dq"]),
               "det_dw_bitwise": torch.equal(o1["dw"], o2["dw"]),
               "det_dk_rel": relerr(o1["dk"].double(), o2["dk"].double()),
               "finite": all(torch.isfinite(t).all().item() for t in o1.values())}
        emit(rec)
        assert rec["finite"], f"{nm}: non-finite gradients"
        assert rec["rel_dq"] < 5e-3, f"{nm}: dq off ({rec['rel_dq']})"
        assert rec["rel_dw"] < (1e-5 if nm == "v2" else 5e-3), f"{nm}: dw off ({rec['rel_dw']})"
        assert rec["rel_dk"] < (1e-3 if nm == "v2" else 5e-3), f"{nm}: dk off ({rec['rel_dk']})"
        assert rec["det_dq_bitwise"] and rec["det_dw_bitwise"], f"{nm}: dq/dw not run-to-run bitwise"
        assert rec["det_dk_rel"] < 1e-3, f"{nm}: dk run-to-run jitter beyond atomic band"
    # -1 padding vs positive-OOB padding must be equivalent, with nonzero grad
    # on the invalid slots (must be ignored by the kernel).
    ids_oob = ids_p.clone(); pad = ids_oob == -1
    ids_oob[pad] = SK + (torch.arange(ids_oob.numel(), device=dev).view_as(ids_oob)[pad] % 9999).to(torch.int32)
    g_oob = g_p.clone(); g_oob[pad] = 0.123
    for nm in ("v2", "pr"):
        a = arms[nm]
        a.dk.zero_(); a(ids_oob, g_oob); torch.cuda.synchronize(); o = a.outs()
        rec = {"oob_padding_equiv": nm, "topk": topk,
               "dq_equal_bitwise": torch.equal(o["dq"], base[nm]["dq"]),
               "dw_equal_bitwise": torch.equal(o["dw"], base[nm]["dw"]),
               "dk_rel_vs_pad": relerr(o["dk"].double(), base[nm]["dk"].double())}
        emit(rec)
        assert rec["dq_equal_bitwise"] and rec["dw_equal_bitwise"], f"{nm}: OOB ids not padding-equivalent"
        assert rec["dk_rel_vs_pad"] < 1e-3, f"{nm}: OOB dk not padding-equivalent"

for topk in KLIST:
    arms = build(topk)
    ids, g = make_ids(topk, False)
    bench(arms, ids, g, f"uniform{topk}")
    if MODE == "full" and topk in RAGGED_KLIST:
        ids_p, g_p = make_ids(topk, True)
        bench(arms, ids_p, g_p, f"ragged{topk}", names=("v2", "pr"))
    if CHECK and topk == CHECK_K:
        correctness(arms, topk)
    del arms
    torch.cuda.empty_cache()
emit({"meta": "done", "clock": sm_clock()})

Notes:

  • uniform<k> rows reproduce the headline table (v2/pr medians and their ratio; v1old is the pre-dsa(indexer_backward): opt-in SM100 sparse backward v2 — 1.16-1.92x faster (fp32-accurate d_index_k at no extra cost) #640 default path for context). ragged<k> rows are the ragged variant from the last paragraph of the previous comment: per-row lengths follow the monotone ramp above, shorter rows padded with -1 and zeroed grad.
  • Our 4.6.1 vs 4.8.0.dev0 columns are two runs of this same script with the corresponding nvidia-cutlass-dsl on the path.
  • The precision numbers quoted for topk=1024/2048 come from CHECK_K=1024 and CHECK_K=2048 runs of the same script (the correctness records in the JSONL).
  • The nsys cross-check is the same script at REPS=60 CHECK=0 under nsys profile, taking per-kernel medians from the trace.

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