From 119521bdbd0bc7182e69c905aef7927b0e74ae68 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: David Blue Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 13:20:28 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] #228 --- drafts/Telegram.md | 4 +++- notes/Notes-Telegram.md | 2 ++ 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/drafts/Telegram.md b/drafts/Telegram.md index 2810e128..f0559722 100644 --- a/drafts/Telegram.md +++ b/drafts/Telegram.md @@ -58,9 +58,11 @@ Telegram message IDs are purely chronological from their channel/group chat’s ## “”””Privacy”””” -One of my primary justifications for the time spent in composing this Post has to do with the immediately-available discourse surrounding Telegram on the web, which is wholly incomplete, at best. The main obstruction, from my perspective, is the subject of **encryption**. Even within publications as legitimate and frankly out-of-scope as *Forbes*, one can find an article like my chosen example, from February of this year, entitled "[No, Don’t Quit WhatsApp To Use Telegram Instead—Here’s Why](https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/02/13/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-instead-of-whatsapp-use-signal-or-apple-imessage)." It was written to address a mass exodus of users from WhatsApp +One of my primary justifications for the time spent in composing this Post has to do with the immediately-available discourse surrounding Telegram on the web, which is wholly incomplete, at best. The main obstruction, from my perspective, is the subject of **encryption**. Even within publications as legitimate and frankly out-of-scope as *Forbes*, one can find an article like my chosen example, from February of this year, entitled "[No, Don’t Quit WhatsApp To Use Telegram Instead—Here’s Why](https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/02/13/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-instead-of-whatsapp-use-signal-or-apple-imessage)." It was written to address a mass "[exodus](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jan/24/whatsapp-loses-millions-of-users-after-terms-update)" of users from WhatsApp after [a grandiose misunderstanding](https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/12/22226792/whatsapp-privacy-policy-response-signal-telegram-controversy-clarification)(?) of its Privacy Policy caused a noisy controversy ([catalyzed by Idiot Melon, himself](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1347165127036977153).) I've been unable to find the added/altered text, itself, in my brief reading, but it's not as if the happening wasn't thoroughly covered elsewhere. It's not that I doubt the expertise of "Cybersecurity Expert Zak Doffman" when he notes "Telegram’s cloud-based architecture is a serious risk when compared to the end-to-end default encryption deployed by Signal and WhatsApp, which also uses Signal’s protocol," nor that I do not believe the following details are as true as truth gets: +> All group messages on Telegram are only encrypted between your device and Telegram’s cloud, your message history is stored on Telegram’s cloud, and if you ([unwisely](https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/01/30/stop-using-this-dangerous-whatsapp-setting-on-your-apple-iphone-or-google-android-phone/)) transfer your WhatsApp chat history to Telegram, then this is also stored on its cloud. Make you sure understand that Telegram has the decryption keys to any of your data that you store on its cloud... +To this argument and the many variations of it present in Telegram for iOS' [App Store reviews](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/telegram-messenger/id686449807), [obscure German PeerTube servers](https://tube.tchncs.de/w/2d958ef9-1be4-477c-bc13-852ec6391487), and even within [public chats on Telegram, itself](https://t.me/crackheadlegit/409), my formal response for the record is: *Okay! Affirmative! Received and understood!* I must acknowledge - given my own introduction to the service, narrated above - that Telegram's brand is vaguely associated with privacy and security. I can see that the second of nine duckies in the Ducky Grid on the root of telegram.org sits above the subhead "**Private**" and a caption with the following claim: "Telegram messages are heavily encrypted and can self-destruct." ![Telegram Green](https://i.snap.as/e2g09wl3.png) diff --git a/notes/Notes-Telegram.md b/notes/Notes-Telegram.md index 958b176b..4db6a33b 100644 --- a/notes/Notes-Telegram.md +++ b/notes/Notes-Telegram.md @@ -35,6 +35,8 @@ - [ ] [No, Don’t Quit WhatsApp To Use Telegram Instead—Here’s Why](https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/02/13/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-instead-of-whatsapp-use-signal-or-apple-imessage) | *Forbes* - [ ] [Telegram, Signal Are No Match for WhatsApp and Facebook's Network Effects](https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-09-02/telegram-signal-are-no-match-for-whatsapp-and-facebook-s-network-effects) | *Bloomberg* - [ ] [Telegram - Review 2021 - PCMag UK](https://uk.pcmag.com/iphone-apps/76144/telegram-messenger-for-iphone-review) +- [ ] [Mandatory WhatsApp Privacy Policy Update Allows User Data to be Shared With Facebook - MacRumors](https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/06/whatsapp-privacy-policy-data-sharing-facebook/) +- [ ] [WhatsApp clarifies privacy practices after surge in Signal and Telegram users - The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/12/22226792/whatsapp-privacy-policy-response-signal-telegram-controversy-clarification) ## Themes * [Tweetbot 6 Pro](https://t.me/addtheme/Tweetbot6Pro)