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Xingchi-Media opened this issue Oct 9, 2022 · 161 comments
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[DataCap Application] <Xingchi-Media> - [ 1 / 10 ] #1051

Xingchi-Media opened this issue Oct 9, 2022 · 161 comments

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@Xingchi-Media
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Xingchi-Media commented Oct 9, 2022

Large Dataset Notary Application

To apply for DataCap to onboard your dataset to Filecoin, please fill out the following.

Core Information

  • Organization Name: Xingchi-Media
  • Website / Social Media:http://www.xcmedia.cn/#/
  • Total amount of DataCap being requested (between 500 TiB and 5 PiB):5PiB
  • Weekly allocation of DataCap requested (usually between 1-100TiB):200TiB
  • On-chain address for first allocation:f1vnfbc3siofrens2inl66gjzevqrto5wlsray6gy

Please respond to the questions below by replacing the text saying "Please answer here". Include as much detail as you can in your answer.

Project details

Share a brief history of your project and organization.

Founded in 2013, it is a full process content production service company for program development and production. The core creative team has more than 10 years of experience in the industry, and has many in-depth project cooperation with Korean, British, American and other program producers. It provides content planning, model development, director, screenwriter, post production and other services for more than 30 domestic top variety shows every year. In 2019, the business income will exceed 200 million yuan, and the number of production personnel will exceed 200.
Founded in 2016, Xingchi College is a training and education institution for film and television post production professionals,
With rich post production experience, massive original program materials, and elaborate curriculum system design,
To provide students with a professional and practical film and television production education system,
At present, it has delivered more than 800 professional film and television production personnel to major satellite TV and TV program production companies.

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What is the primary source of funding for this project?

Own enterprise funds.

What other projects/ecosystem stakeholders is this project associated with?

No.

Use-case details

Describe the data being stored onto Filecoin

Dataset from
More than 200 TV variety shows produced by us since 2013.
Mainly various variety show video materials produced by us under commercial authorization.

Where was the data in this dataset sourced from?

More than 200 TV variety shows produced by us since 2013.
Including 115 cooperation projects with TV stations and 87 cooperation projects with network platforms
Including: variety show post production; Stage multimedia design; Logo design; Production of variety show special effects; Variety program title and ending design; Program packaging design materials, etc

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Can you share a sample of the data? A link to a file, an image, a table, etc., are good ways to do this.

Project Dataset
Data sets of 150 variety show projects completed by us since 2013。
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G22bmWv5rKlx83OQIIG2pcTJEnG2EUsFi28xZ1WQvnU/edit?usp=sharing

Confirm that this is a public dataset that can be retrieved by anyone on the Network (i.e., no specific permissions or access rights are required to view the data).

Yes, the dataset is open worldwide.

What is the expected retrieval frequency for this data?

Once a year, mainly for disaster recovery.

For how long do you plan to keep this dataset stored on Filecoin?

Want permanent storage.

DataCap allocation plan

In which geographies (countries, regions) do you plan on making storage deals?

There is no regional restriction. 

How will you be distributing your data to storage providers? Is there an offline data transfer process?

Offline transmission
Because the dataset is very large, we only support offline transmission.

How do you plan on choosing the storage providers with whom you will be making deals? This should include a plan to ensure the data is retrievable in the future both by you and others.

The technical service providers we are currently communicating with are:
“New web group” 
“Chuangshi IPFS”
“SXX”
“Great heat”
“F3”
“FrogHub”
“Chain up Cloud”
“Zhongshang Cloud”
“NDLabs”
“Proton Cloud”
“Waterdrop Cloud”
“Zhongheyi”
“Lucky Technology”
“Jiu Zhou Cloud”
“Time-space technology”
“ChengXin Cloud”
“HuiCun IPFS”

In addition, I also contacted Jack fan of BigD exchange, hoping to find more SPs through BDE to provide us with storage.
If any storage service provider wants to provide us with storage data, you can send an email to [email protected]
Please attach your location, node number and the capacity you want to store.

How will you be distributing deals across storage providers?

No more than 5% of the total limit per SP.

Do you have the resources/funding to start making deals as soon as you receive DataCap? What support from the community would help you onboard onto Filecoin?

Yes, we already prepared enough funding for making deals.
In addition, the Filecoin Foundation will give us some help.
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Thanks for your request!
❗ We have found some problems in the information provided.
We could not find your Filecoin address in the information provided
We could not find any Region in the information provided

Please, take a look at the request and edit the body of the issue providing all the required information.

@large-datacap-requests
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Thanks for your request!

