OSS maintenance burnout and the Bootstrap 4 beta

[nimmolo]

This beta is taking forever. How can i help?

I read @mdo 's twitter feed and found this gem of a blog post - it was the answer to exactly what i was wondering, how the hell do you guys handle all this.

If the beta's ever going to get out, there needs to be some serious triage and focus and limiting of scope.

Maybe there also needs to be a notice on this (or every!!!) github page about how low-level devs like me can be helpful or get out of the way. People need to be warned of the seriousness of developer burnout, and i think many of us who are a drag would like to be more helpful than we are.

[madmax]

@nimmolo It's not even beta yet :)

[bardiharborow]

That blog post hits too close to home, and I'm not even close to the person doing the most work on the project at the moment. Also, I broke the build system last week and annoyed everyone on the project – well maybe it wasn't that bad, but it's like that in my head – so I'm in the awkward position of feeling like I need to do more work to make up for it, but not wanting to touch anything lest it all comes crashing down...

The funny thing, is we already have such a notice, it's just no-one reads it. Bug reporters are apparently illiterate impatient.

I'm available on Slack and IRC to mentor anyone who's actually serious about getting involved. The most helpful thing you could probably do is work through issues that haven't received much love and actually write a reduced testcase.

[Johann-S]

I totally agreed with @bardiharborow, write a reduce test case can help us a lot + they are a bunch of issues which are waiting for a PR you can find this issues on this link : https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3Av4.0.0-beta

About your build system @bardiharborow you made awesome work and I'm sure all the active members are proud of you and thank you 👍you rewrite the entire build system so it's normal they are some issues don't worry ♥️

[oktalk]

Is there a reason that we haven't cut a new release yet? Seems like a lot of new issues stem from outdated code. Why couldn't we cut a new release every few weeks?

Also, thank you @Johann-S for adding labels to everything. In addition to labels, I would benefit from having the Kanban project board updated.

[Johann-S]

We want to add every breaking changes to this beta release that's why.
We want to release this beta asap but they are some issues to fix and PRs to review before the release

[minexew]

Perhaps releasing something like alpha-6.5 would help?

[SergeC]

Will Bootstrap support webpack natively without extra loaders?

[Johann-S]

@SergeC see this PR to know how to use BS4 with webpack : #22423

[Johann-S]

I'll close this PR.

To sum up, if you want to help us, you're welcome this is what you can do :

• Read CONTRIBUTING.md : https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/blob/v4-dev/CONTRIBUTING.md
• See what issues or PRs needs loves (by a review or a PR) : https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3Av4.0.0-beta
• Write a reduce test case for issues

I'm connected to Slack 10 hours per days, so if someone need helps on how to contribute to Bootstrap do not hesitate 👍