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Entire JavaScript course is too hard #32682

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JakeSeppola opened this issue Mar 13, 2024 · 2 comments
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Entire JavaScript course is too hard #32682

JakeSeppola opened this issue Mar 13, 2024 · 2 comments
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@JakeSeppola
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https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/JavaScript/Building_blocks/Return_values

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The whole course is too hard and too fast.

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I expected a course that made learning JavaScript from scratch much easier. Please explain in more detail.

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@JakeSeppola JakeSeppola added the needs triage Triage needed by staff and/or partners. Automatically applied when an issue is opened. label Mar 13, 2024
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Hi @JakeSeppola, thanks for getting in touch with us. I'm Chris, and I originally wrote most of the MDN Learning Area JavaScript courses (they have been edited a bit since then, but that's the nature of MDN).

I tried hard to write something that is more beginner-friendly than the other content on MDN (the JavaScript reference, etc.), and I thought for the most part I succeeded, which makes me feel sad that you are having trouble with it.

Fixing the issues you experienced won't be a quick process, but I'd like to ask you a few questions to help identify what we can do to make things better.

  1. Are you having problems with the particular page you linked to, or do you just feel that the whole course in general is too hard and fast?
  2. Can you give me any specific examples of sections that you found were missing explanations?
  3. What was missing? What kind of questions did you find you were asking yourself about what was missing?
  4. Have you tried learning JavaScript from other resources? What resources did you find that worked better for you? If you haven't looked at any others or are not sure, I could give you some examples to try.

I could ask a lot more questions, but I'll leave it there for now so the list doesn't get too overwhelming. If the answer to any of the questions is "I don't know", then that is fine.

Thanks again for reaching out to us.

@JakeSeppola
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I feel like the whole course is too hard and fast, especially JavaScript Building Blocks.
The Active Learning and Test Your Skills went too far beyond what was covered in the material.
I was asking "how do I get a certain result with specific code".
I've tried a few other resources but MDN is actually the best I could find. MDN JavaScript is a great course and I am continuing with it, its just that I find I am referencing the answers(the answers and solutions should be there, they're helpful) more than I am solving the code myself. The HTML and CSS courses were much easier to apply outside of the course on my own projects because they went over specific parts of the code sometimes with graphics, at some points explaining what specific characters did; it also included more repetition. I would try to make sure that the course content is presented and organized in way that Active Learning and Test Your Skills can be made to correspond directly with content that has been taught. The JavaScript course in its current state feels more like a side-activity for experienced coders, when it should feel like an education for beginners who have only done HTML and CSS. The JavaScript course doesn't need a major overhaul, I would just be pleased to see it more geared towards people with less experience. Thanks so much for replying, its good to see some ads on the course to support your work.

@JakeSeppola JakeSeppola reopened this Mar 14, 2024
@bsmth bsmth added reader feedback General feedback on content from MDN readers and removed needs triage Triage needed by staff and/or partners. Automatically applied when an issue is opened. labels Mar 21, 2024
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