Heads up, you’re requesting more than the typical weekly onboarding rate of DataCap!

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Thanks for your request!
Everything looks good. 👌

A Governance Team member will review the information provided and contact you back pretty soon.

@Xingchi-Media
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Xingchi-Media commented Oct 9, 2022

Question supplement

  1. Why do we need 50PIB DataCap?

Since 2013, we have completed the production of more than 200 variety shows.
The data set of each project is about 20TiB~70TiB.
200 * 20TiB~70TiB ≈ 4000TiB ~ 14000TiB
Median calculation
200 * 45 TiB = 9000TiB
We plan to make 6 replicas in the world, so we need 50PiB quota.
9000TIB * 6 = 54000TiB

And according to our current business situation, the new increment of our dataset every quarter is 500TIB

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  1. More about our company

Baidu Encyclopedia
https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%8C%97%E4%BA%AC%E4%B8%AD%E8%A7%86%E6%98%9F%E9%A9%B0%E6%96%87%E5%8C%96%E4%BC%A0%E5%AA%92%E6%9C%89%E9%99%90%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8/18148987#/

Sina Weibo
https://weibo.com/n/%E6%98%9F%E9%A9%B0%E4%BC%A0%E5%AA%92?from=feed&loc=at#/

Video of enterprise introduction
https://www.ixigua.com/6631033963269849613?logTag=81364ca7ebf94b4a2421#/
https://www.ixigua.com/6631371022274658819?logTag=1178b44346000ec14ef4#/

Enterprise introduction PPT
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1czToPLnGR6nI3MNFm5cboI6Vm2UvWzRo/view?usp=sharing

  1. About copyright

All stored data sets are produced by XC media, and we have a full set of compliant license contracts with the commercial copyright owners.
We have the responsibility and obligation to provide commercial copyright owners with data set storage services and provide them at any time when they need them.

4.Existing storage scheme of dataset

Data sets are currently stored in our self built enterprise IT machine rooms,
And the distributed storage scheme is used for security redundancy.Storage mode of xsan.
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@Carohere
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Carohere commented Oct 18, 2022

Hi @Xingchi-Media, I see you have a total of ten applications open. It will be difficult for community members to keep up with the comments under so many issues. I think it would be effective if you could submit a proposal in the governance channel to bring together everyone's opinions.

Second, as far as I know many of the shows you listed are sponsored by China Central Television, which is a nation-owned channel controlled by CCP. There are also many other programs sponsored by states, such as Hunan Broadcasting System which is a local government-owned media. I'm not sure if your company actually owns these programs...

Last, Copyright is still an imperfect field in China, but I believe we can all agree that it is very important as well as licensing. I recommend the Trust and Transparency team and notaries in China who are more aware of local laws and regulations review this application carefully to ensure that no legal disputes will arise.

PS, here are some relevant information I found for reference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Central_Television
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunan_Broadcasting_System
http://www.npc.gov.cn/npc/c30834/202011/848e73f58d4e4c5b82f69d25d46048c6.shtml

@Xingchi-Media
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Hi @Carohere
Thank you for your attention and reply, because I am not familiar with Github and Filecoin's community governance tools.
I suggest that we can discuss any questions about Xc media in this application post. After all, I guided people to do so at the beginning.

Second, the issue of copyright
I understand your concern,
First of all, as the post producer of these variety shows, if there is a dispute about commercial copyright, XC Media will be the primary responsible person, and XC media will be required to bear all consequences and compensation. Therefore, we have made detailed communication and preparation in the area of commercial copyright, and we pay more attention to the issue of commercial copyright than anyone else.
We can promise and ensure that:

  1. All the content we upload is produced by XC media
  2. We have a complete commercial contract with the commercial copyright owner, and we have the responsibility and obligation to provide customers with data storage services.

@Carohere
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Thanks for the quick response @Xingchi-Media.

  • It may get confusing to have multiple conversations at one time under similar applications from your companies. A total of 50PB is very huge and I'm not sure if that's a good idea.
  • I'm curious about how the programs on national or state owned channels are funded. Did they hire your company for the production? Besides, as the programs of the nation/state direct-owned TV channels, is there any requirement for storage location?

