Node.js Foundation User Feedback Meeting 2018-06-08: Tooling Feedback Session

[boneskull]

Time

Friday, June 8th 2018, 16:00 UTC (4:00 PM), or in your local time

Agenda

We will gather user feedback from Tooling group. For this session, I've selected a few "hot-button" issues from #59 which we will discuss:

• Cross-platform problems (fs, child_process)
• fs is missing some key operations (rimraf, mkdirp, fs-extra, etc.)
• Node.js startup time

Otherwise, anything goes along these topics:

• What's great about writing CLI tools in Node.js?
• What could be better about writing CLI tools in Node.js?
• What upcoming features will have an impact on your tooling work?

We'll try to give everyone a chance to be heard, but time is limited! Discussion points may also be added to #59, if you can't make the meeting.

Invited

• Anyone working in Node.js CLI tooling who wants to provide feedback
• Anyone who attended the last Tooling session
• User feedback team members (@nodejs/user-feedback)

Joining the meeting

• Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/168395218
• YouTube Live: https://youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live

Definitions

For our purposes, Tooling can be considered "command-line programs written in Node.js". Examples include tools which:

• build websites (e.g. Webpack, browserify)
• compile to/from JS (e.g. Babel, TypeScript)
• run test or static code checks (e.g. Mocha, ESLint)
• scaffold stuff (e.g. EmberCLI, create-react-app, Yeoman)
• run tasks (e.g. Grunt, Gulp)
• manage packages (e.g. npm, yarn)

and include:

• plugin ecosystem around any of the above
• libraries often consumed by CLI programs (e.g. chalk, yargs)

[boneskull]

@dshaw or @bnb Could you please provide video links?

[boneskull]

@dshaw, @bnb, @mhdawson Is it possible to have someone record minutes or take notes?

[mhdawson]

Link for the zoom meeting: https://zoom.us/j/168395218

[mhdawson]

In terms of minutes, we can create a google doc. It works best to have a few people helping to capture what is being discussed, we'll also record the session as well.

[boneskull]

@mhdawson @dshaw @bnb Do we have a YouTube link?

[mhdawson]

Just a sec, pulling the standard link from another issue

[mhdawson]

We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

[bnb]

Did the meeting die? Looks like we may have a conflict with Mentorship :/

[dshaw]

@bnb No mentorship meeting at this time. Folks are logged on.

[dshaw]

Might be your local calendar.

[bnb]

@dshaw can you send the link again? It's telling me I need to be signed in to start the meeting 🤔

[dshaw]

https://zoom.us/j/168395218

[mhdawson]

Should be starting in around 3-5 minutes.

[bnb]

Not working :/

[dshaw]

@mhdawson Suggests logging out

[dshaw]

I keep getting logged out. @bnb log in on personal account.