diff --git a/.changes/fix-linux-multiwebview.md b/.changes/fix-linux-multiwebview.md
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..eabdd02dfc1
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.changes/fix-linux-multiwebview.md
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
+---
+"tauri-runtime-wry": patch:bug
+---
+
+Multiwebview mode no longer relies on wry's `WebViewBuilder::new_gtk` since `new_as_child` is more stable on initial size computation. This breaks window menus until `muda` offers support for the multiwebview GTK container.
diff --git a/Cargo.lock b/Cargo.lock
index 11a6d1f8a42..ed503dcf648 100644
--- a/Cargo.lock
+++ b/Cargo.lock
@@ -1765,7 +1765,7 @@ source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
 checksum = "0c2a198fb6b0eada2a8df47933734e6d35d350665a33a3593d7164fa52c75c19"
 dependencies = [
  "cfg-if",
- "windows-targets 0.52.5",
+ "windows-targets 0.48.5",
 ]
 
 [[package]]
@@ -2233,9 +2233,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "paste"
-version = "1.0.14"
+version = "1.0.15"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "de3145af08024dea9fa9914f381a17b8fc6034dfb00f3a84013f7ff43f29ed4c"
+checksum = "57c0d7b74b563b49d38dae00a0c37d4d6de9b432382b2892f0574ddcae73fd0a"
 
 [[package]]
 name = "percent-encoding"
@@ -2907,9 +2907,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "rustls"
-version = "0.22.4"
+version = "0.22.3"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "bf4ef73721ac7bcd79b2b315da7779d8fc09718c6b3d2d1b2d94850eb8c18432"
+checksum = "99008d7ad0bbbea527ec27bddbc0e432c5b87d8175178cee68d2eec9c4a1813c"
 dependencies = [
  "log",
  "ring",
@@ -2989,9 +2989,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "schemars"
-version = "0.8.19"
+version = "0.8.20"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "fc6e7ed6919cb46507fb01ff1654309219f62b4d603822501b0b80d42f6f21ef"
+checksum = "b0218ceea14babe24a4a5836f86ade86c1effbc198164e619194cb5069187e29"
 dependencies = [
  "dyn-clone",
  "indexmap 1.9.3",
@@ -3003,9 +3003,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "schemars_derive"
-version = "0.8.19"
+version = "0.8.20"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "185f2b7aa7e02d418e453790dde16890256bbd2bcd04b7dc5348811052b53f49"
+checksum = "3ed5a1ccce8ff962e31a165d41f6e2a2dd1245099dc4d594f5574a86cd90f4d3"
 dependencies = [
  "proc-macro2",
  "quote",
@@ -3099,9 +3099,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "serde_derive_internals"
-version = "0.29.0"
+version = "0.29.1"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "330f01ce65a3a5fe59a60c82f3c9a024b573b8a6e875bd233fe5f934e71d54e3"
+checksum = "18d26a20a969b9e3fdf2fc2d9f21eda6c40e2de84c9408bb5d3b05d499aae711"
 dependencies = [
  "proc-macro2",
  "quote",
@@ -3335,9 +3335,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "specta"
-version = "2.0.0-rc.9"
+version = "2.0.0-rc.12"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "af8580b695a79b639706ecbc6b8f15a4570f38c4b208ea9fafa8362aace66d17"
+checksum = "3624a07cbde326fdf1ec37cbd39d06a224660fa0199b7db7316f2349583df981"
 dependencies = [
  "once_cell",
  "paste",
@@ -3348,9 +3348,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "specta-macros"
-version = "2.0.0-rc.9"
+version = "2.0.0-rc.10"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "68025f0a8950e26fae19b7ac334bd523179f4ef4e8c60e6875583a5bece6358e"
+checksum = "ef33e9678ae36993fcbfc46aa29568ef10d32fd54428808759c6a450998c43ec"
 dependencies = [
  "Inflector",
  "proc-macro2",
@@ -4077,9 +4077,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "tray-icon"
-version = "0.13.5"
+version = "0.13.0"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "39240037d755a1832e752d64f99078c3b0b21c09a71c12405070c75ef4e7cd3c"
+checksum = "8713f74e697917aa794800289e15bce534fc91450312ab2d3edf5b8907f7301a"
 dependencies = [
  "cocoa",
  "core-graphics",
@@ -4885,9 +4885,9 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "wry"
-version = "0.39.3"
+version = "0.39.5"
 source = "registry+https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io-index"
-checksum = "6e180ac2740d6cb4d5cec0abf63eacbea90f1b7e5e3803043b13c1c84c4b7884"
+checksum = "c7172fc76376d55d089c627a31a5b604b4ac372793fb5378d1c7ddf008703008"
 dependencies = [
  "base64 0.22.0",
  "block",
diff --git a/core/tauri-runtime-wry/src/lib.rs b/core/tauri-runtime-wry/src/lib.rs
index ed2c7f1aaf2..a84344b7bfa 100644
--- a/core/tauri-runtime-wry/src/lib.rs
+++ b/core/tauri-runtime-wry/src/lib.rs
@@ -3764,23 +3764,6 @@ fn create_webview<T: UserEvent>(
   } = pending;
 
   let builder = match kind {
-    #[cfg(not(any(
-      target_os = "windows",
-      target_os = "macos",
-      target_os = "ios",
-      target_os = "android"
-    )))]
-    WebviewKind::WindowChild => {
-      // only way to account for menu bar height, and also works for multiwebviews :)
-      let vbox = window.default_vbox().unwrap();
-      WebViewBuilder::new_gtk(vbox)
-    }
-    #[cfg(any(
-      target_os = "windows",
-      target_os = "macos",
-      target_os = "ios",
-      target_os = "android"
-    ))]
     WebviewKind::WindowChild => WebViewBuilder::new_as_child(&window),
     WebviewKind::WindowContent => {
       #[cfg(any(