@Xingchi-Media
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OK,Thank you for your advice. I will try to understand. @Carohere

Any variety show will have a production team and producers, who will solicit sponsorship and investment for the show.
This is true even for programs on national television stations.
Take National Treasure for example. At the end of his film, you can see the sponsor's advertisement.
We have a complete commercial cooperation contract with national television stations,They authorized and paid us for film and television post production.
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Because the stored data sets have been broadcast in TV stations, there is no limit to the storage area. Can be stored anywhere in the world.
Of course, if possible, we would prefer Beijing and Changsha, because our company and commercial copyright owner are located in these two places.
It will be more convenient for us
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@Carohere
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According to some research, i found that the investors who pay for the show production hold ownership. Paying the company implies that Xingchi is the provider of filming services. I'm still uncertain about the ownership. But I'm no notary so I won't be able to request the contract. Suggesting notaries and @raghavrmadya check it thoroughly while conducting due diligence. Appreciate your time! @Xingchi-Media

@Neal-fil
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Can you share the list of service providers that @Xingchi-Media have confirmed partnerships with, their geographic locations and nodes as well? Thank you.

@Xingchi-Media
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Hi @Neal-fil

The technical service providers we are currently communicating with are:
“New web group”
“Chuangshi IPFS”
“SXX”
“Great heat”
“F3”
“FrogHub”
“Chain up Cloud”
“Tianji studio”
“FireflyHZ”
“Zhongshang Cloud”
“NDLabs”
“Proton Cloud”
“Waterdrop Cloud”
“Zhongheyi”
“Lucky Technology”

Continuously updating
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In addition, I also contacted Jack fan of BigD exchange, hoping to find more SPs through BDE to provide us with storage.
If any storage service provider wants to provide us with storage data, you can send an email to [email protected]
Please attach your location, node number and the capacity you want to store.
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@Neal-fil
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Neal-fil commented Nov 1, 2022

Hi @Xingchi-Media,

  1. How many of these sps confirmed to join in this project? Please clearly specify the node ownership.

  2. All these nodes marked in yellow are not retrievable. Could you elaborate on it?

Thank you.

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@Xingchi-Media
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Hey @Neal-fil

  1. These SPs are still under communication and screening, and it is estimated that more than 50% of SPs will participate.When there is specific progress, we will update it again.
    Because there are certain legal risks in engaging in the blockchain industry in China,So to ensure the security of SPs, we will not bind SPs with Miner ID.
    We will publish Miner ID list independently,As listed above.

2.Many Miners do not support fast retrieval because they have not participated in Filplus before and have not stored DCs. we Because we are still in the early stage of preparation, we are currently in contact with intentional SPs. When it is determined that XCmedia starts to store data in Filecoin,will urge each Miner ID to comply with Fil plus regulations.
Including a series of questions about fast retrieval, storage ratio of each node, etc
At the same time, we are also looking for some SPs for the community. As you can see, SPs are still being updated.

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Neal-fil commented Nov 1, 2022

@raghavrmadya FYI f01859603, f01660795, f01923787 and many other nodes stored mostly DC. I propose a hold off on this application until Xingchi Media finalizes the list of collaborating SPs.

@Xingchi-Media
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Thank you @Neal-fil
Good advice

Because we are not SPs, we cannot control the behavior of nodes. When we communicated and checked, all this was normal.

We re communicated with SPs and required constraints, and some SPs chose to quit. Because they were moving the computer room recently, they could not support us to store data in Filecoin in time.
We re established the list of SPs according to the latest situation.

When Fil plus+is loaded, we will irregularly check whether the SPs we cooperate with meet the requirements of Filplus every day. The storage proportion of each node will not exceed 5% of the total.
If there is any violation, we will immediately terminate the cooperation with this SP.
Welcome the supervision and inspection of Fil community.
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@Xingchi-Media
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Update Tips
Email has been updated, please send your intention email to our CEO's email:
[email protected]
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If any storage service provider wants to provide us with storage data, you can send an email to [email protected]
Please attach your location, Miner ID and the capacity you want to store.

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f01923786/f01923787/f01859603/f01660795/f01128206,These nodes belong to me and can provide node private key authentication.

@Xingchi-Media
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First,
In the first communication with SPs, the technical department of Fsector did plan to participate in the DC storage of XC media.
After Neal reminded us yesterday, we thought Neal's suggestion was very good, so we had a second communication with interested SPs to confirm that some SPs announced their withdrawal, we removed them from the list, and released the latest node information. Earlier today, we updated the latest list, which you can see from the record.
We just got in touch with the technical department of Fsector and checked the history of "Fsector". There are some misunderstandings.
We were contacted by the technical department of Fsector. During this process, the business department of Fsector did not know that they had reached an initial cooperation intention with us. That's why the business department of Fsector questioned us. Now the misunderstanding has been lifted.

