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Uppercase Ø middle bar subtracts from the shape #6

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GresiRoost opened this issue Dec 3, 2021 · 6 comments
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Uppercase Ø middle bar subtracts from the shape #6

GresiRoost opened this issue Dec 3, 2021 · 6 comments

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@GresiRoost
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Uppercase Ø (from the Scandinavian additions to the alphabet) seems to have subtractive mode set on the middle bar.

Have a look:
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Nunito+Sans?preview.text=%C3%98&preview.text_type=custom

@kenmcd
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kenmcd commented Dec 3, 2021

What operating system and browser are you using?
Looks fine in Firefox on Win 10.
But the static fonts still have an overlap present on that character that should not be there..
And in some apps, such as Safari on Mac, this may cause a display issue.
Can you post a screenshot?

@GresiRoost
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This is Firefox on macOS Catalina
Screenshot 2021-12-06 at 10 42 19
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@kenmcd
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kenmcd commented Dec 6, 2021

Yes, that appears to be the known overlap issue.
Those overlaps should have been removed in the static fonts.
Someone from Google Fonts would have to address this.
I think @RosaWagner is the GF person to get this into the proper cue.

Work-arounds for right now ...
Are you trying to use those fonts on a web page?
Or in a desktop application?
On the desktop this is usually not an issue, but it does sometimes happen.
The quickest desktop solution is to convert the fonts to OpenType-PS (OTF).
The overlaps would be gone and the fonts should just work.
If you are trying to use the fonts online, it would be a bit more complicated.
You would need to self-host the fonts and create new versions of the fonts without the overlaps.
Which will require using a font editor to remove the overlaps and re-export the fonts.

@GresiRoost
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Thank you for the information.
I noticed the issue on a completely random Scandinavian website.
I got curious and I realized that I had used the font before - just for an english language website.
I'll probably use the font again in the future. Thanks for your nice work.

Just wanted to let you know of the issue in case you didn't know of it :-)

@kenmcd
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kenmcd commented Dec 7, 2021

I found an explanation by @RosaWagner in another thread.
google/fonts#4076 (comment)
Based on that post it appears that the GF fonts will not be changed, but that the applications are expected to properly handle the fonts as they are properly constructed.
So your only work-around to work with your app is to self-host fonts which have had the overlaps removed.

@RosaWagner
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So yes there is this with Catalina, cf google/fonts#2602. Although it could be that contour directions are not correct and we will check to be sure. Another workaround is to update your OS for better variable font support :)

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