Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

Finance: Alternatives for use outside PPPs #79

Open
jpmckinney opened this issue Jan 21, 2019 · 7 comments
Open

Finance: Alternatives for use outside PPPs #79

jpmckinney opened this issue Jan 21, 2019 · 7 comments
Labels
Community Relates to a regular extension
Milestone

Comments

@jpmckinney
Copy link
Member

The financeType.csv codelist should have options for public/government funding and for donor funding. If the donor is known to be a bilateral or multilateral organization, then those codes can be used, but if not, we need a more generic code.

@duncandewhurst: Can you provide feedback on these proposed changes?

@jpmckinney
Copy link
Member Author

@jpmckinney jpmckinney changed the title Finance: Generalizing for use outside PPPs Finance: Generalizing for use outside PPPs? Jan 22, 2019
@jpmckinney
Copy link
Member Author

jpmckinney commented Jan 22, 2019

There are several fields specific to PPP arrangements (e.g. stepInRights). We can consider instead a new extension, which might introduce a 'superclass' of the Finance object, with fewer properties. (Alternately, we can name the new definition Finance, and have the existing extension extend it….)

@duncandewhurst
Copy link

duncandewhurst commented Jan 22, 2019

A similar need came up in Belarus where the following additional fields were added:

Field Definition Notes
tender/funds Tender may be hold using budget or own funds
contracts/funds Contract may be signed with budget or own funds used Possible values: Budget -- state funds, Own -- non-state funds (money from individual business)

Helpdesk feedback was to provide this information in planning/budget/description

@duncandewhurst
Copy link

Noting that the finance extension was designed to represent individual financing agreements related to funding a PPP project (my understanding is that basically means funding arrangements for the company set up for the project), hence why few of the other fields in the finance extension are applicable to the use case of describing whether the funding for a procurement is from public, private or donor funds.

On that basis I think we should also consider whether a simple codelist field added to either planning/budget, tender and/or contract would be a better solution that adapting the finance extension.

@jpmckinney jpmckinney added the Community Relates to a regular extension label Jan 22, 2019
@duncandewhurst
Copy link

duncandewhurst commented Jan 23, 2019

Belarus actually has more detail than stated above on the finance source for contracts, with the following codelist for financeSource, separate to the funds codelist:

  • Foreign government loans
  • State extrabudgetary fund
  • State Trust Budget Fund
  • Innovation Fund
  • Other means
  • Source not defined
  • Bank loans
  • Loans exempted from the budget
  • Local budget
  • Republican budget
  • Own funds of budgetary organizations
  • Own funds of state organizations and households. societies
  • Union budget
  • Own funds
  • Republican budget
  • Local budget
  • State Trust Budget Fund
  • State extrabudgetary fund
  • Foreign government loans
  • Foreign loans raised under guarantees of the Government of the Republic of Belarus
  • Loans of banks of the Republic of Belarus, issued under the guarantees of the Government of the Republic of Belarus
  • Credits of the banks of the Republic of Belarus issued under the guarantees of the regional and Minsk city executive committees
  • Other sources
  • Funds allocated for financing forest management

@jpmckinney
Copy link
Member Author

Seems like we might use a pattern like financeType and financeTypeDetails.

@jpmckinney jpmckinney changed the title Finance: Generalizing for use outside PPPs? Finance: Generalizing for use outside PPPs Mar 13, 2019
@jpmckinney jpmckinney changed the title Finance: Generalizing for use outside PPPs Finance: Alternatives for use outside PPPs Mar 13, 2019
@yolile
Copy link
Member

yolile commented Apr 12, 2021

We should also add an example of how to use the extension for a process outside PPPs and in the planning section. (CRM-7129)

Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Labels
Community Relates to a regular extension
Projects
None yet
Development

No branches or pull requests

3 participants