This event also sounded an alarm for us. This may be a problem that every client will encounter when auditing SPs.
How to verify that what SPs say is true?
We subsequently decided to adopt the following audit methods:

  1. SPs first provide Miner ID
  2. We conduct the first audit. If the audit is passed
  3. We will ask SPs to use the Miner ID (Worker/Owner) to send a transfer transaction to our DC wallet address as a node holding verification
  4. If the transfer transaction is successfully sent, it is determined that the node is owned by SPs
    secondly

As for the DC transaction mentioned, we are completely unaware of it and said that we are innocent.
Before applying for Fil Plus+, Xc media was a traditional media company. We produced many well-known variety shows.
This is the first time we learned about Filecoin and Fil Plus+through friends.
The purpose of joining Filecoin is to help us back up enterprise data through Filecoin.
While applying for Fil plus, we are also applying for Fil plus E.
We will cooperate with the governance team to complete the KYC/KYB enterprise certification audit.
At the same time, our CEO is also helping to promote the storage of data in Filecoin. If SPs are interested in providing us with data storage services, you can take a look at this message.

If any storage service provider wants to provide us with storage data, you can send an email to
[email protected]
Please attach your location, Miner ID and the capacity you want to store.

We welcome inspections and queries from the Fil community, which will help Filecoin better

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DataCap and CID Checker Report Summary1

Retrieval Statistics

  • Overall Graphsync retrieval success rate: 46.59%
  • Overall HTTP retrieval success rate: 0.00%
  • Overall Bitswap retrieval success rate: 0.00%

Storage Provider Distribution

✔️ Storage provider distribution looks healthy.

Deal Data Replication

⚠️ 34.81% of deals are for data replicated across less than 4 storage providers.

Deal Data Shared with other Clients2

✔️ No CID sharing has been observed.

Full report

Click here to view the CID Checker report.
Click here to view the Retrieval Dashboard.
Click here to view the Retrieval report.

Footnotes

  1. To manually trigger this report, add a comment with text checker:manualTrigger

  2. To manually trigger this report with deals from other related addresses, add a comment with text checker:manualTrigger <other_address_1> <other_address_2> ...

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No CID duplication was found.
Good retrieval rate.
Willing to support.

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Request Approved

Your Datacap Allocation Request has been approved by the Notary

Message sent to Filecoin Network

bafy2bzacea3wmjtjg6wipuf22ibpau56m3x3n242zp72dngwrtragyre64vko

Address

f1vnfbc3siofrens2inl66gjzevqrto5wlsray6gy

Datacap Allocated

800.00TiB

Signer Address

f1nwjsd2mc6hu4qrwnmd6ukrfkuu4h5fhs7u3exii

Id

9f17d40b-0d1d-4ad6-9c99-206d33e6a3d8

You can check the status of the message here: https://filfox.info/en/message/bafy2bzacea3wmjtjg6wipuf22ibpau56m3x3n242zp72dngwrtragyre64vko

@cryptowhizzard
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Hello,

I have asked this multiple times but don't get an answer.

I downloaded some of your data. What is the data we are looking at here?

http://datasetcreators.com/downloadedcarfiles/1051-f01982219-f02239698-47884932-baga6ea4seaqkndhftwbgchnetdrlfimeu4wk2cz43w543ne26ucbfcbbcn2i4ka/

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Disputed. See : #1052 (comment)

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DataCap Allocation requested

Request number 8

Multisig Notary address

f02049625

Client address

f1vnfbc3siofrens2inl66gjzevqrto5wlsray6gy

DataCap allocation requested

800TiB

Id

3d45de7a-d3ad-4d19-bf7a-31822e5d392d

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Stats & Info for DataCap Allocation

Multisig Notary address

f02049625

Client address

f1vnfbc3siofrens2inl66gjzevqrto5wlsray6gy

Rule to calculate the allocation request amount

400% of weekly dc amount requested

DataCap allocation requested

800TiB

Total DataCap granted for client so far

7.275957614183434e+80YiB

Datacap to be granted to reach the total amount requested by the client (5PiB)

7.275957614183434e+80YiB

Stats

Number of deals Number of storage providers Previous DC Allocated Top provider Remaining DC
128116 10 800TiB 31.47 26.90TiB

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No response from the client. Closing application and flagging for DC removal

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Thanks for your request!
❗ We have found some problems in the information provided.
We could not find Website / Social Media field in the information provided
We could not find Total amount of DataCap being requested (between 500 TiB and 5 PiB) field in the information provided
We could not find Weekly allocation of DataCap requested (usually between 1-100TiB) field in the information provided
We could not find On-chain address for first allocation field in the information provided
We could not find Data Type of Application field in the information provided

Please, take a look at the request and edit the body of the issue providing all the required information.

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